2009 Charles Joguet Chinon Les Varennes du Grand Clos

Cabernet Franc

  • France
  • Loire Valley
  • Touraine
  • Chinon
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Community Tasting Notes 18

  • Julian Marshall wrote: 88 points

    March 31, 2019 - The colour was very dark and intense. The nose, like the taste, was very closed at first, taking a good two hours in the decanter to open up, before revealing aromas of forest fruits, yeast and eucalyptus, with spices and charcoal. The attack is powerful, silky and ripe, but the actual flavours are quite muted at first; the middle section is full-bodiedn but a little chalky, with a strong sense of bell pepper, before a rich seam of fruit, where at last the flavours become more distinct: dark cherry, blackberry and finally some blackcurrant. The finish is odd - very disjointed: at the back of the palate, a broad, sweeping wave of indistinct fruit with chalky greenness, which slips down the throat, whilst at the front a strong taste of sweet blackberry which tingles the tongue, remaining long after the wine has gone. Weird.

    Completely different to the other Chinons I've tasted recently, this was bigger and broader in scope. The body and silkiness are very impressive - this is clearly high-class wine, but which succeeds in tasting both ripe and unripe. The ripe fruit tastes a little extracted and the green cloak is almost caricatural - perfect for convincing doubting newcomers that the rumours were correct and that Chinons are not for them.

    Tasting it, I was reminded of the comment by Erwan Faiveley, quoted in Stephen Tanzer's excellent article last week - “the only Burgundy wine that a winemaker in Bordeaux can understand.” This is a Chinon that Bordeaux lovers would understand, but which not all would like. It has the power and body of Bordeaux, unlike the Clos Guillot I tried last week, but without the slightly sweet flavours of modern Bordeaux. There's something Pauillacais about it, but somehow unfulfilled. It reminded me of the Duhart 2008 I tasted last year - good, but with a nagging greenness. Much like Sociando-Mallet can taste, so if you like that, this is for you.

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  • jlhkiss wrote: 88 points

    December 15, 2017 - Still completely shut down. No change from 3.5 years ago. Technical score: 89. Enjoyment score: 87.

  • Saint Stephen wrote: 89 points

    July 30, 2017 - Casket bearing.

  • ccn wrote: 89 points

    December 22, 2016 - Really needs another 5 years - good structure but relatively closed.

  • indiscriminate palate wrote: 88 points

    April 30, 2015 - Very brief notes from TTTG (blind) (Vernon, CT): Very ripe fruit with some herbal notes. Somewhat hot. Seems much denser and more viscous than its medium weight. Good acidity. Hold. Please hold.

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  • By John Gilman
    Jan/Feb 2012, Issue #37, The Annual Loire Valley Report: The 2010 Vintage and Other Recently Tasted Gems

    (Chinon “les Varennes du Grand Clos”- Domaine Charles Joguet) Subscribe to see review text.


  • By Chris Kissack
    January 2011 (link) 14.5? points

    (Charles Joguet Chinon Varennes du Grand Clos) There is no Brett in this wine (or in this bottle I should say), unlike the Cuvée Terroir. There are ultra-ripe, ultra-lush layers of fruit here, very rich with a forest fruit character, with a gritty-sugar, cherry, plum and damson style. Remarkably high-toned, perfumed, with notes of violet and something of a crystalline edge to the fruit despite the overt ripeness and sweetness. A polished style overall, a little savoury at the very start, with a lightly peppery edge to the fruit, with a massive amount of grip and acid coming through the core of the wine. Late harvesting and maybe even a rather energetic extraction here, giving this a massive, feature-laden palate. It seems a little top heavy, over-extracted and atypical, but it will be interesting to see which way it goes.

Wine Definition

  • Vintage 2009
  • Type Red
  • Producer Charles Joguet
  • Varietal Cabernet Franc
  • Designation n/a
  • Vineyard Les Varennes du Grand Clos
  • Country France
  • Region Loire Valley
  • SubRegion Touraine
  • Appellation Chinon
  • UPC Code 761503512659

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  • In Cellars 113 (69%)
  • Consumed 51 (31%)

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