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2016 Domaine Grand Veneur Châteauneuf-du-Pape Vieilles Vignes

Red Rhone Blend

  • France
  • Rhône
  • Southern Rhône
  • Châteauneuf-du-Pape
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Community Tasting Notes 4

  • Billud90 Likes this wine: 96 points

    April 13, 2019 - Pepper, cinnamon, and dark berry nose. Same mouth with exceptional balance, apple spice and very nice long finish. Very pleased and exceptional upside over years to come.

  • Huh wrote: 96 points

    January 1, 2019 - I hadn't had Chateauneuf-du-Pape in 5 years. I struggle with liking the predominant Grenache grape (50%) or the blended in Mourvedre(40%) and Syrah (10%). I struggle with Chateauneuf in general. I do like a good Syrah such as Chave or Guigal single vineyards. I love the strong raspberry/blackberry mixed with some iron, mineral or even pepper note.

    My last meaningful CDP's were the La Barroche Pure, forget vintage but very early and highly scored and elixir-like with almost syrupy flavors. It was very thick and rich. I also hold the Beaucastel '89 in high regard, so rich, earthy, animalistic.

    I set out to get myself a Christmas present that was a highly regarded '16 CDP but still reasonably priced. I wanted to taste a universally regarded CDP. At $79 (Last Bottle) and 100 points Jeb D and 97 Wine Advocate I figured this fit the bill.

    So yesterday (New Year's Eve) this came across as a bit too "saline" or "peppery" as previous posters noted. They seemed to like that aspect but it was a bit heavy for me. This wasn't an "elixir" wine or rich, creamy wine. It is concentrated and relatively full-bodied but it has a tannic finish accented by that saline peppery element. It is so structured that I cannot say it feels "full-bodied". So med-full...

    Today though this wine is making me reevaluate what time and air does for a wine. The peppery saline element has receded a bit and the tannins have taken over. It's a dark raspberry/blackberry wine with a tremendous future ahead of it. It has more in common with Syrah than the 10% suggests. It's blacker-fruited, structured and it's over 95 point score comes from it's "classic" expression of terroir. Minerals are here. Dark fruits, strong backbone.

    I cannot say this is "velvety". It has a tannic edge that grips on the finish. Maybe I am overbearing with the blackberry thing. But when I eat a good blackberry it is not sweet like a strawberry. It is badass and so is this!

    EDIT - Night three - exactly the same as night two but I'm paying attention to the aromatics. Bottle says 15% alcohol and this wears it well. It lifts the aromatics, you can smell it on the nose and the flavors are intense, concentrated, complex. It also seems to be traditional tasting but New World in it's fruit intensity. I can now say I will buy this again and age it for 10 years and try it again. I repeat that I still feel it is dark and almost Northern Rhone-ish.

    As a perspective I filled up a glass of the 2nd wine I opened on New Years Eve which is 2016 Chateau Senejac. It's a $20 Bordeaux. My 1st impression is it's less concentrated, more civil, pretty structured and a really good bargain!

    4 people found this helpful Comment
  • Wine Fool Likes this wine: 98 points

    October 13, 2018 - The color is black cherry with a moody dark center. The nose is beautifully, almost exotically perfumed with raspberry preserves, garrigue, smoke, animal musk and grandma’s spice cabinet. It is full bodied and velvet-textured with rich flavors of ripe Boysenberry and raspberry, chocolate, fennel, charcuterie and bitter coffee. The flavors are very broad, layered and sumptuous. In fact, they would be utterly hedonistic were they not also infused with an unmistakable mineral salinity. The salinity adds a savory note, refreshes the palate, and keeps everything balanced. And the big tannins provide remarkable grip, focus and structure. Deliciously flavored and robustly constituted, this wine is a marvel. 98+++ points.

    1 person found this helpful Comment
  • Jeff Leve wrote: 98 points

    September 8, 2018 - Ruby with ink in its hue, the wine is off the charts in the terms of concentration. Dense, mouth filling, long and intense, the wine coats every nook and cranny of your palate with layers of juicy, dark red fruits, spice, pepper and jam. The texture is akin to velvet. The fruit filled finish, with all its peppery goodness does not quit. The wine was made from blending 50% Grenache, 40% Mourvedre and 10% Syrah.

    2 people found this helpful Comments (2)

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Wine Definition

  • Vintage 2016
  • Type Red
  • Producer Domaine Grand Veneur
  • Varietal Red Rhone Blend
  • Designation Vieilles Vignes
  • Vineyard n/a
  • Country France
  • Region Rhône
  • SubRegion Southern Rhône
  • Appellation Châteauneuf-du-Pape

Community Holdings

  • Pending Delivery 94 (18%)
  • In Cellars 417 (78%)
  • Consumed 24 (4%)

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