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RE: Brrr - 12/7/2013 8:59:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't recall you mentioning that. It'll likely be 70F by then...or -32F.

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RE: Brrr - 12/7/2013 9:04:08 AM   
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5°F this morning and several of us from the running group are meeting for a run today.


Stout hearts are showing...

Karl, serious question - does running in very cold air ever bother you, as far as affecting your respiratory system to the point that it makes it hard to run that day, or in subsequent days?

I used to run, and have read that the air is sufficiently warmed by passing through the nose or mouth, bronchial tubes, etc. that "freezing the lungs" or the like really does not happen and is not a concern, unless one would be facing Antarctica-like conditions of -70 air temp. or something.

Still, with temperatures from -10 up to around 20 (-23 to -7 Celsius), just breathing heavily in that air would have me coughing, spitting, blowing my nose. Not all the time, and some of those winter runs were really great - silent country roads, snowflakes drifting down.... But enough that you saying "5°F" made me think of it right away.

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RE: Brrr - 12/7/2013 3:57:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Was 11 degrees this morning - very unusual for western Washington.

NPR had a story yesterday on the cold weather affecting vines at Pepper Bridge in Walla Walla. Think it may be even colder tonight.



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RE: Brrr - 12/7/2013 4:30:42 PM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/7/2013 5:46:23 PM   
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5°F this morning and several of us from the running group are meeting for a run today.


Stout hearts are showing...

Karl, serious question - does running in very cold air ever bother you, as far as affecting your respiratory system to the point that it makes it hard to run that day, or in subsequent days?

I used to run, and have read that the air is sufficiently warmed by passing through the nose or mouth, bronchial tubes, etc. that "freezing the lungs" or the like really does not happen and is not a concern, unless one would be facing Antarctica-like conditions of -70 air temp. or something.

Still, with temperatures from -10 up to around 20 (-23 to -7 Celsius), just breathing heavily in that air would have me coughing, spitting, blowing my nose. Not all the time, and some of those winter runs were really great - silent country roads, snowflakes drifting down.... But enough that you saying "5°F" made me think of it right away.



"Frozen Lung" is a myth. Lungs are fine. I didn't even cover my mouth this morning, and felt just fine running 7 miles, although next time I run in those temps I will need more insulation in my.....erm....privates region. Just sayin'

Some of the guys had hand warmers, but I find that after a mile or two your hands and feet feel fine. What was interesting was how frost formed all over everybody with water evaporation.

With lows expected down to around zero tonight I am more worried about my Cabernet Sauvignon vine!


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RE: Brrr - 12/7/2013 9:06:19 PM   
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Was 11 degrees this morning - very unusual for western Washington.

NPR had a story yesterday on the cold weather affecting vines at Pepper Bridge in Walla Walla. Think it may be even colder tonight.



We visited WWV in '11 after the big freeze when a lot of blocks were being cut back to the roots. Down in the teens for several nights in the WV as well. Early freezes are more damaging it seems. 57F a week ago!

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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 7:18:07 AM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 7:54:51 AM   
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Forecast high = 30F
Forecast low = 30F

I'll second Joe's WTF?

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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 8:13:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Supposedly we have somewhere between a 4-8 hour window today where we will barely nose over the freezing point. Hopefully it'll melt off some of the ice before it re-freezes overnight.

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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 8:21:41 AM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 8:54:13 AM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 9:05:08 AM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 9:09:11 AM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 9:15:00 AM   
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Supposedly we have somewhere between a 4-8 hour window today where we will barely nose over the freezing point. Hopefully it'll melt off some of the ice before it re-freezes overnight.


Hopefully I will get out of the house today. Secondary roads have been a sheet of ice for 3 days but I am guessing the main roads are moveable. Rumors the sun will come out this afternoon - that should help a bunch.

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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 11:18:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just spent an hour with a shovel breaking up just enough ice in my driveway so that I could move PURPLE's car out of the way in case we need to get out. Hopefully it'll melt enough by mid afternoon that I can go to the store and see if there are any provisions left. We're running low at this point.

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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 11:20:39 AM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 12:15:46 PM   
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Are you SERIOUS????????!!!

WRs need skis and the defensive line can hardly stand up, let alone get near a QB...

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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 12:18:54 PM   
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The early game showing live on UK TV is Lions @ Eagles.

Are you SERIOUS????????!!!

WRs need skis and the defensive line can hardly stand up, let alone get near a QB...

K


I am watching it in disbelief. We played in conditions like that as kids, but we all sucked at the game. Crazy 6-10 inches of snow.

Meanwhile we sit just below freezing here.

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RE: Brrr - 12/8/2013 1:57:56 PM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 4:09:20 AM   
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It was 19F when I got up this morning, very cold for us northwesterners who are used to more mild (wet!) weather. Extremely dry, to the point of leaving me feeling dehydrated.


Wow, that is super cold for the Seattle area. I don't think the temp ever dropped below 31F when I lived there.

Unfortunately around here they are predicting high winds to accompany our recent snowfall, so the roads and paths will be crap. Might be a good day to just stay inside.

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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 11:33:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, the only reason our decorative fountain didn't freeze last night was because the wind was blowing (gusts to 60). And we live in southern California. What the heck is going on?

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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 3:53:27 PM   
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Jeez, it is cold & a half…

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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 3:57:38 PM   
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Well, the only reason our decorative fountain didn't freeze last night was because the wind was blowing (gusts to 60). And we live in southern California. What the heck is going on?

Global warming.

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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 4:01:53 PM   
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Well, the only reason our decorative fountain didn't freeze last night was because the wind was blowing (gusts to 60). And we live in southern California. What the heck is going on?

Global warming.

The folks in the southern hemisphere must be burning up!

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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 4:07:19 PM   
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14°F (-10°C) here in flyover-country.

Jeez, it is cold & a half…

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Heading to Missouri today. What is wrong with your weather? It's seems a bit too cold to be liveable.

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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 5:26:35 PM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 5:37:28 PM   
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Heading to Missouri today.


Missouri loves company.

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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 5:52:14 PM   
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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 6:06:44 PM   
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I blame El Niño.



I blame S1 and the Floridians - they have been hoarding the heat lately.

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RE: Brrr - 12/9/2013 6:49:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Been watching the temperature drop almost 15 degrees since dusk. Now in (-) temps which is nervous for me, as my vinifera vines don't take too kindly to those temps. My other vines should be just fine.

Didn't think this was an El Nina or La Nina year, but rather a more normal year.

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