Community Tasting Note
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greedy wrote: 89 points
November 25, 2018 - Not bad but not worth $190 cad. Most distinguishing feature of this wine is the super tannins. Not enough fruit for me. I still have only had a few really good Bordeaux. I don’t get it yet...
Top end Napa cabs are way better.3 people found this helpful 6,778 views
6 Comments
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Hanibal commented:
11/25/18, 7:49 AM - parsing through ur ratings it shows u have more affinity to the more extracted type of reds. You dont have to like bordeaux everyone has their own wine types that they like however be aware your taste buds change with time so try a few old bordeaux every once in a while maybe you will see the light lol ;) .... cheers
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greedy commented:
11/25/18, 8:01 AM - I agree. I keep stocking the cellar with Bordeaux and burgundy in anticipation of where my taste buds will be in 20 years. I go through stages where I like Brunello and other wines. But always end up back in Napa!
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Hanibal commented:
11/25/18, 8:09 AM - it is rough switching from napa cabs to left bank bordeaux. You will probably appreciate more wines from St emilion or pomerol. Issan is very stern and st estephe and margaux are not extracted wines. U probably could like more a wine like Clinet its right up ur alley.
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Motz commented:
11/25/18, 8:31 AM - Agreed. Saint-Emilion, especially the modernly styled examples, are the gateway from Napa to Left Bank. Many Pomerol wines, IMO, can be quite rustic, particularly on account of the clay (terroir), and Pomerol producers tend to use less lumber than in Saint-Emilion.
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Wine G commented:
11/27/18, 10:16 AM - Agree with the others...you may find St Emilion more attractive than some of left bank. While they grow merlot grape and Cab franc, it's different there.
In general, you will come around. The Bordeaux exhibit more freshness and lift , in general. Napa, more ripe. The expensive napa wines over $100 and higher, sure most will be excellent and hopefully not overripe, but I would put up most 2nd growth Bordeaux you can get in the $50-75 range versus most napa cabs in that same price range.
check out some 2015's also , as the more recent vintages seem to have some more new world characteristics. Try and seek some of these out: Canon la Gaff (or his 3rd wine, Clos de l'oratoire), Valandraud (or their 2nd wine Virginie), or maybe beau sejour becot. those are good St Emilion options -
Wine G commented:
6/6/19, 10:55 PM - This. What I is saying above. He is on point.
More freshness with Bordeaux vs Napa. More aromatics, lighter palate. New world takes longer for the aromatics to emerge and won’t be as robust as Bordeaux, but the palate is much riper and usually more rich. Bordeaux overall has More options that are reasonably priced , 2nd-5th growth even the super seconds around $100 in some cases.
You can also get really good Napa cabs, Merlot, can franc for $50-100 , but you have to find the gems.
St Emilion is probably the gateway for a new world lover to dip the toe
Try:
Clos de l’oratoire (2nd wine to canon la gaff) $40-45
Canon la gaff -$85ish depending vintage
Virginie valandraud $45 (2nd wine for Valandraud)
Good luck.