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• Geoff Likes this wine: 93 points

  August 18, 2019 - Really nice wine with Beautiful lilting nose of both red and dark fruit, faint smoke, oak, medium to full bodied, sweet balanced tannins, long finish. Very enjoyable.

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• Mark1npt commented:

  8/19/19, 10:17 AM - Geoff, your experience with this bottle sounds a lot like mine. Was curious though if you found the nose to drop off rapidly as I did with my bottle which had little to no flavor when first pnp'd. Taste rose quickly, much better in an hour but the nose which was great on opening almost completely disappeared.

• Geoff commented:

  8/19/19, 12:24 PM - Mark, Not my experience at all. I like to give the younger Carlisles a little air, so I slo oxed this bottle for about 4 hours before consumption. The nose was medium to strong from the git go and remained throughout the evening meal. I have found the 2016zinfandels to be the best that Mike has ever made. All of them very enjoyable and easy to drink with very high quality. What has been your experience?

• Mark1npt commented:

  8/19/19, 2:42 PM - lol....go back and look at my Papera review form last month...it was literally the most brett wine I've ever had. Like battery acid at times. I've never had an issue with the 13's 14's or 15's from Mike, but the Papera had to just be a bad bottle. I've got 2-3 of the Papera left. If any others are bad, I'm going to contact him for replacement. I still scored this Carlisle 92, but like I said in the review if the nose and palate were in sync it could have been a 96.

• Geoff commented:

  8/25/19, 5:13 AM - Mark, I had to try the 2016 Papera and I did over several days. Not at all to my liking. The major flaw I found was an over powering green, leafy, stemmy, chlorophyl note, which has never appealed to me. I notice Mike seems to like this, especially in his syrah based wines. He uses a lot of whole cluster fermentation in the Syrahs and not so much in the zins. I didn't notice any brett though. Perhaps a bad bottle.

• Mark1npt commented:

  8/25/19, 7:02 AM - Geoff.....I appreciate your candid review of this wine. I really don't think Mike intended for your bottle (albeit different from mine) to reflect what you found it to be either. My concern is that there are a number of tainted bottles of this out there. I have 2-3 Papera left and while I'd like to let them sit for a year or two, part of me wants to know NOW, if they are bad or not so I can get them replaced by Mike. I may have to Coravin another bottle in the next few weeks and see if I get the same result. If I do, I'm just going to contact him for replacement. I have NEVER had a bad bottle from him nor a bottle of his wine that I didn't like. From what you are describing, I wouldn't have liked your bottle either. Mark

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