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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 1/1/2009 4:32:25 AM

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Eric

Thanks - I do like the functionality - I was overseas in South Africa and France for a week until last night and had signed on to record some purchases (of course) and thought it was some new international option.

Works well
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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 1/31/2009 7:28:12 AM

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Eric,

I don't want to be the rain on the autocomplete parade, but is there a way to turn it off? It really does not help me, although I am happy that it helps others. I find the self-populated lists (e.g., the store where you bought something on the purchase page) to be more than adequate for virtually all purposes -- as it would be for the credit card option I posted a few minutes ago. If not, no worries, I will just have to learn to hit esc faster and more accurately.

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 1/31/2009 8:48:30 AM

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I am not opposed to adding an on/off switch, although I keep hearing more and more people who love the feature and assume it was always there. (In a usability test the other day 4 of 7 people mentioned this unaided.)

The thing is, if I add a switch it will be for ALL controls. You won't be able to pick and choose which edit controls get completion and which do not.

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 2/8/2009 2:03:33 PM

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I just made some tuneups to the dropdown:

Now all browsers (including IE) have a small "close" hyperlink at the lower right of the menu. I finally figured out what the issue was with my attempt to put this in IE.
I fixed a glitch where there was a small, empty item in the list.
Now when using the arrow keys you cannot select the "close" choice. If your goal is to dismiss from the keyboard just hit ESCAPE.
Now there is no distracting flash as an empty menu builds and then hides itself when typing your first keystroke.
I turned off debugging the status bar text showing the searches getting fired off.

Some of these changes will only get to your machine if you do a full refresh or clear your cache. None were major enough to make me want to deploy a newly named Javascript file, and eventually everyone's browser cache will get the new one. If you want the changes clear your cache or press SHIFT and click the REFRESH key.

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 2/26/2009 3:49:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: Eric

OK, now this appears in more places. When adding or editing a purchase the Store, Location and Bin dropdowns now all show the automatic filter dropdown as well based on all existing stores, locations and bins. In the case of these since it is only looking at your own private data it kicks in after you type just one character. Frankly it works so nicely it makes me wonder if I can/should remove all of the dropdown controls, but first I want to see how this works on older browsers. Pretty nice stuff though and relatively easy to extend to more dropdowns. Expect to see this in a lot more places on the site.

Any quriks, bugs or gripes please let me know.

I'm late to this parade but it has been bugging me since it was implemented. The "AJAX" for the bins is ENTIRELY frustrating. My bins are one and two digit numbers so having the list drop down actually slows me down quite a bit. Can you up that to 5 character like the searches??? Also on the searches while I like it one annoying issue is that it erases whatever vintage I may have typed. Any work around there?

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 2/26/2009 4:36:29 PM

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Can you give me a specific example where you are typing a vintage and it is clearing it?

Right now the site is a little quirky under the covers with regard to full-text searches and vintages. I added a special code in a lot (but not all yet) cases to add the vintage to the dropdown. Eventually I am going to rearchitect the full tetx search around vintages and then will be able to have a universal solution. Meanwhile, what specific search in what specific edit control and what vintage?

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 2/26/2009 4:45:53 PM

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Nothing specific, all of them. For instance I type in 2006 Guigal Condrieu. There is no drop down on '2006' but it does start after 5 letters are typed. If I scroll down and make a selection my vintage goes away though revealing the whole list of possible vintages of the wine of the search terms. That example is clearly superfluous but when I am searching for an unknown or trying to narrow searches when I have the vitnage it can be bothersome.

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 2/26/2009 11:35:35 PM

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In the search control at upper left? Is it set on all wines your just your own? What is the search focus in the dropdown? Wine, Wine in stock, purchases?

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 2/27/2009 2:02:34 PM

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Yes, upper left search, does the same for all wines or mine. 'Wine in Stock'.

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 3/1/2009 11:25:29 AM

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What exactly are you typing in the search control at upper left? Are you typing the vintage first or last? When I type a vintage for my wine in stock it totally works--the dropdown shifts to show all wines with vintages, that is included in the search term etc.

In other words, I can't reproduce your issue, so I need some more specific help to see what you are hitting.

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 3/30/2009 8:05:12 PM

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I think the Ajax autocomplete feature is inevitable given the way it has become ubiquitous elsewhere. But the current implementation doesn't seem quite right. If I'm typing very fast, which is most of the time, it's really common for me to unwittingly end up with the first thing on the list selected and searched, when what I really wanted was to type my own query and not be bothered. For me, Google's implementation of this is far less disruptive. I just went and compared them and here's the difference I see.

In CellarTracker, you have to click on the search field to enter a query there. Quite typically, I let go of the mouse at this point and it ends up lurking somewhere just under this field. When I start typing and CT generates a list of queries, it notices that the mouse is within this query window and picks the closest entry as select now by default. This is despite the fact that I haven't actually moved the mouse since I started typing. It also means that if I press return on my own search query, it will get overwritten with the one CT has now selected from this list based on my mouse proximity.

In Google, when I start typing a search query the search engine ignores the position of my mouse and no suggested query gets auto-selected by default. Its only if I then nudge or move the mouse that Google reads its location and selects the nearest query accordingly.

My suggestion would be to change CT's behavior here to that of Google, and only pay attention to the mouse location if it is moved after the start of the entry of a search query.

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RE: v 3.10.9 - now with AJAX - 3/30/2009 8:35:05 PM

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Slaton, thank you for the very detailed and eloquent feedback. I have hit that behavior too and find it annoying. My goal is indeed to be just like Google. The good news is that as I work on my site redesign I am moving to use a standard scripting platform (JQuery) which has an AMAZING assemblage of scripts people have written. There are dozens of seemingly rock solid autocomplete ones, so I will test around and move to that. I am not sure if I will be tweaking with the one on the current site at all, since I am basically full bore on the new thing now and having to maintain both the old and new site. But I will keep an eye on it and if there is an easy way for me to tweak the current one I will.

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