Community Tasting Note

• sirpat00 wrote: 91 points

  August 23, 2018 - Decanted approx. 1h but clearly 2-4h would have been better as the wine appeared closed initiaolly and only opened up marginally during the 1h the bottle was consumed. The nose is dominated by blackcurrent and very (too) greenish herbs and menthol or mint. Clearly full bodied but with tannins that are still pretty rough. Otherwise a fruit centered palate that one of the ladies at the dinner enjoyed very much. I could imagine there is more potential once tannins melt with increasing bottle age, but I'm fearing this may take quite a while before we know if there is more hidden underneath. Would very much like to compare to the Howell Mountain sibling once.

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5 Comments

• Mark1npt commented:

  8/24/18, 9:48 AM - lol...think of the Howell Mtn as having more/darker fruit and less shrubbery!

• kosdogger commented:

  8/24/18, 10:05 AM - I really enjoyed this one side by side to How Mt at the vineyard this summer. Both were great but I preferred Vedeer (as did my crew)

• sirpat00 commented:

  8/26/18, 4:57 AM - Thanks both, useful feedback. Interesting how expert views are quite far apart on this one ranging from 84 (Decanter) to 96 (Parker / Galloni).

• Mark1npt commented:

  8/26/18, 6:49 AM - kos.....yes, they re both very, very good. I would venture to say that the Howell Mtn tends to drink younger and with more mountain-like fruit whereas, the Veeder has better longer aging potential with a much different end point. My preference is the Veeder, too. Just MO. Again, they are both very good.

• Mark1npt commented:

  8/26/18, 7:50 AM - sirpat....I am at a loss as to explain why there are such diverse and wide-ranging scores, not only from the experts but from us mortals on CT, also.
  My only explanation for this is either somebody opened a marginally bad bottle and didn't fully realize it as such (which I have done many times and still drank it anyway) or as in the case with past BDX, with poor cellar practices, just got a bad bottle but having paid so much for it reviewed it badly out of spite.
  
  There are a few reliable CT brethren on here, whose palates are close to mine and I've come to trust them regularly, and like him or not, Parker, I've found to be the closest to my palate reliably with his scores. He also seems to have trained Lisa Perotti Brown well to follow in his footsteps. Galloni goes out of his way to be just a little different. Neil Martin is a hard-ass and was never a good match at WA and the others like Suckling and Dunnuck are just way off the mark so often I can't reliably purchase based on their take of it. And forget Wine Enthusiast or Wine Spectator scores, they are so biased based on their advertisers, they can't be trusted.

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