12/24/22, 3:40 PM - In 2020, there are two cuvees of Duroche Clos de Beze. I believe that each cuvee was a barrel. There is the regular cuvee and then there is a cuvee called Hommage a Phiiippe. The latter is only in mag and is made from vines that actually date back to 1920. The parcel is described as being planted in 1920 but as in most such parcels only some of the vines date that far back. Philippe was Pierre's grandfather who some great wines in the 1960s, last vintage around 1973. Sounds like you had the "regular" cuvee.
11/6/22, 9:01 AM - Great notes as usual. The Clos St. Jacques from Fourrier is terrific in 2012 as well. The elusive Griotte is a bit more showy in 2012 too. Wonderful. Love the Goulots as vineyard. Top slop only. The rain from the forest above it runs through the vineyard and strips the soil, leaving a very rocky vineyard. When it got too difficult to work, Jean-Marie's father would use dynamite to break up the rocks. I don't know what Jean Marie does. Also on the Combe Aux Moines, a good portion of Jean Marie's holding at in an old quarry set into the slop. The quarry seems mostly filled in but still has rock walls along one side - the higher slope side. The sun heats these rocks and they reflect the heat back on to the vines, adding ripeness and eventually alcohol. I don't know if there is a map that shows this but I walked the vineyard and it is easy to spot. One other note about 2012. Jean Marie has a small piece of Chambolle Sentiers. He makes a barrel when he can. The crop is 2012 was too small so he made no Sentiers. In a vintage where there is no Sentiers, he blends the Sentiers in with the village Chambolle, which is probably around 30 percent or so of the combined blend. (He does not have much Chambolle village). So in 2012, another wine to look for is the Chambolle village. Same in 2016 - no Sentiers but Chambolle village with a substantial percentage of Sentiers. All the best, Tom
4/5/22, 6:00 PM - Hard to explain. Impossible actually. But it gets worse. Got an offer for negoc Charles Lachaux 19 Aligote Champs d'Argent for $1,299. No typo. No misplaced comma. Mine are going to auction if these prices hold.
4/5/22, 5:58 PM - This is wine made by Hubert and Romain.
2/14/22, 6:17 PM - Arnoux Lachaux under performed in 2017. There are producers who did much better at much lower prices.
1/15/22, 8:01 AM - You can have mine. Really.
7/24/21, 7:09 AM - Have you tried the 71 and 64, made by Pierre's grandfather. Those are special wines. What is next in your Duroche series? Cazetiers is a special wine. Latricieres? or Griotte? Aux Etelois?
7/25/21, 8:36 AM - Warcheslover, thanks for note. Good notes take time abd I gave up years ago. I hope you get a chance to try some of the other Duroché wines as they are quite good. The Griotte is 100 percent whole cluster just for volume as there is so little made. The Cazetiers as well I believe. They present a slightly different expression. All the best Tom
4/1/21, 7:19 PM - What is the rest of your 2018 Duroche line up? Nice notes so far.
4/2/21, 7:47 AM - I have every other cuvee he made in 18 except the Bourgogne Blanc and Rouge and the Gevrey en Vosne (a cuvee sold only to restaurants) if you want singles to taste. I am in DC area if you ever get down here.
3/17/21, 9:30 PM - I have had the 07 Sentiers many times. Have gone through a few cases at least. We did a blind tasting of Fourrier Griotte, Clos St. Jacques and Sentiers 07 (pouring half of the Sentiers into a 750 Fourrier bottle to avoid the bottle size ruining the blind aspect). Five experienced tasters all thought that the Sentiers was by far the best. All picked it out. We confused the Griotte and the Clos St. but not the Sentiers. I have had the wine in 09, 10, 11, 15 and it has never been as good as the 07. I don't think that the vines are 100 years old. I think that they were around '61. Great reviews on the wine. Could not agree more. Have a case in Europe and a few other bottles left.
3/18/21, 9:05 PM - The Griotte takes a long time to come around. The 09 is just getting there and the 10 is probably a bit behind. The 09 Sentiers can be excellent but not as good the 07. The 12s were excellent and I thought that Fourrier made great 11s. The Sentiers 11 needs more time, more than the Griotte or Clos St. Jacques. The 13s are light but have developed some style, particularly the Clos St. Jacques. Have not tried the 13 Sentiers. One tip to look for is the Chambolle Musigny in short crop years when Fourrier does not make a Sentiers, such as 12 and 16. In those years, the Sentiers goes into the Chambolle which is low production wine anyway. As a result you get a wine that is maybe 30% Sentiers plus or minus at a village wine price.
3/20/21, 1:33 PM - If, when this mess is over, you get to DC let me know and we will drink some Fourrier together. All the best.
3/28/20, 6:43 PM - Glad to see you are still drinking great wines in these times. I loved the '16 of this wine and have some of the '17 but have not tried it. Rare stuff - one barrel I think. One of my last pre-shutdown wines incidentally was the '17 Griotte from Duroche. An amazing wine. I remember well the night we had the '10 and '12 together in Hong Kong. Hopefully, we can do that again some time in the future. Tom
3/29/20, 6:37 AM - Yes, I heard about that. I have been looking around for old Duroche to contribute and so far have a 71, 66, 64 CDB. Provenance and condition may be an issue. Found some 61 Gevrey village as well. Wondering what went into that wine. Can't imagine that the domaine was bottling all the cuvees that it bottles now but could have selling things like Cazetiers, Champeaux, and the other premier crus to negoc. Probably did bottle the Lavaux. There is a 78 Gevrey village in Germany somewhere but I have never figured out how to get wines back from Germany. Any ideas for old Duroche? Pierre has very little or none (from the 70s back).
10/10/19, 2:57 PM - Fourrier does not use more than 20% new oak. What you are tasting may taste like new oak but its not.
6/27/19, 5:50 PM - Romain Lignier died of brain cancer, not a car crash.
9/17/18, 4:34 PM - Fourrier uses 20% new oak and then 1 through 4 year old barrels. If there are issues with the wine, its not too much oak.
9/23/18, 11:49 AM - Agree that the 15 Aux Echezeaux is a great version of that wine. Usually I like the GC VV better but I think not in 15. Like you, I have been drinking Fourrier forever and liked his wines because you did not need to buy the Clos St. Jacques to get something good. Did you try to Fourrier shake before drinking the 15 GC VV? In any event, if you are ever in Washington D.C., look me up and we can drink the wine and discuss it!
2/6/18, 4:11 PM - Was at the dinner too and it was as you described. Incredible.
3/17/17, 5:26 PM - I have never understood or liked this cuvee of Fourrier. It is a negoc wine. It is charmless and lacks the finesse and elegance of his domaine wines. I don't think it was 2014 - it is this cuvee. Not good in 11, 12, 13 or 14. We did Fourrier's Chambolles in 14 blind and this came in last. Gruenchers was best - better (today anyway) than his negoc Amoureuses.
4/3/16, 5:07 PM - Al, great to meet you. I did not have the Chambolle 09 or the Goulots 11 at Tru. They were served at the dinner at NoMi on Saturday and the notes were reversed. The Goulots was showing very well and the Chambolle not as well, lean and a bit thin. Tom
2/2/16, 7:58 PM - I have had the wine on a number of occasions and to me it belongs with the Griotte and Clos St. Jacques at the top of the Fourrier lineup.
9/19/15, 5:22 AM - If you want to try a good Fourrier from 2011, try the village Gevrey VV, the Combe aux Moines or of course the Clos St Jacques or the Griotte.
9/21/15, 6:48 PM - I have had the Gevrey village VV on a number of occasions and have enjoyed it consistently. The Cherbaudes is very good in 12 and not as good in 11. It is one of the more variable of Fourrier's cuvees, at least in its youth. The negoc wines are another story. I have had them all in 11 and in 12. None of them have elegance and balance of the grower wines. The Echezeaux is the best and I have some good bottles and some not as good. The Clos Vougeot is hard and unyielding. Maybe better with time. The Echanges -- we have discussed that already -- its is not better in 12. Oddly, perhaps the best of the negoc wines is the Bourgogne Rouge (not made in 11, started in 12).
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