4/18/24, 6:12 AM - Why isn't this considered "GG"? I can amuse myself with the idea that the producer is undermining a contemporaneously very hype classification with this offer of superseding quality. Or is it nonconforming in some other way? (Shrug.)Answer found here, explained by Hilke Nagel at 14:15https://youtu.be/L4HS1Yf_n6Q?si=boi6k-QcCstpO_9-&t=854As I suspected, any given Grosse Lage can only produce one GG per vintage for a given VDP producer.
4/16/24, 5:06 AM - Hillsdale beef lengua green salad is dinner. I just smoked something called 'blueberry, ...' something?
4/14/24, 5:38 AM - ________GNOSIS^ I value the reports on this site that find something here much less appealing than what I did. Beyond hand-waving appeals to bottle variation, it's worth noting this wine exemplifies certain vengeful, environmental risks in its preservation, risks that might not allow it to survive even brief periods of handling stress. The natural question follows: why put up with a wine like that? My answer: the risks of preservation underwrite all taste. Taste and preservation mean nothing without fragility. (See "contained risk.")________^ In my country, a despised and valuable thing can be described as "that shÿt (don't grow on) trees." That's what I hear when you say "Chitry." I can't help it!^ Which is strange, because the appellation of Chitry is a low-tariff opportunity for the discovery of remarkable quality. It practically DOES grow on trees. Selection is crucial here. ^ I vaguely remember drinking 2018 De Moor Chitry back in 2020. It was still fermenting; I liked it; another guy wanted to stamp it out of existence. We remain friends, afaik, lol.
4/8/24, 2:04 PM - thanks for asking, @junglejuiceit's an abbreviated note to myself confessing a degree of uncertainty about the inner workings of the wine. If—very hypothetically, I must stress—it were sources of fruit mixed in cynical calculation to appeal to immediate, summary attention of critics, who are encumbered with all kinds of ideas of ideal Cornas (a class I am carefully trying to separate from), and if the producer of the wine is very clever and accomplished, the shortcoming may tell only as it ages and drinks. On this occasion (and in contrast with my earlier note), I felt ambivalent. I'm always interested in the various marks of engineering in wine. Whether the results are "good" or not is often told only over time. Seamless transitions of flavor correlate with natural gifts of continuity, grace, and elegance. On the other hand, there are wines that are bluntly stitched together to satisfy some analytical protocol. (Acidification in new world Rhone varieties used to be the best place to find examples of this—not sure about nowadays.)
4/6/24, 2:08 PM - *It's common—suddenly, these days—to shame usage of the term "grapey" in wine commentary, which is a shame. It's the most concise form that means 'the taste of grapes, before they age into wine.'
4/4/24, 8:50 AM - a 2-hour postprandial culminated in thoughts of arrival, and blessing— attribution to be shared widely, with Bayley Hazen blue cheese, organic walnuts from Meijer, tonic herb smoke, 1970s moms and dads, Mr. Brewer, and more
3/28/24, 4:44 PM - this is an honor @JohnMcIlwainyou could be responsible now for renewing my interest in Beat lit
3/28/24, 6:29 AM - according to my friend VLM in a comment he posted under my first note:"This stuff is magic. Grab as many bottles as you can, it's the last vintage Kenny made."
3/25/24, 4:05 PM - Ich lerne Deutsch. Meinten Sie "Fassprobe"?
3/17/24, 5:59 PM - I appreciate your intermittent schedule of wine note publishing. And I appreciate your notes! 1989 Loire Chenin deserves its own fanclub of course.
3/14/24, 7:57 PM - this is a great note—arguably, the best one I've seen on this site (of many thousands)—please don't embarrass me and say you're AI! lol
3/12/24, 5:59 PM - Is 1998 and 2003 the same wine?
3/12/24, 7:01 PM - i can sympathize
3/12/24, 8:55 AM - I don't remember how, but somewhere I became convinced: it would be a shame to miss drinking this in its first year or two, and though it will preserve well (10-20 yrs) may not transform in an appreciative way.
3/12/24, 6:41 AM - Thanks! I look forward to your note.
3/8/24, 5:54 PM - finishing the bottle, hours later, unexpectedly familiar chimes of dark chocolate, like Macharnudo or Arbois. Bitter, breathy, mint harmonics.*salt caper. Why specify "salt" caper? Because there is no vinegar in it.
3/6/24, 6:13 PM - How does Thierry Puzelat contain so discretely such pertinent influence from reduction and volatile acidity? They exist only to drive flavor and preservation, and not to be noticed directly.
3/1/24, 6:22 AM - By 8:30, I'm thinking: 1) this is heavily scented, and 2) as I've been dabbling in remotely sourced wines of trophy age in recent years, this is the best buy so far.
2/27/24, 1:25 PM - Alcohol/gravity > acid + arguably severe extraction (temperature, turbulence.)
2/24/24, 8:01 PM - thank you
2/24/24, 5:32 PM - end of the bottle 🫢
2/24/24, 4:26 PM - you should indeed buy more
2/24/24, 1:43 PM - Nice report, bruv. Now I'm inspired to seek this 2021 vintage. Do you have any thoughts to share on pairing a wine like this with well-seasoned fish preparations?
2/24/24, 2:32 PM - excellent—thank you
2/21/24, 3:04 PM - Epilogue, 2024—After encountering various varietal Silvaner/Sylvaner wines over decades, this was my first lightbulb experience with the grape. Later, I would find that a *Cru* Vetter Silvaner could at least match this. All of this to answer the persistent question: "why does ___ exist?" Silvaner in this case.
9/10/23, 2:23 PM - I imagine there is some highly sympathetic person or persons responsible for producing this wine.
2/15/24, 2:21 PM - Thanks.It tasted bullied, not fouled.I ruled out biological spoilage (brett, mouse, VA, etc.) based on 1) the smell/taste, and 2) the known winemaking standards.What about temperature or light stress? Maybe. But I bought it from cellar-temperature storage by a retailer I know. I could sense nothing maderized, tertiary, or cooked. The color was healthy. If anything, it tasted too well preserved.As far as "techno yeast fruit," it is an impressionistic description. I use it to suggest a wine that might be produced by selected, nutrified yeast strains, (with additions of enzymes, sugars, etc.) and potentially temperature controlled in a calibrated, clean finish to alcoholic fermentation. Sometimes vigilance against blemish is damning to pleasure.Thanks for the comment, and best wishes to you.https://winemakermag.com/resource/yeast-strains-charthttps://www.reversewinesnob.com/native-yeast-versus-cultured-yeast-in-winemakinghttps://www.wine-searcher.com/m/2021/03/wine-philosophy-beauty-and-the-yeast
2/11/24, 7:32 AM - ℙ—This item, 2017 Domaine Magdalena, is striking, and prompts immediate review of the theoretical literature—or at least its arguments that exist in my head. If autonomic expectation forms the basis of all taste (it does), this wine presents a fairly unique challenge. Others have noted, across several vintages here on CT, that it does not resemble normative Red Mountain wine, or indeed even varietal Cabernet Sauvignon from established tradition anywhere. I agree! All right, so we're saying it lacks typicité; can we dismiss it? No. Not only would that be a mistake, it would misdirect, in a way opposite to the truth/beauty/divinity of the matter.ℙ—'Typical' must always figure in expectations. What is typical Cabernet Sauvignon? I remember long ago following breadcrumb trails into various less glamorous corners of the Médoc—St. Estephe tight as nails, sung to by sea air; balsamic Moulis and Listrac barely known but for the proximate end of a rail spur and a good mule. Those wines answered the revealing question: what is Cabernet Sauvignon *when it is isolated from media ambition?* The answer as I found it: it is ink-colored, tannic, and tastes like pencils and bay leaves, or at least it does for the first twenty years in its bottle. (What it tastes like after that is another discussion.)ℙ—Take all of the austere and noble flavors known in Cabernet Sauvignon (from Insignia to Mouton.) Now imagine those flavors after exhaustive removal of all superfluous jam, fat, sugar, and interventions to "manage" tannin. Abandon all smooth interface in order to reveal source flavor.ℙ—summarily, I can at least comprehend reports of this wine as stingy and odd. But if that's all it is, why does it taste so young and firmly rooted in stone?
2/13/24, 1:40 PM - haha—I suppose it is. But unlike Ralfy, I am not ready to invite anyone to expect this sort of thing. Only as warranted.
2/10/24, 4:07 PM - how do you rank "passive and romantic"?to me that sounds like a recommendation.cheers, to the great Dirk! I would love to raid stocks from 1980-2005.
2/10/24, 8:45 AM - full of surprises for those who see
2/2/24, 11:37 AM - great note; I'll want to refer to this the next time I encounter an old bottle with a vanishing window.I wonder, with the benefit of hindsight, whether the drinkability of each pour could have been extended with a narrower glass shape,
1/27/24, 8:00 AM - can you elaborate on "TBN"? Is it short for tert-Butyl nitrite?
1/27/24, 11:30 AM - aha. thanks!
1/24/24, 9:02 AM - I appreciate how you handled the topic of sugar here. And if the wine subculture didn't already have enough jargon (!), could I float here the notion of "structural sugar." Further analogy might be the bass instruments in an orchestra, rather than the higher tone, sweet melody parts. Let's assemble more literature on this topic.
1/23/24, 9:51 PM - thanks again, dude
1/20/24, 3:56 PM - ideal service temperature is 50-60° F; the upper bound elicits a nice golden and saline sensation.
1/17/24, 8:43 AM - Yours is the review of the oldest bottle of Nusserhof Kretzer that I find on Cellar Tracker. As I consider how long to keep my lone bottle of 2020, I was wondering if there is a story behind your bottle of 2015 and what may have caused it to linger until 2023.
1/17/24, 8:47 AM - Thanks! I admire that kind of wine seller.
1/17/24, 7:13 AM - As I see it, Manseng acids love to be pointed directly at the sun. It’s a tussle. The sun scorches the sugars, while the acid binds with herbs and aromatic oils to refresh the organism. It’s the Big Dance for real.
1/13/24, 2:14 PM - does your situation allow you to leave a portion of one of these reductive wines for the next day? It might even fit your nom de plume
1/6/24, 4:18 PM - 100 points? I can defend that more easily than 90 points. Eye on flexibility here.
1/6/24, 4:14 PM - The chat asks, "what score would you rate this retroactively?"95
1/1/24, 12:07 PM - thanks, PINOTPLAYER!
12/31/23, 6:57 PM - nice
12/30/23, 6:15 PM - sensational pairing with salmon luncheon salad on a bed of cheddar and baby greens—not an easy task in my experience
12/30/23, 6:14 PM - sensational pairing with the most stinky remains of a Rush Creek Reserveit was less apt with salmon luncheon salad on a bed of cheddar and baby greens—too overwhelming
12/29/23, 4:18 PM - Blackeyed peas, McElroy Farms hocks, large onion, copious amounts of celery, garlic and black pepper—simmered, by now, for a total of 12 hours+. Collards stewed in the same broth, chopped with pan-roasted sweet potato, on the side.
12/28/23, 2:26 PM - fifty thou' year, buy a lotta ... sancerre (?)hahaI also appreciate the accurate vogon poetry reference
12/27/23, 7:27 PM - Yeah, it's not a label to linger over. I'll give it credit for fitting the wine in the bottle. No deception.
12/26/23, 3:48 PM - Are there dates on the back label? Please to share.
12/26/23, 4:23 PM - thanks!
12/26/23, 3:22 PM - I was like, "MC" ... mercaptans? And then I thought this note might be for the Sancerre rouge, with MC an abbreviation of macération carbonique. Curiosity made me wonder.
12/24/23, 2:22 PM - I dearly wish to be convinced this is either 2019, or 2017. And if it's the former, some equitable correction of the "unreliability" claim will follow. None of this really matters though, given the deliciousness of the wine, and my great fortune in finding it available in the first place.
12/19/23, 1:54 PM - what a preposterous note! alas, cringe is one price to be paid for the sake of preserving the record.
12/16/23, 6:35 AM - There were two or three vintages of Foillard's Morgon Côte du Py between 2005 and 2012 that were too tannic and extracted for me. I couldn't help but compare them with my favorites from 1997-2001. 2014 is better balanced, if still thicker than 1999, and much thicker than the legendary 2001. Until I learn more, let me speculate reasons for this: 1) the natural workings of vines as they age, and 2) the curious feedback loops of celebriity status.
12/13/23, 5:08 PM - optimal service temperature seems to have migrated into the "JB Becker zone" for me, so instead of 45-50° F, I think this tastes best at 55° F. Of course, that can easily be a matter of seasonality. >60° it is a different and completely legitimate beast.
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