4/23/24, 6:02 AM - Thank you glou.sf!
4/15/24, 3:11 AM - Thanks for your comment and I am glad my note proved useful and most importantly you were (still) able to enjoy this lovely Richebourg! Cheers, Ben.
1/4/24, 12:46 PM - at JulianSkeels, he doesn't make Les Saint Georges. That's the Thibault Liger Belais.
11/20/23, 7:40 AM - P1 is original release. Then there is late release (used to be called Oenoteque now P2 and P3).
2/22/23, 8:56 AM - Good to know thanks for the tip! Never had the pleasure of encountering the 90GE...
10/28/22, 3:47 AM - Thank you! Pains me of course as when you order / open this kind of calibre wine from a bona fide great vintage even if young it "must" be good. And to have two bottles showing same poor showing is hard to stomach. Don't take it for the gospel though as I have a friend who has a very good palate and he opened the same wine just after I did at a different place and it was apparently not like I described it. So it's puzzling shall we say. I just gotten a short straw here and I hope others have better experiences.
5/4/16, 6:49 AM - Hi Collector1855, many thanks for your kind note! I was not aware of the tasting group notes function, so thanks for the tip. Cheers.
10/11/22, 9:13 AM - Hey Purple Tooth - you won't regret those but let them slumber. If you don't already own any I also highly recommend the 2010...
9/16/22, 7:06 AM - Thanks for your note. That must have been interesting to compare those two side by side! Louis-Michel made both wines - he worked the entire vineyard and was the winemaker and filled the Bouchard barrels for half the juice (which was then bottled and labelled by Bouchard, their barrels having a slightly higher toast and I think they racked and fined the wines which L-M didn't do for his own label wine). L-M's view is that the wines are more similar than not (which your notes seem to confirm). I really enjoyed the Bouchard labelled version earlier this year and look forward to five more bottles.
7/20/22, 4:45 AM - Thanks for your comment, very interesting to know! I must admit that any UC I ever opened did not survive a couple days ;-) Almond paste is a good descriptor too.
3/2/22, 7:39 AM - Hi - sorry to hear that, most definitely different experience to our bottle (yes it was pnp)... but that's wine for you I guess...
3/7/22, 9:21 AM - Very glad to hear that!
2/14/22, 8:15 AM - Yes, do wait! The one 11 from Rousseau that was really open for business and a stunner was the Ruchottes...
2/10/22, 12:44 PM - I think now - 2040. No rush but probably good idea to have one now and follow the evolution over the coming decade.
1/17/22, 6:28 AM - I believe it was decanted c 1 hour before we drank it and it was immediately quite open and inviting, a relatively soft, fragrant, delicate wine for Bordeaux. I actually think I would open one now if I were you given you have a several bottles and see what you think. But it will certainly have 10-20 years of drinking pleasure ahead, however I think it's nice to catch it right now.
11/15/21, 11:42 AM - Thank you!
9/7/21, 5:14 AM - Thanks for that, I will keep an eye out. In the meantime, if you see 07 don't hesitate!
7/28/21, 3:52 AM - Great note!
7/9/21, 12:59 PM - What is "octave acid"?
7/2/21, 2:43 PM - Thanks for bringing this along. Lovely wine. And good for you to sit on more ;-)
7/1/21, 10:03 AM - Spot on. You were there too? If so who are you - maybe your CT handle is more cryptic than mine ;-)
7/2/21, 2:15 AM - Ah I see :-)
7/1/21, 6:14 AM - Never had Suchots 05. We did have Orveaux 05 and 10 as a pair and the 10 trumped the 05 (but maybe the 05 wasn't a fully clean bottle). For me the jury is still out how much I like 05 as they clearly need more time than the 10s to be pleasurable in a Burgundian way... So imho it's 10 as I can clearly see it (already). Both should be great /are great though.
6/27/21, 1:16 AM - Thank you - glad you find this helpful!
6/17/21, 2:40 AM - Yes, I would agree with that. Don't seek it out for Nuits typicity but for Comte Liger Belair style.
6/12/21, 1:15 AM - Nice tasting note! In terms of share cropping it the plot was owned by Liger-Belair but farmed and bottled by Bouchard until 2001, in 2002 Louis-Michel Liger Belair took back the vineyard to farm himself and bottle the wine under CLB label. However from 02-05 there was a transition period where half the wine was given to Bouchard to bottle and commercialise under their label (the wine had however been made by Louis-Michel).
5/1/21, 1:23 AM - Glad I spared you a few bucks. Surely you'll have plenty of alternative uses ;-)! Cheers.
4/22/21, 8:26 AM - Thanks for your note and pleased you share my views here. Well, let the others have them ;-), there are so many expensive wines out there nowadays that the discerning collector (believes he/she) needs, so let's concentrate on those that at least offer a special and emotional experience (most of the times / sometimes). Nice to think as Taittinger CdC as cellar defender! Cheers, Ben.
3/23/21, 3:52 AM - Sounds like a good plan, certainly a worthy birthday bottle! Hope you and your wife enjoy!
2/8/21, 6:38 AM - I think you are right. It's quite masculine and has such density. Quite grand. A lot better than other recent vintages of this cuvee I think.
1/25/21, 7:57 AM - Thank you. I had a Chassagne Blanchots 17 from him yesterday and it was in a similar vein but I preferred the Clos St Marc marginally and also think this is more for the long haul. I bought a case of the Clos St Marc as off the back of tasting that bottle, still available at a "sensible price" of just over £50 all in.
1/22/21, 12:36 PM - Thanks for the note. I think the price you can buy these is competitive (*i.e. I would be a buyer if you like the wine and can get it at that price)! I think you are right 07 is more hedonistic right now and a lot cheaper. The 96 should have a long future ahead (20 years plus).
1/11/21, 2:23 AM - Hi JJYoyo, yes the 2010s here are very generous but I love it. That being said 2012 which you rightfully point out as more classic and is a terrific wine also (I had it a year ago and loved it) and great vintage of Raveneau.
7/4/19, 8:31 AM - Thank you wineotim! I definitely recommend checking St Pierre out. I "discovered" it with a terrific bottle of 04 (not the best of vintages). I have never had a bad bottle of St Pierre. I think 05, 09, 10 at current price levels are must buys. Those will be wines that can challenge a lot higher priced and better known Chateaux in blind tastings in my view.
7/4/19, 8:58 AM - Hey Purple Tooth! I just ran the maths and for my Bordeaux portfolio in terms of bottle count St Julien makes up 29% (followed by Pauillac 22%, Graves 12%, St Emilion 10%, Margaux 8%, St Estephe and Sauternes/Bersac each 7% and Pomerol 5%).
1/6/21, 8:25 AM - Hello buddy, many thanks 2021 has been off to a strong start on the vino front (just like 2020 ended). Legal drinking year is another excuse although coming from Europe 18 and 16 would be even more auspicious for me! Certainly good move to cellar some of these. I have two cases stashed away which I am sure will provide for superb drinking in 10 years hence and then for the next 20-30 years and make great comparison with other (more expensive) high end Bordeaux. Wishing you a very Happy New Year! Happy sipping!
12/15/20, 8:24 AM - Do you think this has entered its perfect drinking window? If you would drink today how long would you decant? Thanks!
12/16/20, 4:29 AM - Cheers!
12/11/20, 12:52 AM - I must confess that my experience with Dauvissat vs Raveneau in 11 is limited to this blind pair. What I saw there was two wines that were really quite similar and it was tyring to split hairs. I will say that Raveneau MdT 11 from Magnum had recently also blind was more open than this Clos from standard. So in short I think it's probably to early to jump to conclusions about those Clos 11 at this point. Sorry not to be able to be of that much help.
11/15/20, 1:35 PM - Hi Dave, honestly I do not know. I can’t understand the very high critics points based on what I tasted. I sold a case of this recently as I just feel life is too short and the world of wine offers so many other options. Still have quite a few bottles in various mixes cases so will check in again in ten years or so with low hopes.
11/6/20, 7:40 AM - Haha - maybe the one thing more disappointing would be to have a full case? I also have a half case and I rated it 88 and think it is OK to drink but I am also not crazy about this wine. Having had a few bottles now it feels a bit too "aggressive" on the acidic and mineral attack and is a bit off balance with the fruit. I also have been drinking PJ Kuehn Quarzit 18 in paralell and given both same price point the conclusion has been easy that the Kuehn is by far the better wine in all aspects. Feels to me the Keller is overrated on CT.
11/7/20, 9:54 AM - I just ripped off the band aid and drunk up ;-) I felt in Riedel Rheingau sommelier glas it did not show well. It showed a bit better from Zalto Universal and especially on day 2. Hope that helps to make those bottles more palatable.
10/19/20, 8:37 AM - Thanks for that. Any particular vintages you recommend for that wine?
10/19/20, 8:42 AM - Thank you! I will go looking!
10/17/20, 10:38 AM - Hi Dave, yes there is definitely some yeast which is lovely on both nose and palat, it is quite leesy. You will find the disgorgement date on the back label at the very bottom. Let me know how you get on and I hope your bottles are in a good spot. Cheers, Ben.
10/10/20, 1:25 PM - I think at age 50 that is something that can be quite "normal", especially in non blockbuster vintages. I uncorked the bottle at home to see if it was sound and tasted a little and felt it really delicate and beautiful immediately with some core sweetness. I knew this was not going to do well with too much air so I recorked and brought to dinner and advised to serve it without prior decant. With old vintages every single bottle will be different so key is to try on uncorking and then make an assessment. As the saying goes with old wines "no great wines just great bottles"... so important to "listen" to the bottle. Hope that helps.
10/2/20, 6:21 AM - Just to enquire did you log this correctly as 2017 or should it be 2015 (as you said you nailed it guessing 15 made me think it is possibly logged wrong)? Thanks.
10/5/20, 10:00 AM - OK - thank you!
9/24/20, 5:27 AM - Hello - that will make for a lovely birthday bottle for sure! I would not decant the wine. Generally speaking I would never decant young red burgundies without trying. I would pop the cork and see how it shows in the glass (using a wide glass ideally Zalto Burgundy). Then you might decide to decant and follow the wine. I do not know how many bottles you have, probably stating the obvious is that this wine although terrific now should be even better in 10-15 years. Let me know how you get on and enjoy the bottle and happy birthday to your wife.
9/24/20, 6:42 AM - That is a nice position to be in - hope you enjoy!
7/23/20, 1:41 AM - What did you guess? Chaumes?
7/24/20, 9:50 AM - Thanks for that. Well not a bad wine then (as I love Reignots from CLB and especially his 07!)...
2/6/20, 4:00 AM - This isn't a Montrachet. It's a Chassagne 1er...
1/31/20, 7:52 AM - Thank you for your kind words! I would (strongly) recommend to buy Comtes and Dom. They do look like very good value. I think in both cases they are comparable to the great 1995s and if you look at prices for 1995s they sell for double. So buy those 2004s now, they can be drunk now but they will be even better in a decade time and will make you smile I think.
1/31/20, 8:09 AM - I think that 1995 is a lot better than its reputation and is up there with the 1996s. It is also a remarkable consistent vintage. But 1996 is also gorgeous of course and for example Dom 1996 is a great great champagne. So in short they are both great vintages in my mind. 2004 is not at the level of 1995, but in the case of Dom and Comtes I feel those are. Hope that helps.
1/9/20, 6:25 AM - I am almost at the point where I prefer any champagne to Roederer NV ;-)
1/8/20, 6:52 AM - The wine/juice itself yes (vineyard worked by LM Liger Belair fully). It is however not "exactly" the same. Comte Liger Bealir wine is not racked or filtered. Bouchard is racked and possibly filtered. I haven't had them side by side but given market prices I feel if you can get your hands on the Bouchard Reignots from 02-05 those are gems...
12/30/19, 7:48 AM - I would hold this one in particular - probably 3-5 years. But I doubt it will ever be as good as the St Nikolaus 2016. I feel the 2015 Doosberg here is quite a lot better and drinking now already.
12/25/19, 8:24 AM - I would pull the cork and taste it as with this age bottle variation is almost a given. If it is a perfect bottle then a half hour to hour decant and then get stuck in and follow it’s evolution is probably best. Hope you enjoy and let us know how you get on!
12/10/19, 9:31 AM - Croix Rouge in Bouzy was last part of the 2004 vintage - as phylloxera affected that parcel thereafter. From 2005 vintage Bollinger's VVF is based purely on vines from the two parcels of Ay.
12/9/19, 6:33 AM - It is probably un-Bouchard like as it was made by Louis-Michel ;-) The only difference of La Romanee Comte Liger Belair vs Bouchard (aside from label) is that Louis-Michel filled Bouchard barrels (so different oak treatment, racking and filling).
12/9/19, 6:29 AM - This wine has been made by Louis-Michel and the only difference of La Romanee 2002, 3, 4, and 05 vintages other than the labels is that he filled Bouchard's barrels - i.e. same wine but different oak regime, racking and bottling.
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