2004 Bodega Numanthia Toro Numanthia

Tinta de Toro

Giggs wrote: 91 points

November 1, 2013 - Breeders' Cup XXX; 11/1/2013-11/2/2013: Decanted 4 hours. Spicy, cedary nose, the expected heavily-oaked profile, but it doesn't bring the anticipated power. Same on the palate: lacks the power you'd associate with this label. Up front there's good dark fruit edged with black licorice and smoke, but the fruit concentration falls off considerably in late palate and finish. While I don't think this is in a dumb phase, I do think a few more years will improve it by letting some of the oak integrate.

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Harley1199 commented:

11/4/13, 2:08 PM - I don't know when to drink this bottle either
Sincerely speaking and after the initial punch of the first years, this 2004 is an incognita
I have a tasting event of this winery in a few weeks. I shall ask for...
Cheers!
Giggs commented:

11/4/13, 2:27 PM - Harley1199: Yes, it's an interesting one. My prediction would be somewhere around 2017 will see it drinking nicely, the thinking being that the oak will have receded just enough to balance with the maximum amount of fruit. That being said, as others here have noted, it's presently an overrated wine. I hope your winery tasting proves to be insightful!
Harley1199 commented:

11/4/13, 3:19 PM - Basically agreed, dear Giggs.
I've plans for the next 2018.
Very complicated to close a drinking window for this bottle... I think so.
Anyway Toro style is masculine and pure terroir expression. In elder times it was very usual to dilute it with water...did you try Termanthia? It is the real big brother of Numanthia...
Finally, overrated? Again I have to agree. You know, when a monster like Moet & Chandon (LVMH) buy a small winery like this, scores are unreal.
Cheers!