3/25/24, 5:47 PM - Nice meeting you. Obviously, you've got to come back!
3/5/24, 6:49 PM - Thanks for all your comments. I don't think there were any stewed fruits in the body of the wine, so it will be interesting to hear what you think. Also, I did not find it tasting like a Madera wine. It was not raisin like, but actually very clean and not clawing. It is a very good time to open one. I don't think it will get better. I would pnp next time to enjoy it from the onset. It will hold up for 4 to 5 hours. I give it a 95 and that is a great score for a bottle 34 years old.
3/6/24, 8:58 AM - I have a 2007 and 2015 Beaucastel to share with Markpt1. These wines usually get better with age. I would suggest that consider opening the 95. I would wait on the 2015.
2/2/24, 5:27 PM - After a couple of hours the wine got cherry tart. I think it is another year or two, but if you're going to have it now then give it a good decant. Also, have it with food
2/2/24, 4:50 PM - How long did you decantWhat score do you giveDo you suggest opening now or waiting - time?Any specific character? Nose, body, finish?ThanksJim
2/1/24, 4:54 AM - Thanks for the heads up. Somehow, the system changed my 97 score to “flawed”. The wine is definitely not flawed and I have now corrected it. In fact, it was the wine of the night in the tasting. I believe I may prefer this over Materium because it does not seem as extracted.
2/1/24, 5:06 AM - Rickincabs, looks like your Abreu wines are similar to my cellar. Try one of these and let me know if you think it is better.
2/1/24, 4:59 AM - Thanks Mark. I give it a 97. I need to compare this to Materium. I believe it may like it better. It did not seem as extracted as Materium. Of course, Materium is great too. How would you compare it to Materium and do you believe it is better the Beckstoffer wines?
12/20/23, 5:20 PM - Just a hint..
12/20/23, 4:58 PM - Day 2: The wine was more sexy and silky than on day one. The fruit held up and the finish was molasses and caramel. Truly, a wonderful 2003 that exhibited ripe, but not overdone fruit. The finish was just terrific and I would rate this wine a 97 at this time. I think that if it was up against the Maya we had last night that I would certainly call this wine the WOTN. Thanks for sharing it with me and I owe you a 2003 Cos for comparison. I'm sorry you didn't get to try it on day two. Seems like HMC will just have to put up with us when we bring out the Cos again. He's probably had it four or five times by now and I hope he will discern that it is an old Bordeaux.
12/20/23, 5:05 PM - Barnyard blew off. Seems more sweet fruit now and silky palette.
12/20/23, 5:07 PM - Maybe a little barnyard taking another sip, but much less than last night. Just a hint to tell you it's Bordeaux.
12/20/23, 5:19 PM - Great that the Maya stayed up there. That's California for you
12/20/23, 3:39 PM - Day 2: thanks for letting me finish the bottle. Today, one day after the tasting, the wine has a bitter palete, but what really bothers me is that it turned into perfume. It seems as though someone dumped some Chanel number 5 in the glass. I could not believe it, so I washed the glass and tried it again. No change. The nose is fine, but the finish is Chanel.
12/20/23, 4:23 AM - I agree. I had it at a 98 for about 10 minutes, but it settled in ata 95-96. It needed a 3 and 1/2 decant. Anyone who pnp this wine will be disappointed. It was closed from the beginning.
5/9/23, 4:34 AM - Hard to believe you pnp’d a Maybach. That takes balls, but I assume you had several hours to slide into it without worrying if it needed a six hour decant. Actually , sometimes it is best to see how a wine changes over time. I have stopped buying many similar crafted wines - kept Maybach, dropped Myriad, don’t buy Carter, etc. After a while the fruit bombs all blend together and the year by year differences you find comparing years in the style of producers with more nuance seem to be favored. It is a pleasure to hit it right and experience a great wine from an average year and celebrate the success of the producer.
10/19/23, 6:57 AM - California must be worried about the wine being tainted with arsenic or some other poison where the restaurant and state could be held responsible for serving a bottle that was manipulated to kill the person you're eating with. They have to open the bottle so they reduce any loose ends between the glass and the vineyard. Haha.
7/18/23, 3:54 PM - Sounds great. Thank you for turning me on to a couple of bottles. Drops of God is fantastic. The relationship are as powerful as the wine. Wouldn't you like to live in France and work in that vineyard?
10/2/22, 4:46 PM - I am down to one too. Lite, when do you think you will open your last bottle? I am going to share mine with Markpt1 and HMC.
7/11/23, 1:28 PM - I would only purchase one bottle for your collection and drink with friends at a special time. The wine will not go down in price. The GRW price is only relevant if you are planning on selling. IMO the Bard is the way to go with Realm and the extra points with Absurd are not worth the price of the wine over the price of Bard. It is not like these Napa wines are so different between them that they should command hundreds of dollars extra. However, for education purposes then a bottle is worth it. There are so many great wines out there and you don't have to spend $675 to be satisfied. Maybe a 2016 MacDonald might be a better buy at $850? I have many wines that have appreciated over the years, but I do not see where Absurd will every reach the heights of a wine initially purchased on release like 2015 Margaux or 2000 Mouton. So, where could Absurd go in price in the future? Maybe to $1,000 a bottle from the vineyard release in 2030, for example, but so what. It will always be knocking on the door price of Harlan and Hundred Acre. IMO the 2030 Absurd becomes just another year and a wine that will sit on the shelf a little longer than the 2021. Now, if Realm did not have Bard and 10 other wines then Absurd is something special as it gives you an indication of the winemaker's talent. Harlan does not have 10 different wines to chose from so his Estate wine is special. Absurd was made perhaps to price against Harlan Estate with a lower premium. But, I am not sure it is really that special when Realm makes so many other wines. I have one bottle of the 2016 to share with friends. I am not planning on buying more.
7/9/23, 6:11 PM - Let's check it out in 20 years!
7/9/23, 6:09 PM - You know I use the Coravin. Is the RePour economical at $2.50 a stopper. I wonder how it compares to the Coravin canister with either of their systems. Which one gives more value? I believe the RePour is good to keep a bottle a maximum of two months? The Coravin goes longer, especially the needle version where the cork stays in the bittle. What happens with the RePour after two months if all the oxegon is theoretically gone?
7/4/23, 2:17 PM - Wish I was invited too. Happy to hear you enjoyed the wine. Thanks for the great write up.
6/18/23, 6:08 PM - We're drinking this tonight. Didn't know you were opening it. Dan and I are having a good time. Right now. It's a 94 to 95. Been open for 2 hours. Sorry you guys aren't here.
6/10/23, 6:20 PM - We don't taste enough Pinot. Dan opened it up tonight in Denver. Very smooth and delicious. The palate has a velvet consistency. The wine is medium to full bodied. Candy cherry with a tart finish. Some spice in the middle and back end. Dan pnp'd the wine so I'll be interested to taste it in a few hours after it warmed up. I mentioned that we should save some for tomorrow and see if it mellows out.
6/10/23, 7:25 PM - About 2 hours out. Wine needs a decant. Spice mellowed out and now left with tart cherry middle and finish. Score is 93.
6/8/23, 5:43 AM - Yes, in situations like yours a longer decant is better and serving at room temperature preferable. Taste the wine when you open it and if it is ready to go, but you are hours before serving then don’t decant - slow ox. Also, 2005 needs a longer decant than other years. Your trying to get to the secondary characteristics with older wines. A 1990 might do well with the hour, but 2005 need two to four. A 2000 is more like the 2005 year.
5/24/23, 3:19 AM - Sounds like the perfect time to open Dr. Crane. You wouldn’t think twice if it was a 2016. So, what is 3 years worth compared to 40 years of friendship? Priceless!I find Bevan’s labels too similar. They need a more distinctive design to differentiate their wines.
5/9/23, 2:04 PM - I hear 18's can be hit or miss.
5/9/23, 4:21 AM - So much different than Realm. Maybach is flamboyant and Made to challenge your palate at full throttle. Realm is made to age and showcase the vineyard. Both styles are excellent examples of what Napa can offer. I have a couple left and we’ll have to see how one compares in 6 months.
5/7/23, 2:19 PM - Bottle variation? I have has some good and some not so good 2003’s. You don’t know what you have until it is open. This is now not a matter of aging, but whether or not if you have a good bottle.
5/7/23, 2:16 PM - I’ll defer to your immeasurable knowledge and excellentpalate. The older I get the less patience I have. I expect now to buy California and get a taste while it can be opened young. In that case i am willing to wait until it reopens again knowing that it will not take 20 years (2005 French Bordeaux or some 2000’s). I am willing to buy French when I do not have expectations of an early open, but have been recently pleasantly surprised. When I buy California and it is closed then I am disappointed. What is this wine world coming to?
4/11/23, 4:42 PM - 18 hour slow ox. How did you arrive at that decision?
4/11/23, 7:56 PM - Got it. I thought it had potential too. Good QPR. Wonder how Vice Versa’s new Spinning Plates will compete. Same QPR.
4/8/23, 12:30 PM - How long did it take to open? Did you decant or slow ox or both?
4/8/23, 7:46 PM - Thanks. I have full bottles and have been patiently waiting to open one. The wine is a late bloomer and has been closed. Half bottles are more open than full bottles, so it seems like there is movement, but I think I will continue to wait.
3/29/23, 7:33 PM - Thanks for the comment. Jason and Jenna did not prefer the B Cellars style and thought the Fait Main was not quite as intense, but similar. Nice to know Venge and Jansen will be even more old school. The vineyard is great so the makers style does matter.
3/24/23, 7:53 PM - Congratulations. All 17’s gone. I’ll serve my last one at the next tasting.
2/16/23, 5:14 AM - I am disappointed with the fruit. Thought it would be sweeter. Don’t believe this will change much for the better from here. What do you think?
2/1/23, 2:22 AM - I think 2025 makes sense. I have the bottle sealed with the Coravin so sometime this spring I will take out a glass again. I let you know if I agree with 2025 after the second tasting.
1/27/23, 7:38 PM - Thanks for the update. Very interesting that it changed. Maybe theFrench have it figured out. They produce a wine that drinks young like a Cali, but not a fruit bomb. And, they make it so it will gracefully age like a bordeaux. So, drink young and then age and drink again. Better than the Cali fruit bombs that are designed to only drink in a few years. We do strive to find Cali wines that drink young and can age. Hundred Acre, Harlan, Abreu, Arrowood are four in that category. Mike Smith designs are just instant gratification wines.
1/29/23, 12:31 PM - Thanks for sticking it out for day 3. Wow, would not have expected the wine to be back in the game. Makes one think that there is terrific aging possibilities with this wine. I'm happy to say that I have more than enough to open over the years.
1/16/23, 7:38 PM - Did you slow ox or decant? How long? When did it fully open up? Did it change throughout the tasting? Thanks. How long was the wine tasting from start to finish? Did you compare it to anything else? Thanks for the great note.
1/16/23, 7:46 PM - Seems like you have had many 2019 wines. The Laffite and Las Cases also received 97. Some were in the 80s like Pape Clement. Seems like the 2019s are all over the place. I’m impressed that this wine scored so well. I know they have been working on the vineyard and maybe figured it out.
1/11/23, 3:23 PM - Sad it was not presented first. Best to try these older wines before the fruit forward younger wines.
1/11/23, 3:22 PM - 89's are always my favorite. Bnit surprised it could be WOTN.
1/11/23, 3:20 PM - Lynch Bages is usually the last to open up in a good to great vintage.
12/30/22, 6:27 PM - Do you think you might have had a bad bottle or did not give it a long enough decant? Other scores and comments are quite different.
12/31/22, 8:44 AM - I'll let you know how my group finds the wine, but I am definitely going to give it a good decant. I may let it rest for 4 hours and then try. I find these wines need the time and sometimes, like MacDonald, they are best after 12 hours.
12/1/22, 7:51 AM - Two hours in it turned to prune, lost it's color, and was clearly over the hill at a 90 in my opinion. The moral of the story is older Material wines will hold up on pnp for a couple of hours and then it is over. I would not decant, but slow ox is fine for 30 minutes.
12/1/22, 10:29 AM - I defer to you and Dan. Thanks for setting me straight. My recollection is different, but I may have run out of the wine when I poured Jim's wine into the Materium glass.
11/15/22, 5:14 AM - I brought the bottle and you could pnp to taste the changes from the beginning. It was open from the start and put on weight during the evening. I preferred it an hour out because it was slightly bigger as it took in air, but it was terrific at pnp too. It is a sophisticated wine that beckons you to relax and enjoy the moment. The concern with older wines is if you loose the fruit over time. This wine was strong 4 hours out and showed no sign of fading so go ahead and pnp.
11/6/22, 7:36 AM - I certainly think it has its act together. We can question ourselves on the rating, but it was very enjoyable. You could also Coravin a glass just to make sure it resolved to your liking.
11/6/22, 7:17 PM - I don’t have enough experience with Myriad. I would defer this question to Markpt1. My statement was to juxtapose Mryriad with Maybach. Maybach IMO has more designer characteristics and this bottle of Myriad was a more traditional rendering of Napa wine.
10/2/22, 4:41 PM - I have a couple of the 2018 left so we'll try again. Maybe a decant like MacDonald is needed.
7/12/22, 8:02 PM - I thought after 24 hours it needed more time in the decanter. It was certainly great two days later. I believe the lesson to learn for me is that it is not a bottle to decide to open a few hours before dinner. My opinion is that there was so much fruit in the wine, just great fruit and not overbearing, that I needed the tannins to mellow out and let the fruit sing. I prefer the wines to be balanced from start to finish without too much tannin on the back end. Also, I thought after a couple of hours that this wine was closed up front. I am very impressed with this vineyard. I am sure I will try it again later this year and see if I had it right. However, if was a close WOTN with the 2012 Schrader.
7/12/22, 7:56 PM - I guess I could call Abreu and see what they might say. Did not think of it. I just thought it was the Cappella wine which might have been made to drink earlier. I have a 2008 Thorevilos and Howell Mountain to try. I also have a 2007 Howell Mountain left. It will be interesting to see if these older wines are similar.As far as the cellar is concerns - yes, lol. I meant 55 degrees. Maybe I was thinking of the weather in Florida as the time of posting.
6/12/22, 3:40 PM - I do this with the coravin. Not the one with the needle for long term storage, but the appliance that allows me to keep the wine a couple of weeks. I find it slow ox's with their stopper system. Had a bottle of 2009 Chateau Gloria over two weeks and the wine was better each day.
6/6/22, 9:01 PM - Did you decant? How long? Could it have been an off bottle?
5/31/22, 5:35 PM - I have found my bottles closed. Are you saying that the wine has evolved? Did you try it in the past few years and how would you compare it over time?
5/24/22, 8:29 PM - Sorry to hear you have COVID. Hope you feel better soon.
5/15/22, 7:53 PM - Thanks for the note and hope your trip was great. Do you think TRB should always be at the highest level possible? Did Outpost pick at a different time than Arkenstone? Is it the barrel? Just some thoughts.
5/15/22, 8:03 PM - I believe Outpost is along the trail and at a lower elevation than Arkenstone which is higher up on the mountain. Perhaps Outpost is like some of the 2016’s that are in a funky stage?
5/16/22, 4:27 AM - Got it. ThankHappy travels.
5/16/22, 12:19 PM - I'll let you know.....it might work out as Nancy and I did a lot of house prep over the weekend.
5/9/22, 8:31 PM - Nice note.
5/1/22, 8:54 PM - I think many of the Cos bottles are closed. I had a bottle that was drinking nicely, but I suspect most need time. Sorry to hear your experience was uneventful. Maybe the release is uneven.
5/2/22, 9:22 AM - Thanks for your perspective. I have 2000, 2003, 2009, 2010, and I believe I am waiting for the 2019's. It is a shame if they overextended in 2009 as it is a year that is so promising. I have 2009 Lynch Bages that drink burly, rustic, and lacking finesse. Maybe this is another one?
5/4/22, 4:22 PM - Thanks for the information. I will put a sticky on my bottles.
4/27/22, 8:37 PM - How long was your decant? What do you mean by versatility?
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