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vilmart grand cellie disgorgement - 12/9/2013 7:32:26 AM

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Disgorgement date is embossed in numerals on lower right of front label. Does anyone have experience reading these? Do we think it follows European convention of day before month or visa versa?

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RE: vilmart grand cellie disgorgement - 12/9/2013 7:46:33 AM

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I think most dates are given with day then month. Even in the Army, this is how things are always written, its a NATO standard, so I would bet you are correct in you assumption about EU standards.

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RE: vilmart grand cellie disgorgement - 12/9/2013 8:01:45 AM

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/dining/reviews/champagnes-disgorgement-dates-provoke-debate.html?_r=1&ref=dining

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RE: vilmart grand cellie disgorgement - 12/9/2013 8:16:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kcbrian

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/dining/reviews/champagnes-disgorgement-dates-provoke-debate.html?_r=1&ref=dining

Who knew our military training could be so valuable.

Nice article, but I think that champagne will never buckle to any perceived consumer pressure as the region sells all of its wine, as there is an over demand for their product. I do like disgorgement dates, but think we will never see the NV go away without significant price increases for the NV with better base years, and that doesn't necessarily mean the are of better quality at all. There is a reason the is a chef du cave, and that is they know what they are doing when they release the wines. they have been trained and learned to put out a product that is consistent with a houses perceived style. This may not be as important to the smaller grower houses, but tradition is a huge thin to the bigger and older major marques. It has kept demand for their product as people generally know if they are fans of Veuve Clicquot (Which I am one), or they stick with wines from Piper-Hiedsieck, (I appreciated the style P-H puts onto the market, but its not my favorite.) Champagne has long surrounded itself in mystery and will most likely continue to do so as long as they are able. No other region has put as much into litigation, and marketing with the possible exception on marketing in Bordeaux.

Great article, and a nice find Brian.

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RE: vilmart grand cellier disgorgement - 12/21/2013 9:20:48 PM

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Does your code have three numbers? Mine shows 1 12 11, but I was thinking the first character might be an "L" for lot number. I don't know why they would get so specific to include date, in addition to month and year. Any write-up I see about Vilmart Grand Cellier refers to a month and year of disgorgement, never a date. I was guessing that my code meant lot 2012 November.

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RE: vilmart grand cellier disgorgement - 12/21/2013 11:21:01 PM

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The first digit is an L followed by the month and year. Is the disgorgement date on the front label as opposed to the space on the back label that says disgorgement date being blank? This is common for Vilmart. I don't know why, but several people that have posted recent tasting notes have had their bottles have the number on the front label as well. Mine have the L 12 12 on the front label in red.

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