10/14/22, 2:06 PM - Planning to drink a bottle with a friend next week. Did you decant or air the wine before serving?
1/9/23, 5:07 AM - Thanks! Actually we drank a bottle last Friday (I opened the bottle 1.5 hours before serving). Terrific wine indeed!
12/27/22, 1:56 PM - Top shoulder even. The seller had written that the bottle had not been stored in optimal condition but it didn't seem to me that the bottle was flawed.
12/27/22, 11:27 PM - Based on my experience, the wine was in a very good place. Perhaps I would open the bottle one hour before drinking instead of 30 minutes.And for the price you paid on release, this should be a great experience ;)
12/28/22, 12:32 PM - Thank you and to you as well!
12/20/22, 10:14 PM - Indeed ;)https://www.cellartracker.com/event.asp?iEvent=44700
12/16/22, 12:18 AM - Merci de votre commentaire. J'ai récemment acheté un carton. En général, j'hésite à ouvrir ce type de vin jeune, mais les dernières notes, dont la vôtre, semblent indiquer que le vin est dans une bonne phase.Avez-vous carafé avant de servir ou du moins ouvert la bouteille quelques heures avant dégustation?
12/5/22, 4:49 AM - After reading this note, I couldn't help but buy a case of these. My wallet doesn't say thank you :)
11/23/22, 7:21 AM - Wow, it looks like a tasting from hell!
11/21/22, 7:54 AM - Was contemplating buying 1-2 bottles. After reading your note I might as well pull the trigger!
11/10/22, 1:32 AM - Thanks for your note. I bought a bottle in an auction a couple of years ago and had forgotten about it. I don't have much experience with older white wines and wanted to ask you for advice as to how to drink the wine. Would you serve it with food or is it a wine that would be best drunk on its own?
11/10/22, 5:27 AM - Thank you, much appreciated!
11/1/22, 12:30 AM - Thanks for the note, I may get my hands on one from recent vintages.I've only recently started buying wine from South Africa and I find the quality to be off the charts, especially considering the price (all the more so when bought there). Very innovative stuff going on as well.
10/4/22, 9:13 AM - Sounds like an awful wine 🙃
9/21/22, 7:24 AM - Excellent point regarding the storage conditions! I don't have much experience on long term storage of fine wine but based on what I have read about this, I have the feeling that we now consider as "average" storing conditions that would have been considered as "perfect" 10 or 20 years ago.For my part, I think that wine is a living object and should be exposed to variations of temperatures that reflect the seasons. As long as these variations are gradual, the wine should be fine. I also think that relatively high temperatures for a while are not an issue provided there is no direct exposure to a source of natural light. I also think that wines that remain at a constant low temperature will never evolve as they should or at a glacial pace. That said, this is just my opinion based on what I have read so far. Perhaps I am totally wrong. And yes, I guess white wines are more sensitive than reds.
9/20/22, 9:11 AM - Thanks for the note. What do you think would be a "fair" price for this wine?
9/20/22, 12:06 PM - Thank you. I've never tasted the wine but am curious about it. I got an offer for 150 CHF a bottle (red or white). I guess I may fall for it ;)
9/6/22, 1:16 PM - Thank you guys for your notes! It's definitely a wine I'd like to taste with a good friend of mine. Did you decant the wine before serving? Did you serve it with food?
9/6/22, 1:25 PM - Thanks!
9/3/22, 6:09 AM - Just snatched 6 bottles at an auction for around 35 CHF each. I look forward to trying them based on your note!
8/29/22, 1:53 AM - Thank you for this comment, based on which I checked out your profile. You must have witnessed quite a few changes in the Californian wine industry!I get your point, which perhaps could be made about other successful wine regions. Regarding California, I was under the impression that there may be a trend towards more authenticity of late. And wouldn't you say that estates like Ridge have always kept a reasonable profile? Just a few questions from a non-specialist ;)
8/28/22, 5:56 AM - Drinking a bottle right now and had exactly the same thought regarding nose v palate.
8/28/22, 10:57 AM - I have a feeling that LB remains a great value year in year out. And still relatively affordable.
8/13/22, 11:16 PM - Glad I have one in my cellar.It seems to me that among the blue chips of fine wines, Chave is the most reliable on delivering the goods. Unfortunately I don't have allocations and have to source my bottles on the market or at auctions. I sometimes feel I should forgo a case of mid-range bdx to save the budget for a bottle of Chave.
8/4/22, 7:49 AM - Juste realized your TN dates back to 1990 (!)I guess I should drink my only bottle sooner than later ;)
7/4/22, 9:31 AM - Thanks for the review. Could you be a bit more specific about these Italian gems? I'd like to know if I have the same ones in mind :)
6/25/22, 11:28 PM - These are high-stake issues for somebody like me as I just have one bottle ;). Probably better to leave alone for a bit more time
6/9/22, 10:32 AM - BEST REVIEW EVER 🤣
6/8/22, 11:34 AM - I bought a magnum based on your review (see uploaded picture). Let's see if it still has something in the tank 😀
6/4/22, 11:40 PM - Based on your other notes, I believe the other wines tasted came from Château Cantenac Brown (I liked the punch line at the end of your CT on Cantenac Brown 2015)
6/2/22, 12:31 AM - Thank you for this note! I have one bottle, perhaps I will try to get a second one.Re Chapoutier: being a Bordeaux fan, I didn't think much of Syrah until I tasted a Le Méal rouge 1999 a couple of years ago. Probably one of the best wines I've ever drunk. Since then, I've tried to get my hands on some more Hermitage from this producer provided the prices are relatively. Last year I drank a Pavillon 1997 and it was rather underwhelming. I guess it's hit or miss
5/14/22, 2:46 AM - Congratulations on your 1,000th Bordeaux note. Quite a milestone!I have two bottles of this and upon reading your comment, I think I may open one soon and keep the second for 2035 or so ("si Dieu nous prête vie", as my dad would say).
5/9/22, 10:02 AM - That came from a previous CT: https://www.cellartracker.com/note.asp?iWine=58933&iNote=9703830Will never forget that note!
4/25/22, 5:36 AM - Thank you for your feedback and santé!
4/11/22, 1:33 PM - Ok guys. Being on the continent, I NEVER open my bordeaux this young. But based on the CTs, I plan to make an exception this weekend and take a bottle to my parents'. The question remains: PnP oder short decant? Santé
4/4/22, 11:15 PM - Certainly a divine punishment for taking a cali cab to a French bistro.
3/31/22, 12:31 PM - Thanks for your notes on the 2019 vintage! I believe you have interverted the drinking windows of Poyferré and Las Cases
3/21/22, 2:59 AM - Nice note, but I assume you wanted to rate this wine a bit higher than 80 points ;)
2/17/22, 11:28 AM - Just bought 6 bottles based on your note (among others). At 20 CHF a bottle, I didn't take a big risk 😉
2/2/22, 11:05 AM - Thank you for your comment! I really enjoyed the wine at lunch. We had the rest of the bottle for dinner and the wine had markedly declined by then. I still have three bottles and will probably drink them over the next five years with people that don't know about Clos Manou. Santé!
1/25/22, 2:02 AM - Thanks. My writing was not so precise. I meant that the wines from Paso Robles I enjoyed were blends based mostly on Syrah.I've sold a bottle after this bad experience, will wait a bit for the next ones and make sure I open them enough in advance (in this particular case, I opened this bottle because the wine I had planned initially was not drinkable).
11/21/21, 12:54 PM - Very interesting tasting story, thanks a lot! I'm feeling inspired to try something similar with my friends, but it's not always easy to find reasonably priced napa cabs in Switzerland. Furthermore, Mayacamas is sadly impossible to find here.
9/10/21, 7:23 AM - Just bought 2 bottles at an auction. Let's see how it has held up since 2012!
11/14/21, 1:08 AM - Done ;)Very good wine, thank you for your TN
11/11/21, 11:40 PM - "as the cellar is full and I’m trying to be more responsible in my wine buying"Aren't we all ;)
11/2/21, 1:06 PM - Thank you for this note. What do you think of the ageing potential of this wine? I just have one bottle and wine-loving guests visiting us in two weeks and was thinking of serving this as it seems to be in a great phase. That said, it'd be interesting to see how it evolves with time.
10/19/21, 10:35 AM - Drinking the 2017 right now, your review is spot on :)
10/10/21, 9:34 AM - Good evening. I came across this note as I would like to share a bottle of this wine with a good friend of mine that has never tasted a Gantenbein wine. This will be a first for me too.Having a look at the heated discussion from 7 years ago, I was wondering what is your current view on the quality of Swiss wines. I am Swiss myself but was never so convinced about our local production. However, there seems to be a move toward more quality and I think for example that with regard to Pinot noir, a lot is going on especially in the German speaking part. That said, based on this article https://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/swiss-wines-home-and-abroad, there is still a lot of work to do!And yeah, Chasselas will always taste awful.
10/16/21, 1:41 PM - Good evening. Thanks for your very interesting response. I'll ask you again in 7 years ;). We had the Gantenbein yesterday and I really enjoyed it even though I am not so fond of Pinot noir. It was followed by a Haut-Bailly 1990 that was sublime. Looking at the TNs for that wine, I believe you liked it as well :)
2/14/20, 11:49 AM - Thank you! I've bought a couple of bottles based on your tasting note
9/12/21, 11:36 PM - I drank my remaining bottle yesterday. It remains youthful (the colour while pouring looked like that of a Beaujolais) and has a beautiful bouquet. Glad I was able to taste this wine.
8/10/21, 10:36 PM - Thank you for this TN. I am somewhat confused: does it speak of the 1981 vintage or is it about the famed 1982 vintage?
7/26/21, 11:30 PM - "Double decanted for 2 years prior to tasting.": that's a very long decant indeed
7/8/21, 7:43 AM - Very interesting discussion here, thank you guys!I am rather a Bordeaux type, but since I drank a bottle of Le Méal 1999 by Chapoutier, I've been very interested in Syrah and other Rhone varietals upon which I bumped into Andremily wines and this note. Andremily's recent vintages are available at decent prices here in Switzerland so I bought a couple of bottles of Syrah, EABA and Mourvedre and look forward to trying them. I usually buy only one of each, so I am not sure whether I should open them now or wait a little. I was also considering buying a mixed case of LaLaLa 2017 by Guigal to have tried it once in my life, but my money would seem better spent on Andremily's wines, all the more so since the Guigal wines won't be ready for another 20 years at least.
7/8/21, 1:06 PM - Thanks a lot for your response!
10/20/18, 12:55 PM - Do you think that there is any chance that this wine is still enjoyable 19 year’s after? Same question for Lafleur-Gazin 1981.
10/20/18, 10:28 PM - Thank you very much for your response. I may give them a try, as they would be available at 10 USD/bottle in an auction.
8/18/19, 12:24 PM - We opened Rouget 1981 and Lafleur-Gazin 1981 yesterday for my birthday. Both bottles were in good condition, but the guests enjoyed the latter much more than the former. That said, I would not recommend buying any of these wines in this vintage as they were quite tired and were not particularly enjoyable (not that we expected anything special in the first place).
8/18/19, 2:54 PM - Thank you. You are spot on: I actually bought a Pichon Comtesse 1981 at an auction in 2017 and drank it shortly afterwards, it was excellent.
8/18/19, 9:13 PM - Done. I hadn’t used this function yet, so you are the first :). That said, I almost always take your notes into account before deciding on a purchase. They have played a role quite a few times! Haven’t tried the wines you mentioned yet.
6/26/21, 11:52 PM - By the way, I had my bottle of World's End yesterday. Good wine and in a perfect drinking window I think.
6/20/21, 12:12 AM - Interesting note thank you! I have one bottle of the 2018 and saw that the 2017 is still available for less than 150 CHF here in Switzerland. May try to get one or two.Talking about Syrah I reckon you've also had wines from Northern Rhône (Côte Rôtie or Hermitage). How does it compare?
5/21/21, 7:22 AM - Somebody celebrating their 40th birthday ;)? I was myself born in 1981 and am glad to read that Cheval Blanc was singing. I also have a bottle of Lafite that won't make it past this year.
5/30/21, 5:59 AM - Thank you! Will let you know
3/5/21, 6:44 AM - I've come across your note in looking at CTs on 1964s Bordeaux as I have the opportunity to buy Magnums of Paveil de Luze from this vintage for 25 CHF apiece. I understand that the harvests that year were marred by heavy rains and that Left Bank wines should be avoided. However, the notes on cellartracker are not so bad, also for Margaux. Have you had any chance to taste any 1964 lately?
3/7/21, 8:27 AM - Thank you for your response! I purchased the whole lot as it was not possible to buy separate bottles. Not expecting much, but we'll see. A picture of the bottles can be seen here: https://auktionen.steinfelsweine.ch/Auktion/Onlinekatalog?stringFreitext=luze+1964&stringEbene1=Bordeaux+2&stringEbene2=Ch%C3%A2teau+Paveil+de+Luze By the way, I've started buying wines at auctions in 2016 or so. At that time, you could still find some hidden gems, but it seems to me now that prices have recently gone through the roof.
3/8/21, 9:50 AM - Thank you for the advice. I will let you know how it went (I just need to find volunteers).
5/30/21, 5:59 AM - So, we opened a magnum of Paveil de Luze 1964 yesterday. I used a bilame corkscrew and it worked quite well as the cork was still in a relatively good shape. Upon opening the wine smelt musty, so I let the wine air for a while following your advice. We then drank the magnum over lunch. The color was incredible, crimson, no bricking at all. In the mouth, good acidity and tertiary aromas. Overall, very pleasant even though the wine wasn't very complex.
5/30/21, 5:52 AM - Although I am more used to reading your notes on bottles from Carter Cellars, Myriad and the Realm (one of the few US cabs in this price range that can be found in Switzerland), I enjoyed your comment on Sociando 2003. Did you drink from a bottle or magnum? Cheers
4/17/21, 1:05 PM - I had a bottle of this yesterday night with friends. I believe that it was my first Hermitage and probably in the top 3 of the wines I have drunk so far. Stunning wine.
4/22/21, 11:30 AM - Well, if once you are in Zurich, I still have two bottles ;).I actually saw your note after seeing your CT on the vintage 2004 of Le Méal. I've seen a magnum of that wine for a relatively good price in a shop, but I guess there is a risk that the wine has passed its peak. What would you say?
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