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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 11/30/2017 9:39:30 AM

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There has been a trend in recent years of prominent athletes (Yao Ming, Wayne Gretzky, etc) releasing their own private-label wines, usually made under contract by an existing winery. Today, I find that former U.K. and Charlotte Hornets basketball star Tony Delk is releasing his private label wines ("Lorenz00's Choice" Chardonnay and Cabernet Sauvignon). The descriptions in the publicity are a bit vague, but they appear to be NV wines made by the Wildside Winery in Woodford County, KY. I've met most of the winemakers within an hour of my house, but this winery didn't ring a bell (all the more surprising because a couple of my dear wino friends live just down the road from it), so I took the liberty of searching for tasting notes for other offerings from that establishment. I reproduce them here, for your perusal:

NV Wildside Winery Chambourcin Dangerous
XXXXXXXXX Does not like this wine: NR
Way too sweet for us.

NV Wildside Winery PawPaw
XXXXXXX Likes this wine: 85 points
Fruit salad in a glass. Quite literally, this wine smells and tastes like a fruit salad. One glass was plenty, but so intriguing it was definitely worth the purchase price.

NV Wildside Winery B.B.R
XXXXXXXX Likes this wine: NR
This wine is a cabernet that is aged in Woodford Reserve bourbon barrels. It adds a unique finish, but I wouldn't suggest it for the cabernet naturalist. However, if you enjoy cab and bourbon, this one could be for you.

2008 Wildside Winery Chambourcin
XXXXXXXXXX wrote: NR
Drink same day. Oxides quickly.

Good luck, Tony......

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 11/30/2017 10:48:10 AM

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"Fruit salad in a glass". I like that idea.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 11/30/2017 12:58:33 PM

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From one of the friends who lives near the winery, in an e-mail exchange this afternoon, concerning that winery's products: "Ohhhweeeee, they are revolting".....

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 11/30/2017 1:45:43 PM

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reminds me of the lowest scored tasting note I have written :

NV Barefoot Cellars Moscato Mendoza

5/28/2012 - I wrote: 72 points (Edit)
Popped and poured a gift bottle. Color is very light. Almost no body. Nose of Pineapple and lemon.
A demi-sec level of sweetness. Palate of diluted fruit cocktail juice mixed 1:3 with Fresca.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 11/30/2017 2:32:20 PM

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Reminds me of trips to Gatlinburg, TN, or most other wineries in the mid south that I have visited.

Also my own family weddings where they've served wine I've made from Washington grapes, and been asked if I had anything sweeter. I tell my cousins to add Mountain Dew.

I will say, I think Chambourcin is a very nice red wine when in the right hands. But oh it seems it is rarely so.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 11/30/2017 4:31:42 PM

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quote:

11/28/2017 - XXXXXXXXXXX LIKES THIS WINE: 91 points
Kelly birthday party with Cath

Would the score have gone up or down if it was "Cath birthday party with Kelly"?

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 11/30/2017 5:04:39 PM

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Recotte--something to add to your tagline:

"If two people agree on everything, one of them is unnecessary." -- Oscar Wilde

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/1/2017 6:32:58 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Eddie

Recotte--something to add to your tagline:

"If two people agree on everything, one of them is unnecessary." -- Oscar Wilde

I like it. Done.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/1/2017 9:29:18 AM

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If two people agree on everything, one is the boss and the other is bucking for promotion or a nice Christmas bonus.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/1/2017 5:16:07 PM

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Had a Crozes-Hermitage tonight described (and verified) as having notes of "Dried Olive".

It's a fascinating concept -- who among you has eaten dried olives?

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/4/2017 4:12:51 AM

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This, in a note for an Austrian Riesling, seems like it would almost never be appropriate:

"...Drink at seller temperature on a hot day."

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/4/2017 11:10:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: SteveG

This, in a note for an Austrian Riesling, seems like it would almost never be appropriate:

"...Drink at seller temperature on a hot day."

Well maybe when it was sold it was the previous owner had it already at the right temp?

-Mark

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/4/2017 1:11:00 PM

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This, in a note for an Austrian Riesling, seems like it would almost never be appropriate:

"...Drink at seller temperature on a hot day."

Let's hope the seller didn't go outside for long that day. 98.6˚ is already too high!

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/4/2017 4:22:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: recotte

quote:

ORIGINAL: Eddie

Recotte--something to add to your tagline:

"If two people agree on everything, one of them is unnecessary." -- Oscar Wilde

I like it. Done.

"The secret of life is to appreciate the pleasure of being terribly, terribly deceived."
–– Oscar Wilde, writer (1854-1900)

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/4/2017 4:26:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: recotte

quote:

ORIGINAL: Eddie

Recotte--something to add to your tagline:

"If two people agree on everything, one of them is unnecessary." -- Oscar Wilde

I like it. Done.

"The secret of life is to appreciate the pleasure of being terribly, terribly deceived."
–– Oscar Wilde, writer (1854-1900)

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/5/2017 7:24:17 AM

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"The secret of life is to appreciate the pleasure of being terribly, terribly deceived."
–– Oscar Wilde, writer (1854-1900)

Witty, Wilde.
Very witty.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/5/2017 8:06:29 AM

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Hello Eddie,

Lorenz00's Reserve was indeed produced by Wildside Winery in Versailles, KY. Wildside has been around since 2004 and currently makes 32 different wines, specializing in dry red wines. My personal favorite is the estate grown 2013 Cabernet Franc.

Lorenz00's Cabernet Sauvignon is aged in a used Blanton's bourbon barrel for a year with an ABV of 15%. This is a very Fruit forward cab, with notes of current, black cherry, vanilla, tobacco, and heavy oak. Medium plus body, but a good heat from the bourbon makes it a long lasting flavor.

The Chardonnay is stainless steel aged. A very light, crisp Chardonnay with hints of peach and melon. Sweet on the nose, but bone dry on the pallet.

Alex Southwell
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/8/2017 3:56:17 PM

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A picture is worth a ....

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/9/2017 3:25:08 PM

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A picture is worth a ....

This dude needs an even bigger "Fudge Factor (FF) " than James Laube. Laube gets -2 to -5 FF but this dude gets -8 to -10

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/13/2017 3:44:33 AM

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2010 Gianni Masciarelli Montepulciano d'Abruzzo Marina Cvetić

XXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:

Fantastic. Like a really rich Zinfandel or Chateauneuf or even Port. The alcohol is well integrated even though it is substantial. Capable of holding its own against any meal you could dream up. If I was forced to eat human carpaccio, I’d want this wine to wash it down.

No that is news you can use.

By the way, folks, this is one of those rare wines that lives up to (or even exceeds) the hype of its professional reviews. I've been through a number of bottles of it (sans human carpaccio) and have been very pleased.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/13/2017 4:52:07 AM

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2011 Occidental Pinot Noir Cuvée Catherine Occidental Station

2/12/2017 - Xxxxxxx WROTE: 93 Points
Showed very well — classic burg nose. Soft and delicate in Old world style. Delightful.
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12/10/2017 - Yyyyyy WROTE: 90 Points
a bit too massive for me. Well made but just very very New World in style. dark, viscous and big for a pinot. good for that style but wasnt necessarily in the mood for that when we had it.

I often see similar contradicting opinions on the “Burgundian” (or not) nature of Pinot Noir produced in the US. These back-to-back TNs are only one example. I’m just getting started learning Burgundy so holding off on my own proclamations.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/13/2017 5:11:57 AM

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I'm working my way through a bunch of the Masciarelli I picked up from WTSO a couple of years ago and couldn't agree more that this wine is real well done (especially at this price point). Also, its evolving with age. I have a couple of bottles of their 2010 Villa Gemma, that I am looking forward to trying.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/13/2017 6:40:03 AM

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2011 Occidental Pinot Noir Cuvée Catherine Occidental Station

2/12/2017 - Xxxxxxx WROTE: 93 Points
Showed very well — classic burg nose. Soft and delicate in Old world style. Delightful.
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12/10/2017 - Yyyyyy WROTE: 90 Points
a bit too massive for me. Well made but just very very New World in style. dark, viscous and big for a pinot. good for that style but wasnt necessarily in the mood for that when we had it.

I often see similar contradicting opinions on the “Burgundian” (or not) nature of Pinot Noir produced in the US. These back-to-back TNs are only one example. I’m just getting started learning Burgundy so holding off on my own proclamations.

I rarely check out TNs on US wines, because I rather rarely drink them myself, so I really can't comment much on this phenomenon, but on a tangential point, I see quite often people (most likely from the States) writing TNs on wines contradicting both my and public opinion 100%. It's not rare to see people writing how a wine from an ultra-traditionalist producer being a "rather modern effort made in very new world style" or a very polished modernist wine being a "classic example of the old-school style of the region".

I imagine most TNs like these are written by people who really have no knowledge or in-depth experience of the regional styles; if, say, a Barolo tastes more "European" than your run-of-the-mill Napa Cab, that doesn't make it old-school yet.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/13/2017 7:02:51 AM

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I rarely check out TNs on US wines, because I rather rarely drink them myself, so I really can't comment much on this phenomenon, but on a tangential point, I see quite often people (most likely from the States) writing TNs on wines contradicting both my and public opinion 100%. It's not rare to see people writing how a wine from an ultra-traditionalist producer being a "rather modern effort made in very new world style" or a very polished modernist wine being a "classic example of the old-school style of the region".

I imagine most TNs like these are written by people who really have no knowledge or in-depth experience of the regional styles; if, say, a Barolo tastes more "European" than your run-of-the-mill Napa Cab, that doesn't make it old-school yet.

Decantation time should be taken into account too. A wine often contradicts its own first impressions after 6 or 8 hours of aeration.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/13/2017 9:00:45 AM

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I rarely check out TNs on US wines, because I rather rarely drink them myself, so I really can't comment much on this phenomenon, but on a tangential point, I see quite often people (most likely from the States) writing TNs on wines contradicting both my and public opinion 100%. It's not rare to see people writing how a wine from an ultra-traditionalist producer being a "rather modern effort made in very new world style" or a very polished modernist wine being a "classic example of the old-school style of the region".

I imagine most TNs like these are written by people who really have no knowledge or in-depth experience of the regional styles; if, say, a Barolo tastes more "European" than your run-of-the-mill Napa Cab, that doesn't make it old-school yet.

Decantation time should be taken into account too. A wine often contradicts its own first impressions after 6 or 8 hours of aeration.

Of course, but this time I meant stylistic differences. If a Barolo or Barbaresco is made from grapes harvested very late, macerated for a very short time and aged in 100% new barriques, you really can't call it traditional or old-school, no matter how long or short time it had been breathing beforehand.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/22/2017 9:26:40 AM

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2014 Domaine du Pégaü Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Réservée Red Rhone Blend
12/19/2017 - XXXXXX WROTE: NR
Wrong vintage

Love these notes.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/22/2017 9:30:32 AM

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1989 Penfolds Grange
12/22/2017 - XXXXX Wrote:
95 points

Found in cellar. V surprised. In great condition. Didn’t decant which was a mistake as it just kept opening ....layering with different nuances as time went on. Oak there but nicely integrated with fruit cake of flavours. Super long length. Not my style of wine but impressive as I wasn’t expecting much given the year

Now that is a stellar cellar find!

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/26/2017 6:56:22 AM

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1999 Chateau Margaux
12/24/2017 - xxxx WROTE: NR
Wow! Just received a bottle (empty) for Christmas! Heard that the wine was excellent!

Who gives someone an empty bottle? That just seems a bit mean.

(and I would like to find an '89 Grange just lying around the cellar - that would be a great Christmas present!)

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/26/2017 11:56:09 AM

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Back to back notes:

12/15/2017 - XXXXX WROTE: 93 Points
Still tight after a long decant. But the fruit is beginning to emerge. Deep fruit, excellent balance, this should be really nice when it emerges. Needs about two years.

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11/11/2017 - XXXXX LIKES THIS WINE: 85 Points
Past prime...interesting but a shadow of former self.

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Interesting that the taster who noted it was a shadow of it's former self still Liked it.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 12/27/2017 8:54:28 AM

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XXXXX LIKES THIS WINE: 52 Points

They don't seem to be giving themselves much room to differentiate between wines they like and those they don't as the the lowest they can give is 50, or perhaps they have a penchant for wines that are to be avoided, which is quite niche. Another example where the absence of a note renders the post rather meaningless for the rest of the community. Love this thread, and many thanks to you and all the contributors for providing more than a few chuckles.

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