12/25/23, 10:48 AM - This is a vintage/vineyard/producer combo that will demand time to truly open up. Hopefully you have a bottle that you can wait until 2035 to open...I imagine this will be ready to reward after 25+ years in the bottle. Thanks for sharing your note!
11/16/23, 6:24 AM - Is it possible that this is just too soon for this wine? I love Burgundy & Rhone wines, but wouldn't be opening most of them from 2019 (unless it's to learn about the specific wine that I have not yet tasted). I had my first of four bottles of this set aside to check in on my first bottle in 2027ish. Thanks for sharing your note, it's always nice to hear about wines you've not yet had a chance to open.
10/22/23, 2:03 PM - Wow! That's a total surprise...I expected these to not be ready for another 6-8ish years. Thanks for the heads up. Did you decant for sediment?
10/3/23, 12:54 PM - So maybe in 8-10 years when the baby fat has fallen away?
9/8/23, 11:11 AM - It's been a few years since I tasted this, I look forward to opening my last bottle in the next year or so. Thanks for sharing your notes.
8/19/23, 2:57 AM - It will all depend on your palate, but for me these wines don't blossom to show the full spectrum of complexities until they are at least 15 years old. They do taste lovely along the way, but if you're seeking a more profound experience with this wine...I would strongly encourage you to hold just one bottle until it's at least 15 years old. Having said that, if you like more fruit in your Pinot Noir then drinking on the younger side, like you suggest is certainly the way to go. Thanks for sharing your note & thoughts on this wine.
8/9/23, 8:53 AM - I brought a magnum of this to a friend's birthday back in February and it was on fire...load up before the price triples. Thanks for the update on the wine.
7/4/23, 6:15 AM - Yes, these are wines that demand time and do not start to show the real level of complexity until they start entering into the 20-25 year post-vintage years of life. Best to bury these deep in the cellar and pull them out at retirement.
4/9/23, 8:51 AM - This is a wine that based on my experience needs a minimum of 20 years to settle & start showing all that it has in store. I had one in it's youth but this is one of 3 wines I have from Barolo that I will be waiting for 22-25 years post vintage before I open my next bottle. With this wine, patience is certainly rewarded.
12/27/22, 1:07 PM - I’ve got 5 bottles & 2 Mags of this. I don’t plan to open any of those before 2029. This is a wine that will reward patience, but if you have a 6 pack or more, I think there’s value in opening one early. Hopefully my note will help you hold off & age these, as there is so much potential here.
12/22/22, 5:44 PM - I'm curious why you opened a classically styled Barolo, in magnum that is only 14 years old? It sounds to me like you opened the wine at least 10 - 15 years too soon.
11/18/22, 2:41 PM - I too had this wine for the first time this past year and completely agree with you. One of the greatest wines I've had this year...and it just edged out the 2019 Chave Hermitage Blanc.
9/14/22, 4:09 PM - Honey/Lemon color...? Is this a tasting note for the blanc?
4/17/22, 7:33 PM - Excellent note, thank you for the update. I think you're spot on about the differenced between the '93 & '95 based on my past experiences with these wines. We'll be opening a horizontal of the '95 Musar (red/white/rose) in the near term. Hopefully we'll have this good of a showing when we do. Thank you.
4/14/22, 7:55 PM - I couldn’t agree more. It’s not common to see another Mainer posting notes here. It’s nice to see there are some others with this passion in our state. Do you have a local area wine group? We have a small one here in the Bangor area…but not many folks up here drink Beaucastel or other similar wines often. Thanks for the note.
1/28/22, 7:33 AM - As a side note, the cork was oddly starting to get saturated in an un-even pattern. I will not be aging any more of my Thomas wines at this point. Sadly, that also means I am done buying as well.
4/5/22, 6:12 AM - I wonder if it's storage temp, or serving temp? We store at 55 & consume the wine a bit chillier 48-55. I do always decant, and this was from a Conterno Sensory glass. I do believe glasses have a huge impact. If you love Pinot Noir...the Conterno Sensory glass is a must.
3/28/22, 5:18 PM - Spot on...I don't know what happened with the 2015, but I agree with you fully. It was not on par with the 2011-13's I had.
3/24/22, 6:01 AM - These wines have always been of a deeper color than the Keller GGs in my experience.
3/10/22, 5:19 AM - Just a head's up, this is from Castiglione Falletto, not Serralunga. Seems like you might still need to be on the hunt for a wine from Serralunga that you can enjoy. I'd suggest trying out Brovia's Barolo Brea Vigna Ca'mia. It's a favorite of mine, and I equally enjoy Cavallotto. Cheers, and thanks for the update on this wine.
3/15/22, 5:43 PM - Well, hopefully the Brovia will give you a win for Serralunga d'Alba. Thanks for the note on this bottle, it's always nice to hear from others that are pulling corks of wines you have.
3/13/22, 7:41 AM - I could be wrong, but I believe this bottling is young vines in Les Clos, planted in 2009. The average price of the 2019 Les Clos on wine-searcher is $3,134. This wine may not be as intense, or complex, but maybe in time...it will be one of the most affordable ways to try wines made by Raveneau.
3/10/22, 2:09 PM - Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I only have two bottles of this, any idea when you think this might be more "open"? I was thinking 2034 as the earliest...but would love to hear some more thoughts from you about when you think this might show a little more. Based on what you've shared, it sounds quite primary at this time...
1/29/22, 7:08 PM - I couldn't agree more, this is a wine that is worth buying a full case of and will only get better with time. I cannot wait to taste this wine when it's 20-25 years old. I don't know how long this will be easily available...I would stock up on this wine while you can. It's special, and one of those rare wines that will last a long time, and only get harder & harder to find in any quantity.
1/28/22, 7:31 AM - I had similar issued with the 2013's with bad corks. So I've decided to start drinking these wines younger than I had planned. Sorry to hear it was still a problem with the 2015's. Incidentally I opened a lovely 2017 the other night that was possibly the best young OR Pinot that I've had, but the cork had a long red streak up the side where the cork was starting to look saturated. Way, way too young for a cork to start getting saturated...and with such an odd appearance. I didn't think to mention it in my note...but seeing your note made me think of it.
1/11/22, 5:15 AM - Yes, this wine will certainly outlive me...and will likely outlive those being born this year so long as there is proper storage.
11/30/21, 3:16 PM - Thanks, it’s funny how as time passes I forget that I posted about some wines. I should have bought more…but then again, I usually say that to myself. :-)
6/5/21, 6:24 PM - The last time I opened the 2005 I thought the same thing, that it needed another 5-7 years; and that was about 4 years ago. My guess is that the 2015 will need at least another 8-10 years. These wines age at a glacial pace.
3/31/21, 12:27 PM - Sounds like the wine is closed for business right now. I’d suggest checking in again in 10+ years
3/17/21, 6:52 PM - This sounds like heat damage. Can I ask where you bought these bottles?
2/4/21, 6:46 PM - This is a wine that has always needed a minimum of 3-4 years sideways before it really shows it's promise. Hearing that it's showing this well this early in life has me very hopeful for my bottles when they arrive. Thanks for the sacrifice.
2/1/21, 6:45 PM - @ FredericoWines: I think what you’re observing is that I too would not pay $100 for a wine of the same quality to drink tonight. However, in another 6+ years I expect this wine will blossom into something that a $30 bottle cannot. My comment is about this wine, at this time, based on my perception. I don’t tend to like young wines, so I find this wine to be a waste to open now. However, I also expect that this will become a benchmark wine in another 10-25+ years.
2/1/21, 11:44 AM - Unfortunately, yes. I’ve shifted my next drink date to 2026 after last night’s experience.
1/28/21, 10:42 AM - Haha! I got married in 2019. So it’s a note to myself to buy this wine’s 2019 vintage.
1/11/21, 10:07 AM - My bottle was not marked as Blanc de Blanc, it’s “Special Club”
1/1/21, 11:49 PM - I'm sorry to hear this was a disappointment for you. It's never fun to have your hopes for greatness fall flat. This may not help, but I have found that trying to open my "special wines" with the bio-dynamic calendar has decreased my let-downs. I use two apps (moon garden) & (When Wine) together to figure out the ideal times for some wines. You can't only drink wines on fruit or flower days...but for leaf days I try to stick to wines I've got multiples of. NYE was a leaf day this year. *also, I have no vested interest in either app...I'm just a wine geek trying to get the most I can from my special wines.
12/30/20, 11:38 AM - I think your comment is probably off on how long folks need to wait. Considering that it's 2020 and the 2010's & 2013's are still a wall of tannin. This is a wine that (to me) demands at least another decade (or more) sideways from today.
12/24/20, 9:51 AM - Rich, this is a really great find for another "value" Rosé Champagne. If you have not tried this producer's cuvee 1911 it's worth the increased price to check out.
12/21/20, 5:03 AM - Based on the experience I had with this last night I am already thinking I might open the Red Barn Block the next time I want a Pinot.
12/14/20, 7:11 AM - Like you, I like both. I find the BS to be the feminine & the Vilmart to be the masculine...if that makes sense.
11/20/20, 7:12 PM - The bottle is obnoxiously large, the top was triple dipped in wax. There were actually layers of wax when I pulled out the cork. I really like their wines, but do not like the over-the-top “big bottle” look.
10/21/20, 7:26 PM - Jason, if you like to drink older wines, it's worth investing in a Durrand. While they are pricy, it has successfully opened every old bottle of wine I've used it on (I think going back as far as a 1946 vintage). I love Musar, and they become something quite special when they're 25+ years old...but the Durrand is always on hand if I'm opening anything pre-2004. I think you're spot on with your comparison to old VT from the 90's. We had a magnum of 1993 a few years back that was very Musar-esque. Thanks for the note! I look forward to reading more from you in the future.
9/10/20, 5:11 PM - Was this from Magnum? Or was this from a 750ml?? I'm asking because I do have a magnum and I'm wondering if/when I might want to open it.
3/11/20, 6:48 PM - I went out & bought 6 more after tasting it. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I did mine. It was so very special...and completely stood out among great wines that night. Thanks for sharing!
7/21/20, 1:40 PM - I would pair this with lobster, Roasted Chicken, pork chops, scallops, anything that is lite & flavorful.
5/16/20, 7:19 AM - If you two ever decide you'd like more SQN. I have a pair of the 2013 & 2014 EBA's (4 bottles total), I'd be happy to sell them to someone that will enjoy them like it seems you two do. I'm in Maine, but make it down to the Waltham area 2-3 times/year.
4/3/20, 6:12 PM - If you have any more bottles you want to trade, maybe we could talk...I love this wine.
2/28/20, 1:34 PM - The 1999 is just starting to really open up. Maybe this is about 10 years too early for such a structured and high quality vintage?
2/15/20, 7:57 PM - @gotfunk, that's actually really good information to have and it does make some sense. Thanks for sharing!
2/15/20, 7:54 PM - This wine was barely bottled in the past year...if you can give the wine some time sideways, hopefully it will give you and Gale the experience you're both hoping for...
2/10/20, 5:37 AM - @RMALLOY - I'd encourage you to hold onto this bottle for 8-10 years and then check in again. If you're seeking a more advanced Champagne try Billecart Salmon's Cuvee Nicolas or some NV that are made for immediate enjoyment. I hope this helps...It's a shame to spend this kind of money on a wine you're not enjoying. Cheers!
1/12/20, 5:50 PM - MiMesis, It sounds like you had an off or a bad bottle. The '99 is still a baby in realm of Musar. While it is certainly starting to show some age...if you can get a good bottle, it's still 10-15+ years away from the end of it's life. When it's still this young, it will show it's best with a 2-4 hour decant. It's really cool to see you getting in depth with this producer, I think tastings like the one you went to are the best way to really understand this producer as well. Thanks for the updates on 1999 - 2004.
10/2/19, 8:41 AM - @ Ron F. Thanks for the kind thoughts! We really had a lovely, small, and ideal day. It’s funny, I always told myself I was collecting wines to share for special occasions and this was a wine that many loved. John makes really special wines.
Thanks for letting us know about this problem. We will review your comments and be in touch soon with an update.
Search