2/10/24, 9:44 AM - Thanks for this helpful note. Actually, I found 18-19-20 bit too big and jammy for us, and so your note about the 22 is all the more useful — and for now we will pass.
2/3/24, 7:37 AM - All very nicely observed and described.
1/15/24, 8:11 PM - Beautifully described.
1/2/24, 8:10 PM - Our sentiments as well, when we tasted this 2 and 1/2 years ago: If CDP was like this, we would be more interested. Glad to hear it’s similar what we enjoyed. I think we should open our remaining one pretty soon! Thanks for the note.
12/22/23, 8:46 AM - Or at least, please share with us what product your dentist is using. “I’ll have the same.”
12/17/23, 7:42 AM - Very well observed and articulated. (Unfortunately, for those of us with similar tastes — and who still have a bottle or two. But this is making me think: we know some folks who actually like this kind stuff, and here comes a Christmas present for them!)
12/9/23, 7:46 AM - In our view, yes indeed. Note: as usual we had this over three nights. It was lovely on opening, and continued to develop nicely over the next nights.
12/8/23, 9:03 AM - Beautifully described.
11/10/23, 9:38 AM - We made our reservations approximately four weeks in advance, I believe. At least Berne is closer for you compared with our commute! By the way, when I was in grade school we lived in/near Zürich for two years. Excellent memories. And even now we travel back to Switzerland fairly regularly, especially to Kandersteg, where we’ve been seven times. Such a lovely area — and very near you!
10/5/23, 4:59 PM - Thanks, that’s what I thought I remembered. The designation is quite unclear — certainly, no key is provided — and it almost seems designed to be rather opaque? On the other hand, frankly, this bottle was so good, it’s hard to imagine the N being much better. I do have a couple of each — I suppose it would be interesting to compare them side-by-side.
10/5/23, 5:52 PM - PS, too late to edit: I don’t really think this producer is being intentionally vague. And this certainly is a First World problem. But when I see the “S,” I think — just as you described it — “sans”!
9/22/23, 8:40 PM - And thank you — for all of your thoughtful and descriptive notes.
8/5/23, 8:18 AM - Thanks for this. The increasingly high alcohol in Beaujolais wines is disconcerting. I see this available at K&L and based on your review, I will pass. Aside: it would be helpful if notes on that site stated the alcohol level of wines — but alas, they don’t.
7/21/23, 10:03 AM - Salut Andreas -- thanks and "vive le Jura," indeed! Have you been to the domaine? It's a nice and pleasantly simple place.
7/21/23, 11:13 AM - Those are certainly good places. In the dramatic but rather touristy village of Chateau Chalon, we’ve especially enjoyed visits to Berthet Bondet, Macle, and Credoz. And in case I have not mentioned it before, when dining in lovely downtown Arbois, “Le Bistrotnome” is getting only better and better! We will be returning in October.
7/21/23, 12:04 PM - Credoz may not be quite in the same league in terms of quality compared with the other two I mentioned, but we did enjoy our visit there. (I am suddenly remembering we went into the cellar with the very friendly winemaker, and then he put the labels on the bottles — and dipped the necks in wax — before turning them over to us. As with many places in the Jura, it is a small and friendly operation.)
7/23/23, 2:47 PM - PS: The filing problem I noted has been fixed — very good! Many thanks for contacting CT about that, and thanks to CT for fixing it.
7/15/23, 3:42 PM - This was, I thin, a somewhat odd, or at least atypical, tasting. I have a Coravin we rarely use. We were were going on a two week trip, and used it for this bottle. I suppose it worked very well -- normally we perceive some evolution over two or three days, but this time it was like drinking it from the original pour. Ver enjoyable indeed, tho.
4/18/23, 6:11 PM - Here’s the reason why we go three days regularly: open our refrigerator door, and you will see five or six open bottles. We usually gas in between openings. This way, we have a variety of wines with our dinner courses each night— and it’s easy for a bottle to last three days, sometimes four or even more.
4/18/23, 3:05 PM - It was not the friendliest. Perhaps it would’ve been better in the middle of winter, next to a roaring fire, with rotisserie lamb.
3/31/23, 1:38 AM - You get this for 20, and the reserve it for 40? Good for you!
3/18/23, 9:21 PM - Nice note — well described. (This, over the past few years, has become my wife’s favorite “house Sancerre” — and I like it very much as well.)
3/12/23, 8:24 PM - Great — and very useful — note, as usual. As a general matter, do you have an impression about how well these age? (In that regard, I am almost personally interested in 2009, 2010, and 2011.)
2/25/23, 7:48 AM - Excellent note — as usual.
2/21/23, 7:24 AM - Thanks for the comments. I have yet to open one, and based on your note, may try to hold off for a year or so.
2/21/23, 9:17 AM - Yes, looking forward to the new Cote Foret — we have a few bottles (at the hillside club price, which is 15% below the retail price), so I suspect we may open one in the next year or so to get a sneak peek.
2/22/23, 8:29 AM - Thanks for the insights!
1/24/23, 9:43 PM - Excellent note.
1/1/23, 9:39 PM - Excellent note and observations, as usual. We have often thought that this bottling (and its recent predecessors) is the closest creature to L de H blancos. I quite agree with your assertion that this presents in a more modern style, and yet it still feels that it speaks to us from another era.
12/13/22, 1:08 PM - Very nicely described.
12/9/22, 4:10 PM - Excellent description — especially the observation of it being simultaneously rich and austere. What an amazing house, and what fabulous wine creatures are these.
12/8/22, 7:36 AM - Hmmm, a bit surprising that this would be over the hill? And re “an English way” — are you referring to what I understand to be an appreciation of older (flat?) champagnes? If so, we are English in that way!
12/8/22, 8:47 AM - Ahhh, thanks, and makes sense. Hmmm, we may open this sooner rather than later.
12/3/22, 7:28 PM - Nice note, thanks.
12/2/22, 8:53 PM - Very nice & helpful note. I think we’ll drink our remaining soon. We have fine memories of that restaurant — but wow, I had no idea this wine had so appreciated, or would be on the list for that amount.
12/3/22, 9:30 AM - Thanks for the for the follow up and clarifications. I’m glad to hear that it’s not $500 at Passionfish. Looking back at my CT records, I see I paid approximately €45 for these in Sept 2017 at a nice Paris wine shop in the 14eme. And now I remember, the proprietor was giving me a deal, just by making these available to me. I had come in looking for a unicorn Jura. We had a good conversation, and he eventually went down into his reserve cellar to bring out two of these (and also two of a slightly lesser sibling, Les Rouliers) for me. Now I’ve looked on wine-searcher, and I’m seeing the $500+ prices for this, and $400+ for Les Rouliers (which, by the way, for the one bottle I’ve had so far, I foundnot all that enjoyable). Yes, this one seems a fine wine — but as you say, these prices must be largely attributed to scarcity.
11/26/22, 9:51 AM - Good/appropriate move. Interestingly, just last night we finished a bottle of the 2018, and it’s labeled Sauvignon. And so yes, the varieties seem to wander annually.
11/19/22, 10:07 AM - Thanks for this follow up to your useful and entertaining September 2020 note. When / if you are next in Arbois, you might try the far more casual and enjoyable (for us) Le Bistrotnome. The wine list is not extensive, but there are a few fine bottles.
11/13/22, 8:05 PM - Nice note — and glad the comments on O-M’s thread prompted you to open these!
11/13/22, 7:53 PM - Lovely note. We opened a half bottle three weeks ago, and have been nursing bits of it ever since, also kept in the fridge, simply recorked. Amazing stuff, and isn’t it fabulous how it coats the glass? We have never seen such “legs”!
11/8/22, 7:08 AM - Hi O-M, thanks for this. I have a few of these (in my very sparse collection of Bordeaux), but I trust you, and hmmm, your review does not make it sound promising ….
11/8/22, 10:47 AM - Indeed — and hmmm, I can’t imagine doing the same once we finally open one of these and it’s as you describe. As you say, so many other wines deserve our attention.
11/8/22, 11:44 AM - I meant to say, I “can” imagine doing the same thing. Siri was having fun with me, as usual.
10/24/22, 6:25 PM - My impression, which is consistent with some comments — but quite out of step with others — is that this is harmonious and accessible at this point. Maybe it’s a window, or maybe that will continue. At the same time, I have no reason to believe that it will not age beautifully and gracefully, as have most other prior vintages I’ve had the privilege to taste. But what do I know!? Well, I do know that I love this house’s distinctive wines — the various reds and the three blancos — and the truly amazing rosado.
9/25/22, 7:45 AM - Re:”I'm looking forward to trying the '20 of this designation after the superb '19 (maiden offering). BTW, it looks like Drew is renaming their mid-slope.” That made me look at my CT inventory listing. I see that I have 2019 mid-slope estate (that I’ve not yet opened). But I also see that I have 2019 of this new designation. And so unless I made a mistake when entering these things (certainly possible), there seem to be 2019 versions of each of these estate wines? (Unfortunately, I’ve screwed up my knee, and can’t go down into my cellar to check in person for a few weeks. In the meantime, I’m depending on my wife to pull out bottles from bins here and there. It’s an adventure!)
9/15/22, 11:31 AM - Sorry to hear, but at this point not surprised ….
8/21/22, 8:38 PM - Excellent note, and fine observations. As you will see, I have referred to it in my own note — and mentioned our own little unintentional / unscientific longevity experiment.
8/20/22, 7:43 AM - Thanks for this note. I was hoping the heat might have dissipated — but not surprised to learn that hasn’t happened.
8/21/22, 7:30 AM - We are in sync about this. And for us, it doesn’t implicate only the southern Rhone. Lately, in restaurants, I’ve asked to check that alcohol level before the bottle is brought to the table or opened. We just don’t want that alcoholic heat. — Jake
8/6/22, 3:40 PM - Right — and on reflection, I don’t think we perceived much development. Certainly, no signs of anything like degradation. But on the other hand, no noticeable interesting tertiary characteristics.
8/6/22, 8:27 AM - Excellent note and observations.
8/2/22, 1:16 PM - Nice description. And on reflection, we agree, this does have a welcome “creamy”character — at the same time as showing lovely bracing acidity. It’s lovely stuff indeed!
8/3/22, 6:33 AM - Thanks for the mention about the ouillé Chardonnay — we will look for it. By the way, we had a lovely visit at the winery back in approximately 2016. So nice to see a family operation running successfully. — Jake
11/8/21, 6:33 AM - Nice note — and like you, we have found this (and its predecessor siblings) to be all the better on the second, or sometimes even third day.
7/31/22, 12:44 PM - Hi WineKnurd, well, we may be a bit unusual, but here’s how we manage not to drink a friendly wine like this immediately after opening: My lovely wife makes three (two are smallish) savory courses for dinner every night. Fifteen or so years ago, we realized that one bottle often didn’t work / go with these varied dishes. So now we have at least five bottles open at a time. We gas many of them, keep them in the fridge, and take them out before dinner. We have “by the glass tastings”every evening. It’s interesting to watch the evolution, and as a general manner, we find many wines are better on the second night, and some on the third.
7/23/22, 8:05 AM - Thanks for the note. What was the year of bottling? And just to clarify, this was oxidized — not merely, as would be expected, oxidative?
7/23/22, 8:32 AM - Thanks for this further information. I think I have at least one of those 07s, and so we shall see ….
7/23/22, 4:25 PM - Yes, I may have been/may still be similarly obsessed. We had a great visit in September 2018 — including a fabulous 2.5+ hour private tour at LdeH. Oh those cobwebs and all that mold! We still love those wines, especially the blancos.
7/23/22, 5:02 PM - We do like LRA, especially when we are in the mood for a silky touch of sweet oak. Oh I wish I owned one of those cars -- the one I'm showing here is a ribbed 1950s model we parked next to in Auxerre, on the way to Chablis, a decade or so ago.
7/23/22, 8:01 AM - Thanks for this excellent note.
6/12/22, 8:33 AM - Very nicely described, and we can certainly agree about the leather/mushroomy notes that appear throughout the bottlings of this lovely house.
5/31/22, 8:35 PM - Beautifully (and accurately) described.
5/18/22, 7:17 PM - Nice note — and I agree, the label is lovely too. But I will happily trade one of these for an LdH!
5/3/22, 8:33 PM - Very well described. Certainly agree with your notes about the savory forest and pineneedle characteristics of this wine. Happily, generally this a house style/ attribute. Also concur that this should be interesting and lovely in future years.
5/2/22, 6:37 AM - Very nicely described.
4/23/22, 8:15 AM - Lovely wine, beautifully described.
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