2002 Penfolds Shiraz St. Henri

Community Tasting Note

GGLT Likes this wine:

94 Points

Thursday, July 6, 2023 - Lovely wine. Forget the suggested drinking window, this has years left. Decant well before drinking.

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Comment posted by mphatic:

7/7/2023 1:46:00 AM - I’m convinced that many CT users aren’t aware that (1) they can update their drinking window dates, and (2) that their personal changes affect the “group average” dates displayed to others.

FWIW, my window end date is 2035.
Comment posted by Cremuel:

7/24/2023 7:45:00 PM - Thanks for this information. I have a number of bottles which appear to be past their drinking window if you follow CT dates, but when tasted are clearly well within a drinking window. Accept that different people may have different expectations for their wine, and some might feel that once the fruit has faded the wine is not their style so is past its best.
Comment posted by mphatic:

8/3/2023 5:00:00 AM - Re-reading my original comment, I realise that it may have come across as condescending. That certainly wasn’t my intent. I have read a few tasting notes here recently that have been critical of the default drinking windows, as if they were making false representation. Like you’ve said Cremuel, everyone has a different view on ideal drinking windows, so the default drinking window is just a compilation of data points. Since I tend to enjoy wine with some age, and have a cool and stable cellar, I find myself pushing out my end dates (and affecting the group average) more often than not.
Comment posted by GGLT:

8/3/2023 2:50:00 PM - Mphatic I did not have any issue with your comment, it was very helpful. I also have installed a cool and stable in our last 2 houses owned and prefer reds with age.