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RE: Italia - 2/10/2017 2:34:55 PM   
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Tim, questo suona così divertente! Godetevi tutto e condividere con noi quei bis della vita che ritieni degni. Ciao!

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RE: Italia - 2/10/2017 3:00:43 PM   
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Sounds like fun, Tim - looking forward to reading about it. Buon viaggio!

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RE: Italia - 2/11/2017 12:10:22 AM   
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Big fan of Italian wine and Italian food. I often think the Italians put as much love into their inexpensive wines and into the $$$$$$ stuff.

2 topics I'd like any feedback on, from any CT Italian lovers w/opinions:

1. Wines you have particularly enjoyed that are priced <= $20. Red, white, region doesn't matter.

2. Best links to easy Italian recipes. Anything. I specialize in homemade pizza and calzone, so always interested in those. But simple stuff that I can adapt to a slow cooker, for instance, for other main meals. Easy breads, desserts, salads. Whatever.

Salute!

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RE: Italia - 2/11/2017 3:09:13 PM   
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I don't do much with Italy but have enjoyed Falesco Vitiano and Allegrini Piazza Della Torre over many years

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RE: Italia - 2/11/2017 3:22:59 PM   
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Thanks. I posted the following Italians as a few key Comfort Wines:

Piedmont Barbera: such as Vietti
Tuscan Chianti, Chianti Classico: San Felice, Badia di Morrona I Sodi del Parataio, Perazzeta Sara or Mercurio
Veneto Valpolicella Superiore: Sartori

Falesco we may have had. Will look up Allegrini. Reminds me we have had some of the inexpensive Antinori....

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RE: Italia - 2/11/2017 4:21:05 PM   
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Bramito chardonnay from Antinori is still available in Costco at $15-16: a brilliant buy at that price

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RE: Italia - 2/12/2017 8:30:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: musedir

My wi and I go to NYC every December just before Xmas for theatre, museums, galleries and food... Not sure what order is best. I would enjoy hearing of those Italian restaurants in Manhattan that you would recommend.


Felidia (Lidia Bastianich's oldest NYC restaurant - N. italian, istrian cuisine)

Lincoln (chef jonathan benno knows what he is doing) PS Wine list at Lincoln is spectacular!

da Umberto (only a few tables. this trattoria has a long standing following)

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RE: Italia - 2/12/2017 1:36:32 PM   
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I have completed my series for my visit to Casa Emma, I hope you enjoy.

Part I

Part II

Part III

Part IV

Part V

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RE: Italia - 2/13/2017 2:32:28 PM   
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Another value wine I remembered:

Tormaresca Neprica, by Antinori, Puglia. Blend of Negroamaro, Primitivo, and Cab Sauv. Hence the NEPRICA.

Great everyday red, or party wine. Often $10 - $12 or less.

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RE: Italia - 2/18/2017 7:23:16 PM   
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The first installment of my Massolino series

HOW TO MAKE A LASTING IMPRESSION – MASSOLINO (AZ. AGR. VIGNA RIONDA), PART I

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RE: Italia - 2/18/2017 8:52:36 PM   
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Went to dinner tonight at a local Italian place (sort of). Earlier today I was at Total Wine looking for some cheapo bubbles for mimosas but I also was browsing around the Italian section. I thought it would be nice to take an Arneis to dinner as the opening wine prior to Brunellos and Cabs. First guy comes over to me in the Piemonte section and asks me...Can I help you find something? I tell him I am looking for an Arneis. He gives me a look and says he will go look it up. A minute later, another guy comes over and ask me what I am looking for. I have to spell out A-R-N-E-I-S. He looks it up on his cell database and says it's a red. I said, no, it's a white, from Piedmont. He directs me over to the "Italian Whites" section, which of course, means there are no whites in the "Piemonte Wine" section. (Why not call it Piemonte Red section if there are no whites there?) At any rate, they had none, I got none, and I apparently knew more than they did. Of course, I was in Piemonte with Wine Strategies last year so I was at an advantage in the Total Wine.

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RE: Italia - 2/18/2017 8:56:40 PM   
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Of course, I was in Piemonte with Wine Strategies last year


Sounds like the beginnings of a movie. BorntToRhone & WineStrategies go to Piedmont. Sort of like Howard & Kumar go to White Castle, but classier.

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RE: Italia - 2/18/2017 8:59:07 PM   
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Man, that is some gorgeous real estate.

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RE: Italia - 2/19/2017 5:36:55 AM   
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Ah, BTR!

Total sems to have very low staffing standards. But knowing more than tbey do is not always enough. I now check prices on any wine I don't know for I have found entry wine priced at first label price.

Salud!

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RE: Italia - 2/20/2017 1:24:48 PM   
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Probably one of my three months this spring will focus just on Tuscany.

That said, I've got the bulk of my tasting lined up now...finally (current releases, some barrel tasting, and some oldies) as follows:

Agostina Pieri
Altesino
Antinori
(Poggio) Argentiera
Argiano
Avignonesi
Az. Agr. Lisini
Az. Agr. Montebernardi
Badia a Coltibuouno
Barone Ricasoli
Bibi Graetz
Boscarelli
Caciorgna Paolo
Camigliano
Campo alla Sughera
Canalicchio di Sopra
Caparzo (see Altesino)
Casa Emma
Casalvento
Casanova di Neri
Castello dei Rampolla
Castello di Fonterutoli
Castello di Volpaia
Castiglion del Bosco
Ciacci Piccolomini
Col d'Orcia
Collemattoni
(Az. Agr.) (Il) Colombaio
Conti Costanti
Cupano
Duemani
Fanti
Fattoria Carpineta Fontalpino
Fattoria Le Pupille
Fattoria San Giusto a Rentennano
Fattoria Uccelliera
Fattoria Viticcio
Felsina
Fontodi
(Tenuta) Friggiali
Fuligni
Gianni Brunelli
Grattamacco
Il Marroneto
Isole e Olena
Lamole di Lamole
La Palazzetta (Fanti)
Lazzeretti (if time)
Le Ragnaie
Mastrojanni
Mocali (if time)
Molino di Grace
Monsanto
Montenidoli
Morisfarms (if time)
Petrolo (w/Costanti)
Pian Dell'Orino
Podere Salicutti
Poggio di Sotto
Poliziano
Salvioni (Az. Agr. Cerbaiola)
Sassetti Livio (Pertimali)
Selvapiana
Siro Pacenti
Stella di Campalto
Talenti
Tenuta Il Poggione
Terre Nere (Vallone Pasquale)
Tua Rita
Valdicava

That said, I'll be on the lookout for some new labels, too.

ciao

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RE: Italia - 2/20/2017 7:30:58 PM   
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I'm in the non italian but travel there a lot and know a good bit about the vino. In the import business. My favoritescanner are BdM, Amarone, Aliganoco and some super Tuscany blends. Capri.. ahhh! love north lakes, Garda, etc. Favorite city Verona.

planning to retire on Lake garda.

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RE: Italia - 2/22/2017 3:45:09 PM   
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I finished part II and part III in the Massolino (Barolo) series

Part II

Part III

In addition, in the past few days I've organized my day ( 1 of 4) in the Piemonte Pavilion at Vin Italy:

Anna Maria Abbona
Agostino Pavia (w/Cascina Ballarin)
Alessandria Fratelli
Elio Altare (w/Veglio Mauro)
Antica Casa Scarpa
Azelia
(Az. Agr.) Guido Porro - Marchisio
Bera
Braida
Brovia
Burlotto
Cantina Del Pino
Cascina Chicco
Csc. Morassino - Nuove Radici
Chionetti - Consorzio Langa
Ciabot Berton
Colombo - Cascina Pastori
Cordero
Correggia - Consorzio Langa
Cortese Giuseppe
Dante Rivetti
Ferraris
Germano Ettore - Vignaioli Piemontese
Elio Grasso
La Colombera - Vignaioli Piemontese
Le Piane
Marcarini
Mariotto Claudio
Mascarello Giuseppe
Massolino
Oddero
Montalbera
Pecchenino
Pelissero
Proprieta Sperino - Isole e Olena
Travaligni
Vietti

** I'll likely need 1 1/2 of my 4 days for this region, which is fine. Still, my feet already hurt.

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RE: Italia - 2/22/2017 4:13:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wine_Strategies

Still, my feet already hurt.


They'll get better. When you recount the stories, I doubt you'll do much more than mention in passing how tired you were and how much your feet hurt. Or, in short: no pain, no gain!

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RE: Italia - 3/9/2017 10:55:57 AM   
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Planning is going, slowly, but going. I've decided that immediately after Vin Italy, as it is near impossible to arrange visits to cellars/vineyards as everyone is too busy catching up, I'm going to take 4 days in Trentino-Adige. I've decided on this place, in Mezzocorona, as my base. Hopefully the weather will cooperate and I can get some good hiking in around the Dolomites. And photography, of course And wine drinking, of course course

Also, I've decided to skip the tastings at the Lombardia (Franciacorta/Valtellina) pavilion, instead, I'm working with the Consorzio to arrange an entire week in the region, tasting pretty much all of the wines, and having sit down visits with the producers.

Small victories, but I'll take all I can get.

Now to send out all my emails to arrange my tastings at Sicily pavilion, in preparation for my three weeks (2 on Etna, 1 in Vittoria). Hoping to get some quick traction, fingers crossed.

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RE: Italia - 3/9/2017 12:31:24 PM   
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And for something completely different, whats everyone's thoughts on Rossese and whites from Liguria? I love Selvadolce's Rossese, and I just had their 100% Pigato and it was fantastic. Hard to find these in the states.

What other Ligurian wine producers do people like?



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RE: Italia - 3/9/2017 12:32:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Earl T

I'm in the non italian but travel there a lot and know a good bit about the vino. In the import business. My favoritescanner are BdM, Amarone, Aliganoco and some super Tuscany blends. Capri.. ahhh! love north lakes, Garda, etc. Favorite city Verona.

planning to retire on Lake garda.


Is it big money to buy a place on Garda? I'm always blown away by how beautiful it is when I drive by it.

Verona is also my favorite city in Italy. Always make a point to spend a couple days there after skiing. Botegga Di Vino is probably my favorite restaurant in the world.

-af

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RE: Italia - 3/9/2017 3:14:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wine_Strategies

Planning is going, slowly, but going. I've decided that immediately after Vin Italy, as it is near impossible to arrange visits to cellars/vineyards as everyone is too busy catching up, I'm going to take 4 days in Trentino-Adige. I've decided on this place, in Mezzocorona, as my base. Hopefully the weather will cooperate and I can get some good hiking in around the Dolomites. And photography, of course And wine drinking, of course course

Also, I've decided to skip the tastings at the Lombardia (Franciacorta/Valtellina) pavilion, instead, I'm working with the Consorzio to arrange an entire week in the region, tasting pretty much all of the wines, and having sit down visits with the producers.

Small victories, but I'll take all I can get.

Now to send out all my emails to arrange my tastings at Sicily pavilion, in preparation for my three weeks (2 on Etna, 1 in Vittoria). Hoping to get some quick traction, fingers crossed.

As always, I live for the photos and the notes/stories/trivia....

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RE: Italia - 3/9/2017 7:30:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wine_Strategies

I finished part II and part III in the Massolino (Barolo) series

Part II

Part III

In addition, in the past few days I've organized my day ( 1 of 4) in the Piemonte Pavilion at Vin Italy:

Anna Maria Abbona
Agostino Pavia (w/Cascina Ballarin)
Alessandria Fratelli
Elio Altare (w/Veglio Mauro)
Antica Casa Scarpa
Azelia
(Az. Agr.) Guido Porro - Marchisio
Bera
Braida
Brovia
Burlotto
Cantina Del Pino
Cascina Chicco
Csc. Morassino - Nuove Radici
Chionetti - Consorzio Langa
Ciabot Berton
Colombo - Cascina Pastori
Cordero
Correggia - Consorzio Langa
Cortese Giuseppe
Dante Rivetti
Ferraris
Germano Ettore - Vignaioli Piemontese
Elio Grasso
La Colombera - Vignaioli Piemontese
Le Piane
Marcarini
Mariotto Claudio
Mascarello Giuseppe
Massolino
Oddero
Montalbera
Pecchenino
Pelissero
Proprieta Sperino - Isole e Olena
Travaligni
Vietti

** I'll likely need 1 1/2 of my 4 days for this region, which is fine. Still, my feet already hurt.


Hey Tim - do you still need someone to carry your bags and tell you where the speed traps and ZTL zones are? I don't eat much.

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RE: Italia - 3/10/2017 12:05:53 AM   
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Another value red from the frugal one.

Perazzeta Sara Rose' of Sangiovese, Toscana, IGP, 2015. For $14. The Sara Rosso has been good in the past, can't find it right now.

I'd be willing to consider any Perazzeta wine.

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RE: Italia - 3/10/2017 8:14:16 AM   
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I had this recently and it blew me away.

http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/tenute+guicciardini+strozzi+campo+capriolo+bolgheri+tuscany+italy

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RE: Italia - 3/10/2017 4:05:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BornToRhone

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wine_Strategies

I finished part II and part III in the Massolino (Barolo) series

Part II

Part III

In addition, in the past few days I've organized my day ( 1 of 4) in the Piemonte Pavilion at Vin Italy:

Anna Maria Abbona
Agostino Pavia (w/Cascina Ballarin)
Alessandria Fratelli
Elio Altare (w/Veglio Mauro)
Antica Casa Scarpa
Azelia
(Az. Agr.) Guido Porro - Marchisio
Bera
Braida
Brovia
Burlotto
Cantina Del Pino
Cascina Chicco
Csc. Morassino - Nuove Radici
Chionetti - Consorzio Langa
Ciabot Berton
Colombo - Cascina Pastori
Cordero
Correggia - Consorzio Langa
Cortese Giuseppe
Dante Rivetti
Ferraris
Germano Ettore - Vignaioli Piemontese
Elio Grasso
La Colombera - Vignaioli Piemontese
Le Piane
Marcarini
Mariotto Claudio
Mascarello Giuseppe
Massolino
Oddero
Montalbera
Pecchenino
Pelissero
Proprieta Sperino - Isole e Olena
Travaligni
Vietti

** I'll likely need 1 1/2 of my 4 days for this region, which is fine. Still, my feet already hurt.


Hey Tim - do you still need someone to carry your bags and tell you where the speed traps and ZTL zones are? I don't eat much.


as a matter of fact, Joe, I do need some help. I am bringing 2 cases of wine this trip, plus my bag. Oh, and you can eat as much as you like, I will


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RE: Italia - 3/15/2017 6:22:56 PM   
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I'll hijack this thread for any advice anyone can give on SICILY.

I'll be staying there for the month of July, mainly on the eastern shores. First week will be somewhere near Catania (or possibly just staying in Catania, if people think there's enough to see and do for a whole week.). A week on Etna tasting wine and wondering down to Taormina and surrounding spots for beach days. Then maybe heading to the Ragusa/Modica area for a week or so at some kind of Agroturismo or maybe just a big house if I can find one.

Places to stay, things to do, see, eat, climb, etc. would be most appreciated.

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RE: Italia - 3/18/2017 1:51:12 PM   
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Here's my itinerary March, April, May and June

@puppetclause: Jeff, I'll be in Sicilia for nearly 2 weeks in May, I'll leave lots of breadcrumbs - and, of course, send you the skinny.

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RE: Italia - 3/18/2017 9:37:50 PM   
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Not much to add here. Tim is *The Man.* My wife is a good bit Italian - her dad's family is from a tiny hamlet (mother's side) - San Fele in Potenza/Basilicata, and also from (his dad's side) Agrigento, Sicily. We've been to both places and they are totally non-touristy, to the point where there's not much to do as far as staying and eating/drinking there - you take a bus in and out. Yet MY GOD Everything Tastes Good In Italy - part of it is that stuff doesn't get transported like 3000 miles, as from California to the east coast of the U.S., but rather it's raised on local truck farms, and/or mom-and-pop enterprises close to where it's served, admirably fresh.

Had a "seafood salad" in Salerno, Italy (no big tourist destination there, either) and it was all tentacles and eyes - had to laugh. "Seafood."

Surprisingly excellent red and white wines in relatively cheap restaurants, just the "house" wines. Contrast that with the stuff I've seen served at most American and Canadian restaurants for the past 32 years.... Gad.

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RE: Italia - 3/29/2017 12:55:23 PM   
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Eastern Sicily, I would totally stay in the town of Aci Trezza just north of Catania along the water. Nice and relaxing with tons of restaurants and cafe's looking out over the rock formations that pop out of the water as well as the Castle just south in Aci Castello. Nicely located to make day trips to Taormina, Etna and Catania. (I'd also make a day trip to Messina for the Duomo glockenspiel going off at 12 o'clock and then take passenger ferry over to the mainland to see the Bronze Men statues at Reggio Calabria. Similarly, would stay in the old part of Ragusa, Ragusa Ibla, and then make day trips to Modica (must try the chocolate), Noto and Siracusa. It was fun to read that Robert Camuto Palmento: A Sicilian Wine Odyssey book prior to going. The wine bar he talks about on Etna in Solicchiata is now also a restaurant, Cave Ox, and is a hoot. Tenuta della Terre Nere was probably my favorite vineyard to visit and do a wine tasting up there. Have a great time and try the granita instead of gelato!

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