3/20/24, 1:54 AM - Thanks for the tasting note. So many left here are calibrated to drinking these too young, nice to see someone who gets that they peak at least two decades post-vintage.
2/21/24, 5:06 PM - I have one left, last tried one in 2022 and was very pleased with it. I've grown convinced that well-crafted Syrah is almost indestructible.
2/19/24, 4:50 AM - Thanks for the review, and especially for not rating the wine with multiple earlier ratings in place. Too many of my lesser known bottles have one person dominating the scores. That being said, notes are rather than scores should be our default. Doesn't always work that way though.
2/15/24, 2:21 AM - Thanks for the review. The reviews for 2014 La Dame have been from 750s, and as my magnum approaches its' 10th birthday I was wondering how close it was to the window. I plan to hold for a while longer and your review confirms.
2/13/24, 1:47 AM - I bought mine as a futures in the 1984-85 time range, paying well under $100.
1/28/24, 4:34 AM - I have not tried any of my 2017's yet, but Geyserville has a reputation for being very long lived. If you have access to Vinous look for the Tanzer article from a couple of years ago where he tasted a vertical back to the 1980s. Your tastes for older zin blends may vary, but I think in general the Ridge blends hit their stride after their 10th birthday.Excellent description by the way.
1/17/24, 3:17 AM - If you have another bottle of the 2017 in 2037 you will see the difference. I'd suggest locating a 1990's era bottle of vintage port from a good house (Dow, Taylor, Grahams) and try it to see what age will do to a vintage port. They are available at decent prices, and you will be deinking a whole different animal.
1/17/24, 3:02 AM - I passed on the offer. I got on the list to get access to well crafted Napa cabs at a reasonable price. Reasonable is in the rear view at this point. Will still get the lower level wines but even they are getting to the point where competitive wineries are out there at significantly lower cost.
12/28/23, 5:55 AM - I have a couple of bottles I picked up from Panzer also. Will have to crack one the next time I have a good food match lined up.
11/16/23, 1:48 AM - Was your bottle sourced recently from an online discounter? I picked up half a case that way a couple months back and now wondering if I should sample soon.
9/27/23, 1:00 PM - I've found the Reynvaans to be more Burgundian as they approach a decade or more of bottle age, so not surprised at all with your bottle. I had the 2014 two years ago, and the word "elegant" appeared in my review also. Nice to hear it is aging well.
6/29/23, 1:55 PM - Here is the field blend list from the 2017 Pagani:Zinfandel, Petite Sirah, Alicante Bouschet, and Grand Noir are the most populous, but our blocks also contain Mataro, Carignan, Semillon, Muscadelle, Aramon, Burger, and Mission.
6/17/23, 1:00 PM - Four words that are found in every review of '86 Margaux - Give it more time.
2/20/23, 2:47 PM - Down the line is a good plan. Personally I would not touch his Bourgogne in a good vintage until the 10 year mark, village level wines at 15. They are built to age.
1/29/23, 4:14 AM - What I really like about your note is the way you put the critical elements in context - looking for hearty, you prefer riper, etc. Too many reviewers just downgrade with comments like "lacks ripeness".Thanks for the note.
12/11/22, 3:39 PM - I served it alongside the 1996 last week, and if that one is any indication your "2035, easily" is spot-on.
11/28/22, 2:07 AM - From your description ("lack of dimension, flat, just there") it sounds like you had a corked bottle. Better to mark this as flawed instead of giving it a terribly low score, as there are many people who have enjoyed dynamic bottles of this vintage.
3/12/22, 11:55 AM - I think you nailed it with "what it takes to get to its potential". I recently had the 2000 version, and at 21 years it was absolutely singing. I like to give CdP at least a decade before pulling corks, and have had great luck with even "minor" Chateauneuf. You can find well aged bottles for not much more than you pay for current vintages. Worth exploring IMO.Thanks for the note.
1/10/22, 2:19 AM - I had almost the same match on Saturday, again looking for cold weather comfort food. Did a pork loin stuffed with mushrooms apple and onion. The earthy character of the Rotie did very well with that match.
1/6/22, 1:42 AM - 我很惊讶这款酒显示为肉质。也许是因为温暖的一年。我相信这个级别的勃艮第酒庄在葡萄酒酿造后至少10年内表现得更好,如果你有更多的尝试给他们一个长时间的休息。
1/6/22, 1:10 AM - I had the same experience with one last year. Hoping it is a phase but your note gives me concerns for my remaining bottles.
1/1/22, 2:58 PM - HI, just a suggestion to mark bad bottles as flawed on NR. The number rating won't pull down the average score of good bottles that way.
1/1/22, 12:44 PM - I'm down to my last bottle of a case bought at release. Glad it showed well for you - I've never had an off bottle, and my last few have been excellent. Last tasted two years ago.
12/29/21, 4:47 AM - My bottle really opened up with a splash decant and a one-hour wait. Added some depth and richness.
7/1/21, 10:26 AM - Piling on here, except in my case it is "Once you have the Napa cabs from the early eighties burnt into your cranial hard drive. Agree that 6-10 tends to be a clumsy age for quality cab-based wines. I own a magnum of this which I'm targeting for closer to its 20th birthday.For your case I'd wait a few years before the next cork pull. Cheers.
6/8/21, 3:13 PM - Thanks for taking one for the team.I know that a number of the comments spoke of short-term cellaring but if you can I would try to go longer. To my taste a complex blend like this (40+ sources) need at least five years and hit the sweet spot at 10. At any rate, hope you enjoy.
6/9/21, 1:35 PM - Mark - not if the winemaking team knows what they are doing. Even single-sourced wines go through an assembly process. Look up some of the videos of the Ridge team assembling Monte Bello, as they select different barrels for different characteristics.Same thing here, just using different barrels from different vineyards. In both wines they are relying on time to integrate the different parts into a final product better than on Day 1.
6/15/21, 6:41 AM - Mark, you are being disingenuous here by putting quotes around “fact” -no one in this discussion said it was a certainty that any particular wine would be better with age. Just that past experience has shown fine wines built this way have indeed improved with age.Fun fact: Mouton-Rothschild is assembled from over 60 different vats, with the fruit from different sections of the vineyards separated to enhance the individual character of those sections. Then the wine is blended to assemble the final product.Anxiously awaiting your list of Moutons that failed to improve with age.
2/18/21, 8:46 AM - The Bedrock blend is 85% Zin with the remainder Mataro, Grenache, Alicante Bouschet, Carignan and Petite Syrah.
1/11/21, 5:48 AM - Re: Paul Draper- he’s still involved, but the Monte Bello has been made by Eric Baugher since 2004. They share a common sense of what Monte Bello should be.
12/2/20, 7:55 AM - Ummm.....definitely Washington. But I get the idea, it has more New World style than Old World.
11/12/20, 5:31 AM - I was already considering opening one of my two bottles this weekend to match with a big fatty ribeye. Your note made the decision-thanks.
11/12/20, 5:27 AM - Hi, the flavors you describe are typical of heat damaged wine. Prune, muddy, flat - classic description. I would ask questions of your supplier on this one. I’ve had dozens of Ridge Zins over the years, young and 10 years plus, and I have never encountered these flavors.
9/9/20, 4:55 AM - Geyserville in good vintages is an incredibly long-lived wine. Tanzer had the 1993 two years ago and wrote it would last another decade. He had the 1970 at the same tasting and noted it was showing beautifully. I try to give these at least a decade before wading in.
8/17/20, 7:06 AM - I think the sweet spot for these is about 15 years post vintage. I've had bottles from good vintages pushing 20 and they seemed past prime, but a few years younger were singing. Thanks for the note, I will continue to be patient with my 2010's.
7/27/20, 4:47 AM - I recently had bottles of the 2019 and 2017 within a few days of each other. I'm planning on holding my remaining 2019 for another year at least. The '17 had so much more going on from the additional time in the bottle.
7/27/20, 4:40 AM - Sit on the rest of your bottles. The Heritage wines need a few years to integrate. I think you will like the results.
7/22/20, 6:46 AM - Wondering how you obtained the bottle - was it a recent purchase, or something that had been held since release? Adding that context would help in determining how to weight your experience against others.
6/17/20, 7:22 AM - Thanks for the note.I had a bottle about 8 months ago. Did not decant, but still found the same bit of backwardness to the wine. Corison has a reputation for needing time in the bottle, but at age 12 I would think there would be more development. FWIW Tanzer had the same experience two years ago and is also now a doubter.
6/5/20, 4:30 AM - Sounds like a great boss.Thanks for the review.
6/5/20, 4:28 AM - Or maybe not decant at all? I think you might get better results with a careful pour watching for sediment. Good review, thanks.
11/5/19, 4:33 AM - Hi Rupesh, and welcome to Cellar Tracker. I hope you will find the site to be an excellent companion to your wine experience.Regarding the 2012 Rotie Southern Blend, your review used the phrase "for a Pinot". The '12 Southern Blend is 65% Grenache, 25% Mourvedre and 10% Syrah. I think you are getting that Pinot feeling from the Grenache. Cheers!
9/26/19, 9:07 AM - You may have had a flawed bottle. I pulled one from my cellar last weekend and it was nothing like you described. Well, I agree on the light part, but no smoke notes, just pure fruit with good balancing acidity.
8/12/19, 4:26 AM - Since River posted "Prototypical Myriad Napa Valley", I'm going to guess it is similar to previous years.
7/19/19, 9:36 AM - Takk for notatet. Fantastisk beskrivelse av vinen. Jeg skal holde min flasker i 5 år eller så før du drikker, så det er flott å se på hvor det er i dag.Jeg bruker et oversettelsesprogram for å konvertere dette fra engelsk, så jeg beklager eventuelle feil.
7/8/19, 7:30 AM - Thanks for the note. I only hold two bottles, so hesitate to pull a cork. Targeting a 2022-2025 drinking window at this point, and looking forward to your Day 2 update.
4/9/19, 1:33 PM - Thank you for a thought-provoking review.Recently someone on this site left a 99-point review of the 1975 Yquem, which followed the "suggested format" - the legs were medium, the color was yellow, and so on. How, I wondered, could someone taste a wine that should be a benchmark for their life of wine drinking, and not speak to how it moved them, changed them, made them thankful for the chance. You took the opportunity to do that with your note. Bravo.
4/1/19, 6:32 AM - Just curious...did you serve this after an '89 Lynch Bages? Thinking that the contrast in styles would explain some of the "fruit bomb" effect, which I have not noticed in these.
3/22/19, 8:05 AM - My mileage didn't vary - had the same impression as you when I tasted it a year ago. Apple and acid, not in the normal SB spectrum.FWIW Fabian Castel (winemaker) has tasted back vintages quite a bit and believes these will age well.
3/11/19, 1:35 AM - Your note sounds exactly like the bottle I pulled a year ago, so perhaps this is holding steady right now. Mine was purchased at release and well-cellared, and perhaps was showing a bit more fruit - though the tertiary notes were well evident. I'm going got err on the side of caution with my remaining bottle, though, and drink in the next year or so.
2/6/19, 6:23 AM - IIRC this was the first vintage from the Force Majure vineyard. Would explain part of the later vintages having more going on.
2/9/19, 3:42 PM - Yes I know but the Force Majure Vinyard is a recent planting. They used other sources for Syrah prior to 2012.
8/16/18, 5:56 AM - RE Draper pulling back at Ridge: Eric Baugher has been working with Paul Draper for at least a decade, and is the primary winemaker of the Monte Bello. I had the pleasure of attending a small tasting with him a few years back, and the impression I took away was one of continuity of style. Eric is very good and the flagship wines should be fine.I know there is a second winemaker, but do not know details, only that he is part of the team effort, as well as having primary control on some of the wines. Chard? Cannot recall which at this point. If you have a few minutes you can find some videos on YouTube of the assemblage process for Monte Bello. Interesting stuff.
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