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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 6:32:05 AM   
Paul S

 

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Status: offline 		My last highly rated Parker nightmare - the Mollydooker Boxer. Still sends shivers down my spine. http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=238920

At least that was a relatively cheap bottle, compared to an even more highly-rated wine plonker - the Fox Creek Reserve. http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=246430

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 6:37:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Paul S

My last highly rated Parker nightmare - the Mollydooker Boxer. Still sends shivers down my spine. http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=238920



Did you happen to see my TN on the same wine?  I agree with you completely.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 6:45:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Haha, what can I say - you've got a refined palate. At least I gave it a highly, highly respectable 88. May have to downgrade it on relfection. *shivers*

The person who wrote the TN below certainly did not agree with us:

Spectacular. One of my personal favorites. A little over the top initially, but much improved after sitting out for about 30 minutes.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 8:36:59 AM   
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 8:40:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, WA gets more than enough subcriptions for Robert Parker not to advertise, to pay his staff, and still make oodles of money (at least I think he does). AND highly rated Parker wines continue to fly off the shelves at amazing speeds and even more amazing prices. So lots of people must share Mr Parker's Palate.

I just happen not too, and I'm narrow minded and bigoted enough to think that some of his favourites are not objectively good wines  : ) 

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 8:41:46 AM   
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 8:47:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Haha, that would be an interesting exercise Serge - stick out necks out, get flamed by Parkerites, Wine Spectator afficinados etc, cut their vehement responses and paste them here for public consumption. Any volunteers?

You know - I think we're just being that little bit mean-spirited. Like I said in another thread, I have benefitted tons from Parker's ratings. Some are real bloopers in my opinion, but still... and, I take WS with a pinch of salt, but still buy almost 1 in every 2 issues. I only skip horrendous ones (like this month's for example - Great American Pizzas, or something like that.. like what?!? A wine magazine?). So I qualify my statements as every good lawyer would do.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 9:30:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Paul, been there, done that and got banned from it!
Critic affiliated boards are just a bunch of scrotum lickers..and they call themselves..wine coinosseurs or
[ulr=http://video.aol.com/video-detail/walken-snl-colonel-angus/11109665]Colonel Angus[/url]
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...and I enjoy my notariety created by my "volunteering"
;)

...too bad I ran out of "Critic affiliated wine boards"
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 9:42:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tasted by Alpine on 7/30/2004 & rated 89 points: Nice nose, respectable fruit for the vintage. Cassis and lead pencil emerge as the wine sits in the glass. I drank this the Friday afternoon that I was supposed to be at the Senior US Open but is was rained out. I scored a 61 in Tiger Woods golf, play station 2 my lowest round ever. At Poppy Hills from the back tees and fst greens.
 

If the 1993 Mouton Rothschild had been a 93 pointer maybe he wouldn't have broken his record?
Always looking for those silver linings.
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 9:55:44 AM   
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I would have sworn you were Pavie Princess?
Strong opinions about wine; knowledgeable about horses; both love, love.
You seem to know what each other will say, before you say it.
And if I were Shakespeare I'd be forced to say 'methinks the lady doth protest too much' -
"Serge you are in your own world and I am in mine.....Thank goddness for natural selection"". 
When is she coming back, do you know? 
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 9:57:46 AM   
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 10:17:35 AM   
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Surely you have an alias or two.
I would have sworn you were Pavie Princess?
Strong opinions about wine; knowledgeable about horses; both love, love.
You seem to know what each other will say, before you say it.
And if I were Shakespeare I'd be forced to say 'methinks the lady doth protest too much' -
"Serge you are in your own world and I am in mine.....Thank goddness for natural selection"". 
When is she coming back, do you know? 
L.


She'll be back as soon as artificial insemination process is over. The Arab stallion we put our hands on is the Kentucky Derby material. We give him 1900 d'Yquem every morning.

As for aliases....no can do, my English and posting style always gives me away!

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 10:22:16 AM   
Serge Birbrair

 

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Hilarious - you're in a different league all together Serge.


Are you trying to make me blush???





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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 11:06:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Serge Birbrair

As for aliases....no can do, my English and posting style always gives me away!


It's a wise man who knows himself.

"One who knows the enemy and knows himself will not be in danger in a hundred battles. One who does not know the enemy but knows himself will sometimes win, sometimes lose. One who does not know the enemy and does not know himself will be in danger in every battle."

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/2/2008 11:14:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		BUDD: So, which "R" you filled with?
ELLE: What?
BUDD: They say the number one killer of old people is retirement. People got'em a job to do, they tend to live a little longer so they can do it. I've always figured warriors and their enemies share the same relationship. So now you ain't gonna hafta face your enemy on the battlefield no more, which "R" are you filled with, Relief or Regret?
ELLE: A little bit of both.
BUDD: Bullshit. I'm sure you do feel a little bit of both. But I know damn well you feel one more than you feel the other. The question was which one?
ELLE: Regret.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/5/2008 5:35:36 AM   
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1999 Pio Cesare Barolo (Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo) 
Tasted by  on 7/4/2008 & rated 91 points: This wine changed multiple times over the course of several hours, but I probably liked it best at open, when it had a Burgundian acidity with wonderful sour cherry palate and ripe cherry nose. After a couple hour decant, it seemed to lose some of its flavors and nose, but after some time in the glass, it transformed to a darker more brooding specimen.




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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/5/2008 5:43:39 AM   
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2001 Pio Cesare Barolo(Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo) 
Tasted on 7/4/2008: Tight even after 2 hour decant. Still, has good dark fruit, earthiness, (wife added smell of flavored tobacco). More on the palate with lots of tannins. Longish finish. (123 views)
 
 

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/7/2008 3:18:42 PM   
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2006 Chateau Grand Traverse Riesling Whole Cluster (USA, Michigan, Old Mission Peninsula) 
7/7/2008




subdued nose of apple skin, quartz and cinnamon stick.





"Quartz?"  What does that smell like?

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/7/2008 11:37:12 PM   
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"Quartz?"  What does that smell like?


I don't know, but I bet it's the same each time.
L.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 8:22:05 AM   
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N.V. Echo Falls Winery Merlot (USA, California) 
7/9/2008

50


What vile juice hath satan spat forth here? What sputum erupts from his belly? This is anti-wine. Non-wine.

Echo Falls - marketed in the UK to chav women obsessed with getting smashed and stumbling down an English city centre street near you screaming and shouting obscenities at 2am. Marketed to make the proles think they are sophisticated because they are drinking "wine" when in fact they are a glugging down manufactured product - the liquid equivalent of a Big Mac or a Mars Bar.

They no doubt try and market this wine is lovingly made to high quality standards by oompah-lumpahs in a Willy-Wonka-like vinyard covered with love and care and delicately poured one bottle at a time out of the vats and hand delivered by rustic farmers to a supermarket near you. Instead it is probably churned out from a Chernobyl-style uber-factory at 60,000 bottles per hour, resembling more a manufactured combination of man-made materials, NASA-created chemicals, sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar, more sugar and some alcohol.

And why did I drink this? Because my poor old mum bought me a bottle and insisted on having a glass together and I couldn't say no. I grimaced, drank up and thought of fluffy bunnies to make the pain go away. I feel dirty and ashamed.


I could protect the reviewer's identity, but not the wine's!

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 8:33:15 AM   
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 8:37:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Fingers - Love this but a click on the wine reveals the author. Had to be someone from the UK with an opening like that.  Almost added him to favourite author as credit where credit's due, he could have just pretended he hadn't drank it and hidden in shame!

Will have to stock up my mum's wines soon, ready for our summer trip, otherwsie a similar fate awaits!

Wrighty

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 8:38:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Pjaines - must have been posting at the same time.  Great TN, I still have the smile on my face and the grimace that a similar fate could await me in the summer!

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 8:40:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I felt really bad because my mum popped down to London to see me and the poor old dear, she knows nothing about wine and thought she was being really nice bringing me a bottle.  It was the longest bottle of wine in my life.  It just went on and on.  

Good luck in return.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 8:49:06 AM   
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 9:15:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		haha, pjaines - that is an absolutely brilliant note, bowled me over. Tell you what, add me as a favourite taster and I will add you. I am shamelessly trying to move up the list of favourite tasters as you can see. Currently at page 3.

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 9:25:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Paul & Paul & Paul, timing is everything and I certainly wasn't shopping for 50pt wines.  The lovely descriptor was simply one of the first reviews this morning when I clicked TN's. And not that there's anything to be embarrassed about with such well-written opinion, but I considered it courtesy to not mention handles.  One can always look it up on the main site.  I'm flattered by being considered as "The Bigger Question"  but my vote would be for the question, "Can we get some more lousy wines to Paul for entertainments sake?"   But, I'm not looking to make enemies, either. 

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 9:30:07 AM   
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haha, pjaines - that is an absolutely brilliant note, bowled me over. Tell you what, add me as a favourite taster and I will add you. I am shamelessly trying to move up the list of favourite tasters as you can see. Currently at page 3.


Ditto, I'd rather take the note like this over "autumn leafs covered with caramel" at any time!

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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 9:33:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Paul, I added you. If those things make your pneis grow, why not!?
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RE: Tasting Notes To Note - 7/9/2008 10:07:46 AM   
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