10/12/23, 7:41 AM - We all have several burn marks from over-hyped Mystery Wines. I am with you on both nixing those and on your spot-on TN (had it last night). Cheers!
6/16/23, 5:07 AM - So you're telling me there's a chance....?We have just reluctantly finished the case of the 2014. I had a few of the 2015 (last posted TN in 5/20/2020). Your TN gives me some reserved hope that not all will be reduced to cooking wine. Cheers to optimism!
7/14/23, 5:56 PM - Yup. Netter than drinkable tonight.
5/29/23, 6:58 PM - We shared our one-before-last bottle of this a couple of nights ago, and at now 30 years old, your notes still hold true. Cheers.
5/2/23, 4:57 PM - Alas, I drank one tonight (Tuesday...), Prior to reading your TN. Otherwise, I would have relegated it to Monday, which (unless I manage to unload this at a pol party or similar) is when my last bottle will be consumed 😉. Just OK for me as well.
2/12/23, 9:10 AM - @tophcooks - will try...my comment still stands, though.
5/18/22, 8:28 AM - Nice..! - I must have bought my case at the same store around that time (actually, I think it was at Peachtree Rd Liquors), but got ripped-off at $16.99....Drank most by now and thoroughly enjoyed the ride.
5/18/22, 2:00 PM - Well I'll be damned..Yes, I am. I should have looked at your profile pic (and vice-versa). Let's take this further off this forum: benhashal@gmail.comPS: I too have two of the 1989 Chave Rouge left. I actually believe we split this purchase or informed one another of the stash....
2/10/23, 3:45 AM - My recollection was a short aeration in the glass was all that it needed. Enjoy!
2/7/23, 8:43 PM - This wine gives 105% effort..!
2/8/23, 12:31 PM - All good. Always appreciate your insight, if not the cypherin'....
1/28/23, 5:16 PM - Spot on still.
12/17/22, 6:14 PM - Yep. Just OK for me as well...
12/17/22, 6:55 PM - Oops, my bad. I jumped the gun too quickly and thus modified my response in order not to offend the (this time) innocent. I purchased via Wine Access. Also frequently guilty of glowing copy for a mere OK product...
9/12/22, 6:33 PM - Tried again tonight. Slight "fleshing", but still, no swan here.
9/11/22, 5:42 AM - You Sir, wrote the most unique and lovely TN I've read on PornHub, ermmm - CellarTracker. Nice narrative. Had this wine last night (with another case to go). It took an hour of aeration in the glass (after decanting) to find its groove , but id certainly did. Cheers!
6/1/22, 11:27 AM - Had the last of my batch last night. Your review is spot on!. Given the QPR, I will likely buy a few of their 2016s as well.
4/11/22, 5:41 PM - Spot on (we may differ a couple of points on rating, but who cares..). While not a bad wine, this is rather pedestrian for the price.
4/1/22, 5:24 PM - Well conveyed....
2/25/22, 4:37 AM - Two bottles left downstairs, not far from my wife's Peloton. An excellent pairing suggestion! Cheers.
9/25/21, 5:07 AM - Not exactly, but certainly will try next goaround...I have 7 bottles left, and an open mind. Thanks for the tip.
12/29/21, 4:57 PM - @CPS: I did tonight. Regrettably, still unimpressed. 6 bottles left. Meh....Had a 2017 Fleurie Cru Bojo last night, and prefer it by a wide margin. Of course, YMMV....
2/1/22, 5:37 PM - @CPSchoeff - followed your suggestion tonight. Made it decent. Still, I find it more of an acquired taste or, if you prefer, an intellectual challenge, rather than an enjoyable experience. That weedy core ids not my thing..(and i am NOT a "hedonistic fruit bomb" kindda guy).
11/16/21, 4:28 AM - Thanks for the TN. You may want to add "yet another" to the Seattle source reference. I have found the overhype to be all-too-common and decided to simply avoid ANY "mystery wines" and almost everything else, especially when shipping to the East Coast tacks another $3.50/bottle to the cost.
9/24/21, 5:30 PM - Thanks for a very thorough and well composed review. Cheers!
6/25/20, 2:54 AM - Spot on review IMHO. To extend the question "How these producers create and sell such exquisite wines for so fair a price?" - probably paid-off land handed down and humble equipment and overhead..but the annoying next question is why can't other regions/producers get to this level of quality/price? Recently bought into the gig with borrowed money? Greed? - In the meanwhile, I stock on Lardy, Aufranc and their ilk to the extent reasonable...
9/23/21, 5:32 PM - Quick update: still going strong (no surprise there..). Gained a bit more complexity and maturity. a 3-5 years of peak still here.
8/27/21, 4:51 PM - Are you importing/producing/retailing this wine? I do not mean to doubt anyone's personal preference, but 100 points around this site and in general, points to perfection. If this is it for you - (as they they say in my adopted state) bless your heart...
8/27/21, 5:24 PM - Cheers...! Thanks for not taking offense.
5/27/21, 4:46 PM - Had it tonight (5th of 6 bought from Garagiste as Mystery Wine). Honestly, if I would have been offered an opportunity to get a refund on Mystery wines bought last year (adding $3.50+/bottle Shipping) I'd take it in a heartbeat. This one is just an ok, but rather uninspiring effort.
7/30/21, 4:56 PM - Had my last bottle: Pedestrian. How did that $50 Syrah work out for you..?
6/3/21, 5:13 AM - @PaulusLoZebra - Thank you for continuing to post full, insightful TN on this modestly priced wine. I largely concur with your notes and continue to be amazed by the QPR of some of the Cru BoJo available nowadays (while hoping for it to remain that way). PS: last night we had the 3rd bottle out of 6 bought, and feel it's in a good place right now, and will stay that way for the next 3-5 years. Cheers...!!
5/20/21, 6:19 PM - Probably worth disclaiming that this is not a White Bdx...
4/11/21, 5:33 PM - Agree 100%. Not only in regards to this bottling, but after assessing 10 different "Mystery Wines", adding the $3.70/bot shipping to E. Coast, I realized I have been buying wines I would likely pass on at "delivered" price. New year's resolution: "unsubscribe"
11/25/20, 7:09 AM - Where did you find it for $9..?
11/25/20, 5:18 PM - Nice. Our Costco (ATL, GA) has it at $12 - Likely different state taxation and tiered distribution system. Not a big deal here, but still 30%....
8/12/20, 1:42 PM - I second @actx's comment. Cheers.
7/28/20, 5:35 PM - MT..? - surely Müller-Thurgau..
5/13/20, 12:59 PM - Costco for $14.49 in Atlanta, maybe elsewhere.
5/2/20, 5:17 PM - While I was not asked directly, as the OP is yet to answer, I'll chime in. I had this (and the producer's CdP) over many years. Tasting it again tonight, I would say it'll drink will for another 5+ years, but in terms of peak drinkability - we are there already. Apologies for crashing the party (one of the perils of social media...)
4/14/20, 6:57 AM - Entertaining (and accurate) review. Had it last night with similar impression (although I may articulate it differently...). Hag Sameach from Atlanta, GA
4/8/20, 7:39 AM - I have to agree on laying it down and hope for magic. It is not enjoyable at all right now. I think buying 3 cases of anything one is not familiar with is a bit risky, especially when you really have no recourse (WineAccess supposedly will take wines back). The copyrighting skills of some vendors (JR included) are phenomenal, and even experienced buyers/tasters get tempted frequently to take a flyer....
12/7/19, 5:44 PM - I second the request to reason or revise the rating. Not fair to pull the overall wine's rating down due to a typo or otherwise, need to support the (very) low rating with a commensurate review
9/10/19, 6:38 AM - Gotta love a wine that gives 110%....!
2/20/19, 5:51 PM - To each their own, I get that part.. However, I have a hard time justifying a rating most people would resreve forba rare, outstanding phenomenon. Are you related to James Suckling, per chance?
12/5/18, 5:58 AM - Fair enough. I'll try to clarify: I paid around $20 for these bottles. Yes, a significant discount to going rate at Garagiste a WA retailer/online vendor. I am not unique in my affection for quality Red Burgs, and try as might to judge each wine on the merit, I tend to compare wines of similar varietals & price categories to their peers of different origin/producer/vintage years. Therefore, my comparison of this bottle (at the $20 I paid, let alone at the $35-40 MSRP) fell short IMHO against peers from Burg. If you would be kind enough to point me to the your favorites - I'd be delighted to give those a try and maybe become a convert or at least gain some faith...
12/3/18, 4:24 AM - https://www.internetwines.com/49157.html
12/3/18, 4:23 AM - Not to add to the pain, but rather to help you "cost average" should you so choose: https://www.internetwines.com/49157.html
11/19/18, 5:53 PM - And did you try again? No disrespect, but your notes are slightly incompatible with the score you assigned the wine, if we are following common conventions. I would say anything under 80 points is a throw away. I have no problems buying and drinking wines rated 80+ by myself or most main stream rating (CT included). My $0.02
11/3/18, 7:18 AM - I noticed your notes differ greatly over 2 bottles, drank about a month apart. Bottle variation? We had the first (of 6 purchased) last night and felt a bit of oxidation. Hoping the rest will show better, but having doubts.
11/2/18, 7:15 AM - Spot on. I am looking forward to my next bottle to post a review, but last night's first bottle of the batch was close to an epiphany re affordable Nero D'Avola (had plenty of forgettable ones)
8/11/18, 10:52 AM - I find LB tends to blow a bit harder than other flash sale sites, although Wine Access is no slouch. WTSO TN by JHN with food matching suggestions are simply ignored.
12/27/16, 5:59 PM - Had another bottle 2nite. Tannic, yet with developed palate. My guess is it is as good as it'll get, complexity-wise. However, it'll hold in this state for 10 more years
7/14/17, 5:31 PM - Not showing well. Charred fruit, medium everything else....
2/8/17, 6:07 PM - And then what....?
1/15/17, 7:18 AM - Nice review. Had similar experience last nigh. I read your review after posting mine and you articulated my own experience much better...
12/1/16, 5:54 PM - Appreciate your insight. Looking forward to your own impression. To clarify: I am NOT claiming it a dud, or a loser. I consider it a decent value for the price at best...
10/19/16, 7:13 PM - Worth the fare you stated IMHO... Awaiting your impression...
6/30/16, 5:36 PM - Thanks for sharing your fine brand of humor. I share your pain..
7/1/16, 6:51 AM - Thanks for the tip. Took a flyer yesterday on 2 "close out" bottles of 2010 Baumard plain Savennières at $14 each. Not holding high hopes, but risk/reward is tempting. Most great Chenin Blancs still under the price radar, thankfully.
7/27/16, 6:08 PM - Hi Julian, finally got around to pop open my Baumard Sav (straight - no special cuvee) 2010 I bout at $15/bott. Loved it. Sad only managed to get 2... just for reference and discussion.
7/20/15, 2:34 PM - They were Hungarian, I am quite sure of that.
11/1/14, 7:26 AM - Would not be the first time the Pulitzer Prize winning copywriters of Wine Access have lured some otherwise savvy buyers into taking a flyer on a bottlling of the next La Tache/La Mouline/La Montrachet - take your pick - that proves to be mediocre... I have a few of those myself (not that it's of any consolation)...
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