4/15/24, 8:03 PM - Ah, yes I do think there is more upside / potential, but some of these bottles are unduly oxidized and age too quickly, so I guess it depends on your risk tolerance and patience. I think this wine is in a decent drinking window right now, it’s definitely not too young.
4/15/24, 7:58 PM - Thank you very much for this. Super interesting. That makes total sense / checks out as the cork had V551 printed on it, so 2005 disgorgement and 2000 base vintage.
1/5/24, 4:05 PM - Opening one tonight. Good looking bottle. Hopefully it shows as well as yours.
10/13/22, 5:14 PM - Yeah, this can be a towering masterpiece of a wine. My friend's bottle. My 2007 Roulot Perrieres was off too. Tough lunch up here in Vancouver...
1/28/22, 12:46 PM - Would you buy one again, or do you feel these are unduly risky or problematic?
12/24/21, 2:07 PM - Thanks Seth. To the extent you have any bottles remaining you must be pretty high equity! Yes, this is glorious wine, and I think Beaumonts as a site is pretty special as well, Rouget used to do an outstanding job there too. Very interesting to see Leroy's interpretation. I would say it totally works. These 1991's are sort of age-defying as well.
11/10/21, 3:22 PM - Hi Freddie,Ominously this bottle was from Acker’s ‘The Cellar I’ in 2006, which was notoriously one of the first big Rudy Kurniwan sales. We examined the cork which was correctly branded. Hard to say if this was a fake or genuine cork. My instinct is that this was a real bottle honestly corked, but impossible to know. I didn’t think Rudy did much forgery with TCA and thought much of his ‘brilliance’ was his ability to make such superb fakes as to pass for the real thing. I’m also not sure that ‘90 Dujac would have been the sort of bottle to forge back in 2006. Interesting in any case. The backup from the same generous source (different provenance) was a ‘93 Clos St. Denis which was excellent but on which I did not get proper notes as it was rather late in the evening after an exhaustive line up.
11/8/21, 6:45 PM - Great review. Coincidentally I had this at a generous friend's birthday 11/03/2021 and felt similarly.
11/8/21, 4:11 PM - Hi William, I just posted a note on my very disappointing magnum drank last week... Do you have any additional intel / resources on the '96 vintage at Engel, or the domaine generally? Thank you.
11/8/21, 4:09 PM - Very disappointing. It looks like William Kelley knows something about the '96 corks at Engel based on his 2015 note below - I'm going to ask.
11/7/21, 6:21 PM - That's pretty unbelievable chance. Had the same wine on the same date. Were you at Eleven Madison Park in NY that night? Hah.
11/7/21, 6:38 PM - Hah, that's amazing - Your bottle sounds better than mine - I'll send you a note if I ever make it back to Hong Kong - Cheers
11/7/21, 6:28 PM - 'Bowl of diamonds' is perfect - Missed you this past trip brother.
6/22/21, 3:58 PM - Some of the best value in Champagne eh?
5/3/21, 6:31 PM - Great note, captured it really well. I have a limited data set with these sorts of Giacosas and I feel similar to what you've described here.
4/12/21, 5:28 PM - Nailed it with your review. Drank one of these an hour ago and it totally reminded me of DP as well... That combination of brioche, subtle smoke, and crisp apple.
3/24/21, 5:56 PM - What's the drinking window, in your opinion? How much would be left on the table by drinking tonight?
3/17/21, 2:44 PM - Hi Martin - Yes, I would agree. Furthermore I would say this a different and more modern style of winemaking than older vintages, one which features heavy extraction and intense concentration. La Mouline is traditionally the softest of the three Guigal LaLas, but there wasn't anything restrained or elegant about this yet. I am a bad judge of young / modern wine though. My experience with '80s and '90s LaLas is mostly terrific.
2/10/21, 11:57 AM - Please try and take it easy on the rare / extinct / defunct untila. I make it back to NYC, orb. you make it to Whistler or Rivers InletThanks,
12/27/20, 11:23 AM - Hey kr522, thank you for the kind note and important point. That’s a great question about the ratings, it’s a tough call for sure. I checked and it looks like I’ve dropped 100 three times and 99 three to five times, and a handful of 98s over my five years of posting on CellarTracker. This ‘89 Haut-Brion could easily be any of those, no doubt about it, quite frankly it probably is given the longevity it’s showing in addition to all the expression and detail. Are there really three levels of drinking superior to this? Maybe. I’d say yes, although this certainly is in that pantheon. Probably part of the reason I held back is that when I lived in New York a couple years ago I was so fortunate to go to a ton of Acker and other events that featured literally the greatest wines of all time, ‘78 RC, ‘90s Jayer, ‘28 and ‘45 Mouton, Truchot, Engel, that sort of insanity, and so I guess in exceedingly rare circumstances there are a handful of examples that show even more of the kaleidoscope and peacock than ‘89 HB. John Kapon once told me that 97 is the entry-level score for one of the greatest wines of your life, and I think that’s appropriate in this case. I checked and this is the only wine I’ve rated 97 all year. Anyway, I guess my response is twofold and hedged: yeah, there are a couple superior wines out there, but also, at this level, they are all sort of in the same realm of greatness. I don’t like using points anyway, for these sorts of reasons. When this Covid nonsense winds down and I visit NYC again we can link up at an auction or something and explore that space between 97 and 100, hah. All the best.
12/16/20, 7:44 PM - From my cellar but a 2017 auction acquisition. In great shape, I just don’t care for these sorts of things stylistically.
11/24/20, 3:49 PM - Great review. Nailed it regarding density. Miss seeing you around the Acker events.
11/23/20, 7:48 PM - Thanks, bidding on a single now.
11/23/20, 7:39 PM - Great note. I have very few experiences with Lamarche and the last was several years ago. Was about to hit the bid on a few on the rookie theory “it’s literally between La Tâche and Romanée-Conti, how bad can it be?” Quick check on CT to see if any pals had anything to say and your review nailed it - Thank you.
9/30/20, 2:03 PM - "Time after time, however, I fail to see the mystique of this cuvée" - Great line and couldn't agree more.
4/10/20, 9:47 PM - This and your 06/16/19 note capture the wine well. Definitely a bit of a letdown. I find a ton of variance in Grivot, and am less keen on Clos Vougeot than most.
12/25/19, 5:33 PM - So, ‘89 was the first vintage of Rouget bottling Cros P under his own label, but what is the consensus as to who was doing the winemaking on this? Is this the hand of Jayer?
12/24/19, 9:57 AM - So, ‘89 is the first year of Rouget bottling Cros P under his own label, but what is the consensus as to who was the winemaker? Do we think this is the hand of Jayer?
10/10/19, 9:23 AM - I think they’re pretty robust wines and stylistically quite oaked, so I think they could stand up to as much air as you care to give them. Based on my experience with these I can’t image they will change too much after any more than 90 - 120 minutes in a decanter. I certainly don’t think you’d be hurting it by giving it that much.
3/31/19, 2:13 PM - Good to know. I own one, came with some reds, no idea what to do with it. You’d think ‘03 would at least show some bombastic overripeness.
12/13/18, 3:41 PM - Hmm, was hoping to have the one bottle of this I've got sooner rather than later, guess we'll wait. Thanks KS.
6/13/18, 12:22 AM - This was a Segram Chateau & Estate bottle. From a collection in NYC sent over for the event.I thought the only time the Bonnes Mares were bottled (and labeled) differently was ‘88 with the Vieilles Vignes?Thanks
4/26/18, 11:02 AM - Thats unbelievable. Were you able to follow up with the auction house or retailer?
6/25/17, 12:23 PM - Yeah Ispendtoomuchmoneyonwine, huge Bruce fan. Thought 'Darkness on the Edge of Vosne' would be a good cellar tracker handle as well.
11/24/15, 12:40 PM - Yes, everything double decanted. The '83 was in the second flight of a huge vertical so it had only been open for about 90 minutes. Would certainly give these wines longer.
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