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2004 Bodega Numanthia Toro Numanthia

Tinta de Toro

  • Spain
  • Castilla y León
  • Toro

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  • oldwines wrote: 90 points

    May 25, 2019 - Decanted at 5:30 and tasted through the evening. Deep dark, almost opaque garnet with a crimson edge. Spicy, vanilla, oak, alcohol, non-descript dark fruit. Decidedly modern in style and like most wines dominated by Tempranillo (in my view) wholly one dimensional in that it lacks layers and depth. I keep giving them a try but am consistently disappointed. Clearly a big wine but rather “brutish” and lacking in nuance. Fine with a big grilled steak but overall un-interesting, though by no means “bad” and I guess stylistically consistent.

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  • Mhbeaune commented:

    5/25/19, 10:10 PM - whilst I would agree with "one dimensional" I certainly whole heartily agree with with you overall theme especially about the Tempranillo being "brutish" when in the wrong hands which I had never really thought of.
    Great tasting note.

  • oldwines commented:

    5/26/19, 10:36 AM - By one dimensional I mean there is one rather simple flavor profile , maybe with more than one flavor but it lacks layers and depth. I have found relatively few wines that are 80% or more Tempranillo that are not "one dimensional". A wine that is about 70% tempranillo that is not one dimensional is Lopez de Heredia' Rioja's...if you peruse their website you will see a quote from the winemaker that even says something similar. It seems to me that it needs to be blended with Garnacha or Maxuelo or Monastrell, etc to have the kind of depth and layers with age that show up readily in 100% Cabernet, Pinot Noir or Nebbiolo for example. I feel pretty much the same way about Barbera from Piemonte, Italy. Only a couple winemakers have been able to make wine from that grape more than one dimensional. Just what I've experienced...

  • Harley1199 commented:

    5/26/19, 2:15 PM - Yeah, Oldwines ... Tempranillo by its own has been training your palate for so long. Deep experience indeed.
    According with CT only 8 TNs. Specifically about Toro wines are represented by no more than two. But you are an experimented Tempranillo taster. Exactly. And Brutus is an honourable man.
    Maybe you are just trying to translate your personal taste into what Tempranillo represents. That's not very fair.
    By the way Bordeaux also blend CS or Merlot with another varieties successfully. What's the matter?
    G' luck

  • oldwines commented:

    5/26/19, 4:08 PM - Was not referencing Bordeaux and yes Cab is also blended in that case. I have been collecting wine and drinking it for nearly 4 decades, only been doing notes on everything I drink recently. I have had many, many Tempranillo wines over the years and, for me, it is not in the top tier and unless blended is very one dimensional. IMHO

  • Harley1199 commented:

    5/27/19, 5:21 AM - Alright ... I see the weight of your arguments. Really humble opinion.
    May I insist? G'luck

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