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How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 12:42:19 PM   
Ibetian

 

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Status: offline 		If you look at the report summarizing your cellar by vintage, it will give you an average for your cellar. For me, it’s 2010.5, so my average bottle is almost 14 years old. That’s seems pretty old, and would be if my cellar wasn’t full of top Bordeaux and some Burgs that take forever to reach maturity (much like myself!😉). I feel like I still have a “young” cellar.

What’s your average bottle age? Does it feel young, old or about right to you? Does the composition of bottles influence your perception?

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RE: How Old iIs Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 1:37:53 PM   
ChrisinCowiche

 

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Seems about right to me, and for most of my cellar 7-10 years old seems like the good drinking window. I do have many bottles 10-15 years old, and make it an unwritten priorit to pull some of thos when I go "shopping" in my cellar, but I also like checking in on new purcheses that may be only 3-5 years past vintage.

This is mostly red wine talk for me, and my cellar is weighted heavily ~88% to Reds.

White wines, which we are drinking more lately, usually only last 3-5 years past vintage. I need to sort that way first and see.

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RE: How Old iIs Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 1:42:21 PM   
ChrisinCowiche

 

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Status: offline 		Average Vintage 2016.7 Reds Only

Average Vintage 2021.0 Whites

This is what I expected, except whites seem older. I do have 3-4 cases of new release 2023 vintage whites that are technically pending, I just haven't added them to CT yet. Those will push that average age closer to 2021.5

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RE: How Old iIs Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 2:37:51 PM   
sastewart

 

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From: Greater Nashville
Status: offline 		All wines about 1,700 bottles average vintage 2014.0 (including maybe 150 daily drinkers)
Red wines about 1,450 bottles average vintage 2013.6
White wines about 250 bottles average vintage 2017.0 (must be skewed a bit by some older dessert wines)

I believe my cellar is relatively young but nicely balanced given our drinking habits and cellar composition. Of course in the perfect world I would still have a few more pre 2000 Bordeaux, Burgundy and Nebbiolo!

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 5:20:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Average vintage all: 2015.8 1,534 bottles
Ave vintage red only: 2016.2 1,210 bottles
Ave vintage white only: 2017.8. 191 bottles
Thinking my lower cellar vintage is due to some VP’s, champers, and a few older rieslings.

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 6:21:46 PM   
khmark7

 

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Lots of older Bordeaux, Rhone & Burgundy.

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 6:55:48 PM   
mclancy10006

 

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ORIGINAL: khmark7

2012.5

Lots of older Bordeaux, Rhone & Burgundy.

That is apparently very close to the right answer.

Total Bottles: 1,690 /Avg. Vintage: 2012.9

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 8:35:17 PM   
skifree

 

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 9:05:20 PM   
jmc167

 

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Status: offline 		Total Bottles: 2,203 / Avg. Vintage: 2017.0

Feels about right if not surprising, since I only started the collection in 2016

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 9:16:29 PM   
Blue Shorts

 

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Status: offline 		Avg. Vintage: 2015.8 Looks to be about what everyone else has.

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 9:27:57 PM   
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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/19/2024 11:23:19 PM   
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a little lower than expected. 2009.6



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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/20/2024 7:35:45 AM   
BobInNH

 

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Status: offline 		Having just started getting serious a couple of years ago my average vintage is 2019.

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/20/2024 12:00:01 PM   
ROEL

 

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/20/2024 12:28:46 PM   
DoubleD1969

 

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From: New Jersey
Status: offline 		Median: 2005. Close to half of my bottles now are from that vintage.


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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/20/2024 1:14:38 PM   
dad300

 

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Status: offline 		2019 for me as well.. as Bob said just started getting serious a few years ago..
also drank down the old stuff as we prepared to make the move from TN back to Maine..

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/20/2024 1:48:01 PM   
davo22

 

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From: Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
Status: offline 		2,492 bottles, Average Vintage 2015.9. Vintage with most bottles 2015 - 301. Oldest bottles - 2 1995's.

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/22/2024 1:08:28 AM   
RedRedMoreRed

 

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Status: offline 		Mean: 2014.2
Median: 2009
Mode: 2016

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/22/2024 12:01:26 PM   
daviladc

 

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Avg. Vintage: 2014.4

This is really interesting!

Our cellar is only at 2014.4 because we started buying back vintage wines and cancelled 99% wine club memberships over the past few years.

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/22/2024 1:37:44 PM   
Ibetian

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedRedMoreRed

Mean: 2014.2
Median: 2009
Mode: 2016


Interesting distribution. Lots of older bottles combined with some good wines from recent vintages?

I didn’t mention it in my original post, but overall cellar age is probably a less useful metric than years supply with drink starting 2024 or earlier. And for longer term planning, how many wines will enter their drinking window in 2025 relative to consumption in 2024? My cellar has a shortage of really mature bottles (yeah, I could hit auctions, but I already have too much wine.), but I have plenty in early drinking windows and looking at consumption versus new wines entering drinking window I’m good into my 80s. Assuming consumption dips a bit as we get older, I’ll likely hit my personal drink by date before my last bottle does…


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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/22/2024 1:55:06 PM   
pdhall

 

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/22/2024 3:16:13 PM   
bretrooks

 

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From: San Luis Obispo, CA
Status: offline 		Avg. Vintage: 2016.2

2015.7 for reds
2016.5 for whites - much older than I expected...but it makes sense when I consider that some of our relatively few whites (~20% of cellar) are weighted by a few Rieslings at ages 10-25 and a handful of 2007/9 Sauternes.

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/24/2024 9:01:57 AM   
wicozani

 

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Status: offline 		Red, 1,694 bottles, avg vintage 2010.9
White, 230 bottles, avg vintage 2012.1

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/24/2024 9:28:49 AM   
Eduardo787

 

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Status: offline 		Where can I find that info ?

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/24/2024 9:43:23 AM   
Ibetian

 

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ORIGINAL: Eduardo787

Where can I find that info ?


Click or tap on quick links. Then show reports. Under My Cellar choose vintage. That gives you overall average. Under preselect options click type. That will give you results by color.

That’s how I do it using website on my iPad. Not sure how to do it on new or old mobile app.

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/24/2024 2:09:32 PM   
Eduardo787

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks! Averga vintage 2015.9

Most wines from a vintage

2019
2018
2010
2005

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/24/2024 5:28:51 PM   
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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/24/2024 9:06:55 PM   
pclin

 

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/25/2024 10:43:51 AM   
recotte

 

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Status: offline 		Overall: 2014.4

Red: 2014.0
White: 2015.7

I was a little surprised by the white average, until I drilled down; older Riesling and some sparklers are bringing it down.

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RE: How Old Is Your Average Wine? - 4/25/2024 1:38:55 PM   
eyewino

 

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From: Northern Iowa
Status: offline 		Red 2016.0
White 2016.2 (We have quite a bit of Riesling set aside)
Rose 2021.4

Apparently, I need to either age quite a bit of my cellar, or purchase some older bottles.

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