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CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll


No
  44% (25)
Yes - must join CT forum *before* the CT SS 2012 thread is started
  55% (31)


Total Votes : 56
(last vote on : 10/4/2012 2:22:23 PM)
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CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 4:33:24 AM   
grafstrb

 

Posts: 8837
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Status: offline 		Please cast a vote *only if* you plan on participating in this year's CT SS (Secret Santa).

The poll question is: Should there be any kind of "eligibility requirement" for participation in CT SS?"

This question is being discussed in this thread here.

Based on the conversation in that thread, it appears we've reduced the question to two possible answers, and it is those two answers that comprise the poll options in this thread:
1. The "No" option means anyone can participate, regardless of when they joined the forum. This means that someone who joins the forum *after* the official CT SS 2012 thread is started will be allowed to participate in this year's CT SS, provided they sign-up for the CT SS event by the stated deadline (which still has not been announced, btw).

2. The "Yes - must join CT forum *before* the CT SS 2012 thread is started" option means that anyone who joins the CT forum (not the CT main site) before the official CT SS 2012 thread is started will be allowed to participate in this year's CT SS, provided they sign-up for the CT SS event by the stated deadline, but those who join the forum *after* the official CT SS 2012 thread is started will have to wait until next year to participate in CT SS 2013.

Thank you for voting.

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 6:55:12 AM   
ChrisinCowiche

 

Posts: 7857
Joined: 12/16/2009
From: Cowiche, WA
Status: offline 		Well, so far I'm the only "No". When I was head elf someone joined the CT forum and their first post was "in" for CT SS. They since have become an active and contributing member of the forum, at off lines, and is making his own hooch now in Dallas.

Not sure really what the purpose is of creating ANY eligibility requirement. We've never had anyone reneg on their commitment in 3 years and over 200 participants.

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 7:27:06 AM   
musedir

 

Posts: 23499
Joined: 2/25/2010
From: At 2534ft in Asheville near Royal Pines
Status: offline 		Whoops! I voted no because I usually will not join any club that would have me as a member... But I really do think a participant in SS12 should be a card carrying CTer before they sign up. After all, membership has its privileges...

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 12:41:13 PM   
oskiwawa

 

Posts: 2258
Joined: 2/16/2008
From: Austin TX
Status: offline 		Since I do not think that many foks jump in at the last moment I am ok with either answer. That said, it is nice to either send to or receive from someone whose CT ID you have seen for awhile but never met. Speaking of that, is the CT Texas crowd going to be allowed to sit at the adult table this year and share with everyone else ?

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 1:00:38 PM   
grafstrb

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: oskiwawa

Since I do not think that many foks jump in at the last moment I am ok with either answer. That said, it is nice to either send to or receive from someone whose CT ID you have seen for awhile but never met. Speaking of that, is the CT Texas crowd going to be allowed to sit at the adult table this year and share with everyone else ?

To your last point; part of the "required initial disclosures" this year will be telling the Head Elf if you are, or are not, willing to take on the additional risk of shipping into TX and also if you are, or are not, willing to have your Secret Santa be from TX.

So, "Yeah," TX participants will not necessarily be swapping with other TX participants (random draw, however, might make it such that a TX resident does buy or receive from another TX resident).

< Message edited by grafstrb -- 9/12/2012 1:01:46 PM >

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 1:22:50 PM   
dsGris

 

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Joined: 8/31/2009
From: Portland, OR
Status: offline 		Isn't Texas a separate country yet?

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 1:24:24 PM   
musedir

 

Posts: 23499
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From: At 2534ft in Asheville near Royal Pines
Status: offline 		What I thought!

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 1:33:35 PM   
S1

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dsGris

Isn't Texas a separate country yet?

always has been
God bless The Republic of Texas!

I vote no restrictions

< Message edited by S1 -- 9/12/2012 1:34:09 PM >

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 1:35:23 PM   
GalvezGuy

 

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Status: offline 		It is a whole other part of this country. I think it is because Texas was an independent country born from an insurrection. Not many states are prouder of their state than Texans. I was not born here but after living here 23 years, I guess I am close to a Texan.

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 1:47:52 PM   
wineismylife

 

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Status: offline 		Well I was born here and I say to hell with all of you Yankees.




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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 2:02:11 PM   
grafstrb

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: S1


I vote no restrictions

The TX thing is not up to a vote. Each individual person will let the Head Elf know if they are comfortable dealing with the extra risks attendant to shipping into and out of TX.

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 2:05:45 PM   
markandsusanw

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: grafstrb


quote:

ORIGINAL: S1


I vote no restrictions

The TX thing is not up to a vote. Each individual person will let the Head Elf know if they are comfortable dealing with the extra risks attendant to shipping into and out of TX.


What extra risks?

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 2:12:35 PM   
grafstrb

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: markandsusanw


quote:

ORIGINAL: grafstrb


quote:

ORIGINAL: S1


I vote no restrictions

The TX thing is not up to a vote. Each individual person will let the Head Elf know if they are comfortable dealing with the extra risks attendant to shipping into and out of TX.


What extra risks?

I'll have to go back to last year's discussion to find out the details. Basically, "the authorities" are much more watchful re: shipment of alcohol out of and into the state, and the laws are enforced more strictly than other states. So, basically, trying to ship wine out of TX is much more difficult than trying to ship wine within TX; and, trying to ship wine into TX is much more difficult (or more likely to get confiscated) than shipping wine into other states. That's the basic gist of it, as I remember it. Maybe one of our TX forum members can fill us in on the details.


< Message edited by grafstrb -- 9/12/2012 2:13:48 PM >

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 2:30:46 PM   
champagneinhand

 

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From: Upstate New York, California born.
Status: offline 		I voted for option 2, just to make it easier for the head elves to coordinate. There hasn't been an official posting yet for the CT SS or does this count?

If your lurking, please sound off on the active user forum and just say "Hi!"

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 2:58:42 PM   
grafstrb

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: champagneinhand

I voted for option 2, just to make it easier for the head elves to coordinate. There hasn't been an official posting yet for the CT SS or does this count?

If your lurking, please sound off on the active user forum and just say "Hi!"

Nope. The Official thread will have the word "official" in it, and will contain the Marching Orders re: signing-up.

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 3:01:26 PM   
musedir

 

Posts: 23499
Joined: 2/25/2010
From: At 2534ft in Asheville near Royal Pines
Status: offline 		Ah... So you got to show your papers, huh?



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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 3:23:23 PM   
cookiefiend

 

Posts: 4414
Joined: 1/7/2008
Status: offline 		Papers!?!
We don't need no stinkin' papers!

I haven't voted one way or the other - I really don't have a stance on this.
But - it is nice to kinda know a little about who you've drawn by their previous posts.

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 3:32:56 PM   
TexasWineGeek

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GalvezGuy

It is a whole other part of this country. I think it is because Texas was an independent country born from an insurrection. Not many states are prouder of their state than Texans. I was not born here but after living here 23 years, I guess I am close to a Texan.


I was born here, lived in Yankee land (literally) and now returned so I say yes to all and WIML, well, to hell with you

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 3:35:33 PM   
GalvezGuy

 

Posts: 5864
Joined: 5/10/2007
From: Galveston, TX
Status: offline 		You have pretty much got it grafs. That being said, I have not lost anything shipped by or to me since they started "cracking down"/

quote:

ORIGINAL: grafstrb

quote:

ORIGINAL: markandsusanw


quote:

ORIGINAL: grafstrb


quote:

ORIGINAL: S1


I vote no restrictions

The TX thing is not up to a vote. Each individual person will let the Head Elf know if they are comfortable dealing with the extra risks attendant to shipping into and out of TX.


What extra risks?

I'll have to go back to last year's discussion to find out the details. Basically, "the authorities" are much more watchful re: shipment of alcohol out of and into the state, and the laws are enforced more strictly than other states. So, basically, trying to ship wine out of TX is much more difficult than trying to ship wine within TX; and, trying to ship wine into TX is much more difficult (or more likely to get confiscated) than shipping wine into other states. That's the basic gist of it, as I remember it. Maybe one of our TX forum members can fill us in on the details.




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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 3:35:37 PM   
TexasWineGeek

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: grafstrb

quote:

ORIGINAL: markandsusanw


quote:

ORIGINAL: grafstrb


quote:

ORIGINAL: S1


I vote no restrictions

The TX thing is not up to a vote. Each individual person will let the Head Elf know if they are comfortable dealing with the extra risks attendant to shipping into and out of TX.


What extra risks?

I'll have to go back to last year's discussion to find out the details. Basically, "the authorities" are much more watchful re: shipment of alcohol out of and into the state, and the laws are enforced more strictly than other states. So, basically, trying to ship wine out of TX is much more difficult than trying to ship wine within TX; and, trying to ship wine into TX is much more difficult (or more likely to get confiscated) than shipping wine into other states. That's the basic gist of it, as I remember it. Maybe one of our TX forum members can fill us in on the details.



If those who have a TX SS REALLY can't figure out how to ship here than my uncle Guido can take care of all your shipping needs.  He's a Yankee of course but via Scicila if you catch my drift.  Of course at a cost.  You can't expect uncle Guido to work for nothing can you?

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 4:25:38 PM   
BobMilton

 

Posts: 2877
Joined: 1/29/2010
From: Newbury Park, CA
Status: offline 		I may participate this year, but since I really don't care on the poll, I'm not voting!

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 10:35:21 PM   
Beachrooster

 

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Joined: 4/3/2009
From: Huntington Beach, CA
Status: offline 		I think inviting newbies could help turn Lurkers into Posters!

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/12/2012 10:45:31 PM   
fingers

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Beachrooster

I think inviting newbies could help turn Lurkers into Posters!


Agree

And if the pool ever gets to crowded for the Head Elf to handle, I would suggest increasing the bottle $ value to shew away the riff raff

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/13/2012 3:22:38 AM   
S1

 

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From: Wandering between Coastal SC and South FL
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fingers


quote:

ORIGINAL: Beachrooster

I think inviting newbies could help turn Lurkers into Posters!


Agree

And if the pool ever gets to crowded for the Head Elf to handle, I would suggest increasing the bottle $ value to shew away the riff raff


I'm fine with that

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/13/2012 3:50:26 AM   
wadcorp

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cookiefiend

But - it is nice to kinda know a little about who you've drawn by their previous posts.


Even after you got stuck with me?

.

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/14/2012 1:45:17 PM   
oskiwawa

 

Posts: 2258
Joined: 2/16/2008
From: Austin TX
Status: offline 		I have never known anyone who has had a bottle confiscated or inspected.  What Texas did was go after the retailers that were shipping into this state.  Private individuals get no more scrutiny than they do in Georgia, Florida or any other state that has rules against shipping wine directly to consumers.

quote:

ORIGINAL: grafstrb

quote:

ORIGINAL: markandsusanw


quote:

ORIGINAL: grafstrb


quote:

ORIGINAL: S1


I vote no restrictions

The TX thing is not up to a vote. Each individual person will let the Head Elf know if they are comfortable dealing with the extra risks attendant to shipping into and out of TX.


What extra risks?

I'll have to go back to last year's discussion to find out the details. Basically, "the authorities" are much more watchful re: shipment of alcohol out of and into the state, and the laws are enforced more strictly than other states. So, basically, trying to ship wine out of TX is much more difficult than trying to ship wine within TX; and, trying to ship wine into TX is much more difficult (or more likely to get confiscated) than shipping wine into other states. That's the basic gist of it, as I remember it. Maybe one of our TX forum members can fill us in on the details.


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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/14/2012 2:50:56 PM   
pjaines

 

Posts: 10664
Joined: 5/26/2008
From: London
Status: offline 		I voted "Non" because I think we are an open and friendly forum and should encourage other people to join our own little lunatic asylum.


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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/14/2012 2:53:44 PM   
dontime

 

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From: Orlando, FL
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BobMilton

I may participate this year, but since I really don't care on the poll, I'm not voting!

If you get in, we could be each ither's SS and just swap Larkmead.

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/14/2012 3:14:34 PM   
BobMilton

 

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From: Newbury Park, CA
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dontime


quote:

ORIGINAL: BobMilton

I may participate this year, but since I really don't care on the poll, I'm not voting!

If you get in, we could be each ither's SS and just swap Larkmead.

Or we could match with someone else, and get them hooked on the stuff!

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RE: CT SS Eligibility Requirements Poll - 9/14/2012 4:25:51 PM   
ckinv368

 

Posts: 985
Joined: 3/15/2011
From: Dallas, TX
Status: offline 		I'm actually curious whether this is referencing me? Didn't realize that my first post was an "in" for secret santa, but I wouldn't put it past me I suppose! I have no real preference on the SS vote, and am just happy it goes on year-after-year. Fun, fun times!


quote:

ORIGINAL: ChrisinSunnyside

Well, so far I'm the only "No". When I was head elf someone joined the CT forum and their first post was "in" for CT SS. They since have become an active and contributing member of the forum, at off lines, and is making his own hooch now in Dallas.

Not sure really what the purpose is of creating ANY eligibility requirement. We've never had anyone reneg on their commitment in 3 years and over 200 participants.



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