1/29/23, 1:59 AM - This is really one of the great wines from 1982 and usual kills Petrus 1982. Still a relative bargain for these rare mind bending, ethereal wine moments!
10/19/22, 1:56 AM - I just had the 1971 Monfortino last week and I definitely thought it wasn't ready which is hard to comprehend after 51 years! Still lots of fruit and life in the wine but the tannins were still there and holding it all together like a straightjacket!
12/16/20, 12:45 AM - William, I agree with you on the old, great vintages of Montrose. I love the Montrose terroir but if you really want the next generation of wine drinker to appreciate Montrose advocating how delicious the 1929 and 1961 is (and I have had them) is hardly the way to go about it. "If you buy a great Montrose and keep it for 91 years, it will start to be delicious drinking..."Also, Montrose should have had more than just 6 or 7 great vintages in the 20th century given its great terroir. I think the change in ownership in 2006 was a good thing and with Herve Berland joining from Mouton in 2011 there was a clear acknowledgement that Montrose needed to pick riper and more forward (a very relative term for this property). No one wants a Bordeaux fruit bomb but surely a bit more elegance, better tannin management and quite frankly a bit more fun would hardly go amiss. Just look at the evolution of Cos (2016 being first growth quality) and the evolution of Calon Segur over the last 10 vintages. These are two of the most exciting properties in St. Estephe.I don't want to see Montrose relegated to a chateau that made amazing relics of the 20th century but to go from strength to strength in the 21st. I have a feeling they will!
12/17/20, 12:26 AM - Really appreciate the good and civilized discussion here! Long may it continue. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and to many good bottles shared with family and friends (in a socially distant and responsible way) over the holiday period.
8/3/20, 3:30 AM - 164 edition of the GC is indeed fantastic but needing more time in the cellar to really show its pedigree. However, vintage Krug in the top years is really hard to beat. It also is a much better investment with the 96 Krug I bought on release at US$220/bt now trading at US$400 (net to seller at auction). I don't think you can get this type of return on many wines which you can buy in significant quantity. It allows me to grow my Krug collection! Buy three cases, sell 1 case and recycle the cash into other Krug. Use to be able to that with Bordeaux but now the pricing is completely wrong with owners demanding the same price as older vintages with the same points!
6/27/20, 9:24 AM - Sadly the wine has not improved since you have tasted it. See my recent tasting note.
3/22/20, 8:50 PM - I like Pichon Baron a lot in 08- slightly more approachable than in the “great” vintages. At the end, wine is a beverage and it is for drinking! Need to drink more right now to get through this virus madness! Stay well everyone.
3/10/20, 5:46 AM - Why would you give a 53 year old wine a 10 hour decant or was that a typo in your note? 1 hour or straight PnP would surely be more than enough for such an old and delicate Barolo...
3/14/20, 8:28 AM - Very interesting to hear this and appreciate the tip! My drinking experience is more with older Bordeaux and Burgundy.
1/4/20, 2:10 AM - I have stopped buying Leflaive wines as I have flushed too many $300+ bottles down the drain due to their systematic problems with premox. Totally unacceptable and the Domaine won’t recognize what so many of us have experienced. Feel bad for you but suggest you try other producers who are using better winemaking skills to give you a clean and fresh bottle of wine! I have warned many of my friends off Leflaive and it is the only way to get the message through to them- stop selling and we should stop buying defective wine!
11/18/19, 7:26 AM - At last someone calling this winemaker out. His wines all trend towards the acidic, lean and dilute. Apologists call it traditional and ultra vibrant but that is just being diplomatic. His Jura wines are just unprintable!
7/18/19, 10:59 PM - I bought an OWC case from a NY collection and it has been an amazing buy and delicious drinking. Great levels and provenance are important as always!
5/12/19, 8:37 AM - It is a bit depressing that your first thought when opening a $500 bottle of wine is that it is actually drinkable! Have been so annoyed with ruined/premoxed Leflaive wines that I have stopped buying them after more than 20 years of buying on release.
10/17/18, 2:05 AM - I have 4 cases of this bought on release and the 8 bottles I have drunk so far have been out of this world. This is one of the great vintages of Krug so I think you might have some bad bottles as this wine attracts one of the highest average community scores with 394 comments! I am sorry you aren’t experiencing what we all have been.
9/9/18, 4:00 AM - You do realize that the best plots of Petrus were acquired from Gazinin the late 60s so any Gazin before then is like a mini Petrus. I have had the 1928 Gazin and it is stunningly good. A very privileged experience indeed! Glad you had a good bottle!
9/3/18, 4:54 AM - The bottle and label might indeed be real and it has instead been refilled with an imitation blend of Vosne wines from a similar era. Might be worth posting the label to see if anyone in the community has come across the bottle or it can be identified who sold it.
8/18/18, 7:24 AM - Even when bought on release this wine was never $20/ bt! What was the source? Closing down sale of a wine merchant or a friend liquidating his stock? I bought a six pack on release from Corney and Barrow, the exclusive UK distributor in March 1999 at $200/ bt so maybe a typo in your note?
8/19/18, 9:48 PM - I wonderful wine story and great way to enjoy the wine!
7/29/18, 11:06 PM - Most 2000 are overrated and you will get more bang for your buck from the 2001s which are excellent.
7/1/18, 7:38 PM - I am with you. Perfect drinking at the moment!
6/12/18, 6:52 AM - We were at the same dinner and totally agree this wine was a bit harsh and over extracted and not pleasurable.
6/10/18, 7:44 AM - Wow, not sure a Stanley Cup final was the most relaxing evening for quiet contemplation of one of world’s greatest wines. Sorry to see the problems with the white flight. The DRC montie is also not really to my taste. Aubert served his 08 Batard when he came to HK earlier this year and it is also extremely exotic, boardering on over the top! Great notes throughout the evening!!
6/9/18, 12:53 AM - Agree with you if is a bit of an acid mouthwash at the moment. Needs 5 years to integrate?
6/9/18, 12:44 AM - I agree that the 04 vintage is a little too acidic and aggressive at this stage but the experts are saying it is a modern day 88 so wait 5 years and instead drink the 98 or 00 Krug which is drinking fantastically.
6/2/18, 8:18 AM - He is a master in the “weaker” vintages and provides relatively good QPR in this crazy world of burgundy speculation! I loved the case I have and have 5 of 12 left. Delicious stuff!
6/2/18, 6:31 AM - I think you sadly had an affected bottle as my experience of this wine is that it is exceptionally young and one of the top left bank wines of 1989. Try again soon!
6/1/18, 6:04 AM - Glad you are also having a great time with this wine. Thankfully you are also in agreement!!
6/1/18, 5:59 AM - I think it is sad to wait so long to drink a champagne that is already 23 years old. At least one or two bottles every year is surely the way to go!
5/27/18, 7:33 AM - Thought they only bottled in magnums from 2008 onwards?
5/27/18, 8:20 PM - Good to know and hope he is doing well. Saw him in HK in February for a wonderful, intimate lunch where we went through 6 of the range finishing off with a sublime RC 1996. I know soon after 2009 he went to bottling only in mags for commercial sale but perhaps he keeps some larger formats for entertaining and business use! Will ask him and get back to you.
6/1/18, 5:50 AM - Yep, no bottles bigger than magnum available for sale from 2008 onwards. The 2009 must have come directly from the Domaine’s reserves. Nice one!
5/27/18, 7:50 AM - 89 was the hottest year of that decade! Perhaps not like 2009 but somehow they managed to tame the heat and alcohol a bit better than in say 2003 and 2009.
5/27/18, 7:39 AM - I agree that the 06 Salon is surprisingly open for business and much more approachable than the 96. Almost a differ style of wine making now, less austere!
5/5/18, 4:51 AM - I don’t know if time will help. My worry is the wine is slightly forced and over extracted and this is not something that improves over time although it will be less obvious. For me Pomerol is about silkyness, great plum, dark fruit, spice and soil notes. The Clinet now made by Ronan is trying to do too much. I have mentioned this to him and he acknowledges that he was perhaps pushing things a bit too much partly to show his father what he could do and ‘elevate’ the wine to the next level. I think he has dialed back the extraction in his later vintages and I want to like his wines. Classic young gun trying to do too much and then realizing the old man wasn’t doing such a bad job after all! Definitely a property to keep an eye on!
3/4/18, 2:42 AM - Have to agree with you. Was a standout a en primeur and it is a distinct wine but of the highest quality. Many professional critics seemed unhappy with this wine which seemed to be about it being untypical or lacking in terroir or some other subjective moan but there is no doubting the unforgettable nature of a balanced, delicious and monumental Cos! Rarely seen you rate a 100 so that is saying something!!
1/23/18, 4:57 PM - Generally agree with you on the 86s which have really never given any pleasure unlike the 85s! I have two 86s to recommend- Lynch Bages and Pichon Lalande. These are about the only 86s I have in my cellar and they are finally coming around! I think the 86 Cos will eventually soften. Perhaps the 86s will be seen as a modern day 1929 which were undrinkable for about 40 years! I have 48 bottles of Cos 86 in the cellar so I hope I am right!,
12/27/17, 9:20 PM - The 96 Krug is in an amazing place at the moment. Great note and I also noted the red currant and pomegranate notes which is quite mind boggling for a white wine!
12/20/17, 10:52 PM - Agree that the 06s are proving very hard and tannic. Modern day 86?
12/18/17, 10:15 PM - Also love the 01 (particularly the right bank) and 04s. Even the 07 is like a more modern 97. Balance and elegance is the essence of Bordeaux. If I wanted an exaggerated wine, I know where to find them but I don't enjoy drinking them!
12/2/17, 3:09 AM - So not overly impressed with PC! I had the 2006 last night and it was very strange, it had a grainy texture as if there was super fine extract still in the wine and it was also so tannic as to be undrinkable!
12/2/17, 8:53 AM - Let's catch up in the new year! Look forward to a proper catch up!
12/2/17, 3:06 AM - I think it is a good 5 years away from first drinking window given its acidity and tightness. Try the 2000 Krug which is very open and hendonistic right now and far more approachable. If you really want to splash out then the 1996 is one of the best champagnes of the lot!
10/13/17, 1:34 AM - Agree with you. I think your score is too generous given you state it is eclipsed by the 2002 and yet you score it the same! The 2004 is a bit of an acid bomb right now which is what I assume you are diplomatically hinting at...
8/21/17, 5:58 AM - I doubt a wine from this great estate in a great year for right bank wines is coming to the end of its drinking window after 16 years! It is more likely to be sleeping or you have a bad bottle as Trotanoy is one of the longest lasting of the wines from Pomerol. Try the 75, 78, 82 or 85 to get an ideal of the longevity of Trotanoy.
8/24/17, 8:21 PM - Fingers crossed for all of us. I am quiet a fan of 2001 and in particular the right bank. I often find them out performing many 2000s which I feel was over-hyped by the owners and over-priced for the underlying quality. So many 2000s are still quite unyielding and lacking in pleasure even after all these years! Happy drinking to all!!
8/5/17, 8:04 PM - Stunning stuff and reasonable pricing upon release. Sure to appreciate and drink well as time goes on. Bought a lot of this vintage!
7/4/17, 8:35 PM - Sounds like a strange bottle? Shouldn't be bricking at 11 years. Did you shake it around like a F1 driver to celebrate something?!
6/1/17, 2:24 AM - It was completely correct. Just a better bottle than the 20+ times I have had this wine given it is a vintage from around my vintage. To be honest the Latour 70 has a bigger reputation than it deserves. It has always been a bit of a brute and it is not the most pleasurable of wines. However, you won't forget drinking it for its in your face tannic structure and power.
3/4/17, 6:17 PM - Is that you Feng?!
3/5/17, 8:16 PM - Your friendly Eurasian lawyer who keeps seeing you at random tastings and dinners...
3/4/17, 6:10 PM - Sounds like a great party! Celebrating my wife's 50th and have 4 bottles of this and hope that it is still as good as you have described it. Believe Mouton is the wine of the vintage for red Bordeaux in 67!
1/29/17, 11:04 PM - Do you think it is Girardin that is just not making the most of the terroir or is it this patch of Corton that is not truly great GC terroir? Got mine at about $60/bt which isn't too bad but certainly not compelling QPR. Might have to gift them to friends and clients!
1/7/17, 1:19 AM - You should get your dealer to take it back. The 75 is surprisingly disappointing.
1/7/17, 12:25 AM - Hope you enjoyed it!
12/11/16, 3:18 AM - I have tasted wine from barrels and en primeur for 25 years. My concern is the lack of underlying fruit and the resulting lack of balance. Certainly can leave it longer and then have well aged acid to drink. 15 was a wonder year in Burgundy and the Jura and if this is as good as it gets then it is a bit worrying. Still early days for the owner to master the tricky terroir and will be rooting for him to make a tougher selection, improve the quality and depth of the fruit. Then the acidic uplift will have something to meld around . There is a reason why Jura is not (yet) famous for its non vin jaune wines.
10/10/16, 3:34 AM - The 1990 Cheval just has that exoticness and wildness which is so seductive. Hard night of drinking choosing between these two wines!
10/10/16, 3:31 AM - Agreed. Just found the 86LB is just starting to open up and be enjoyable! Classic Paulliac and classic LB. Enjoy!
8/28/16, 3:55 AM - What price did they offer them to you?
8/28/16, 7:07 AM - Sorry to hear that and certainly not being offered at too good to be true prices.
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