Community Tasting Note
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Reinoudoor wrote: flawed
August 25, 2021 - Returned my whole case (also of 2013 and 2015) because they were not filtered correctly/fully. Very unfortunate because was looking forward to them.
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quistz commented:
8/31/21, 3:10 PM - Curious to know more detail from you on this. What indicated a problem with filtration?
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MauriceE commented:
9/4/21, 10:28 PM - These bottles always have a small residu. Just put the bottle straight-up a couple of hours before pooring the wine or decant carefully (through a fine strainer/sifter if you want to drink all the wine). The residu does not affect the taste or smell at all.
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quistz commented:
9/5/21, 1:34 AM - Was/ am hoping to give reviewer the benefit of the doubt on this and not imagine that they returned such wines because of that kind of a misunderstanding.
Or hoping to find out if said bottles were returned in my area… XD -
Reinoudoor commented:
9/5/21, 3:03 AM - I returned them in agreement with the seller/producer. I did not receive any details except for that the filtration was flawed and that the substance was not harmful.
This is not residu I have seen before (tried to add photos so you can see and draw your own conclusion but I keep getting an error). Feel free to drop your email so I can send them. Will try later here.
PS With my Toscana IGT I never experienced this residu issue. -
Billy Swan commented:
1/24/22, 12:21 AM - I've had the same problem with several bottles of this wine in this vintage. This is not regular sediment. It's quite different in both colour and feel. And yes, it gives the wine a different taste and fragrance than the bottles that do not contain it.
Never had this trouble with any other wine from this producer. Something clearly went wrong. Good on you for returning. -
Reinoudoor commented:
1/24/22, 12:43 AM - Thank you Billy, also for sharing!
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Billy Swan commented:
1/24/22, 11:54 PM - You too, be good!
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mackie5 commented:
7/26/22, 2:53 PM - Montevertine does not filter its wines at all, which you can confirm on its website and on the website of its US importer, Rosenthal, so I can't understanding what exactly it is about the wine that is being complained of here.
Opening one of these tonight. -
Billy Swan commented:
7/26/22, 3:42 PM - I’ve had quite a few bottles of Montevertine different wines; le Pergole Torte, the IGT and Pian de Ciampolo. I have never seen sediment in any of these wines come even close to the sediment in the Pian de Ciampolo 2016. The sediment looks like normal sediment that has spent time swimming in milk. It’s pinkish and slimey. Quite frankly, I’ve never seen this kind of sediment in any bottle of wine I have had. The only one coming close was the Calabretta Nerello Mascalese 2006. But the sediment in two of those bottles was firm matter, not like slime.
Hoping you get a better bottle @mackie5 -
Reinoudoor commented:
7/26/22, 11:26 PM - Mackie5 did you even read the comments above?
I think the producer (and community members with experience with these wines) can judge whether the wine was flawed or not. Next time I’d be happy to send them to you if you promise to drink them ;) -
mackie5 commented:
7/27/22, 8:03 AM - Reinoudoor,
I confess I did miss Billy Swan’s description, due to the way my browser displayed the comments, and I apologize. I was relying only on your initial description of the wine as flawed because unfiltered, which it obviously is by intention. Presumably you summoned greater powers of description in persuading the producer in Italy to accept return of cases from several vintages.
As for experience with these wines, I have a bit. My notes (begun on the flyleaf of Hugh Johnson’s 1985 pocket guide, which was then too big to fit in any pocket) show that my first Montevertine was the 1981 Chianti Classico reserva – this was before Sergio Manetti decided to pull the estate out of the Consorzio. (It says I paid $10.99 – which was actually a steep price then. I see I paid only two dollars more for the Tignanello of the same year. Not that I am any fan of French grapes in Sangiovese….). Since 1997 I have had some bottles of most vintages of Montevertine.
Last night I pulled the 2015 Pian d. c., as unlike 2016 I had not tasted it, and you had returned that vintage as well. The wine was dark and needed time to open – to be expected. Lacking the grace of the 2016, or the lift and verve of some other 2015s – Fontodi or Castellare’s Poggiale – with a very very slight roasted nuance. What we would have called a masculine wine in days when one could talk like that. There was the tiniest fleck of dark sediment at the bottom, not large enough to cover this last word. Luck of the draw….