Ripe black fruit and medium body. A bit lacking in complexity. A bit dissapointing. Definetly not a 99pts in my book. Not sure what Luca Maroni had in mind when awarding this wine such high points... Altough the price level also doesn’t make one expect a 99pts wine, there are still much more exciting wines to be had for this money.
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Reminded of a more tannic Negroamaro or a sweeter rounder aglianico. Nose was plentiful of sun, ripen red fruit, sour cherry, cassis, and intense secondary notes that weren't intrusive. Body was nicely balanced maintaining the nose hues but revealing more barique induced elements. It had vivid tannins & astringency which I like, leading to a high abv spicy apex. After taste was bitter sweet & endured. I think it could benefit from a 2-3 years ageing & some earthier notes, and maybe a bit less sweetness.
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A little too sweet for my taste (my wife liked it). Therefore the dark fruity notes come off more like marmalade. It also has an herbal touch to it. Combined with the sweetness, this strongly reminded me of a Niepoort Tawny a drank recently, especially when tasted at warmer temperature. A little colder it was better but missing length. Since it is a very young wine, I gave it lots of air, which helped. But this is made to sell off fast, so I don't think it will benefit much from cellering.
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Nativ, Suadens Rosso, Campania Rosso IGT, Campania, Italy, 2017 Hersteller: Società Agricola Nativ SRL Weingut: Azienda Agricola Nativ www.winenativ.it 13,5% alc. Lot 2017 L8 3 18 EAN 8000255390613 Restsüße: 14 g/Liter (!) Säuregehalt: 6,30 g/Liter 3 einheimischen Rebsorten: 33% Aglianico, 33% Sciascinoso en 33% Piedirosso. Van oude druivenstokken die groeien op de vulkanische bodem aan de voet van de Vesuvius. Appassimento method (dried on the vine). Ze worden pas in oktober geoogst – veel later dan normaal – zodat de druiven iets indrogen aan de stok en extra geconcentreerd worden. Met een speciale techniek zijn ze geoogst op het moment dat de maximale fruitaromaticiteit bereikten. De druiven zijn met de hand geplukt. Nativ is met 15 hectaren een kleine wijnproducent in Paternopoli, in de streek Irpinia in Campania. Wijnmaker Mario Ercolino wordt in Italië ook wel "Super Mario" genoemd. Hij hoort tot de beste wijnmakers van Italië. Het is een wijnmaker die de internationale wijnpers doet verbazen met zijn eigenzinnige werkwijze. Ercolino is ooit begonnen als hoofd wijnmaker bij het zeer bekende wijnhuis Feudi Di San Gregorio. In 2008 startte hij met wat vrienden het wijnhuis Nativ. An again ridiculous high 99/99 (is his maximium) score from Luca Maroni (LM) and according to the LM sticker on the bottle neck the rating is issued in 2019 (sic !). But I noticed before that high ratings by LM are given to wines in extremely heavy bottles and so is this bottle. 02-05-2018 It was not sold as an off dry or semi sweet wine to me and I did not look on the label (but it is NOT stated on the label too !) or elsewhere before I tasted it, and I found it an appassimento method like wine and yes, I found that out after finishing the bottle and while writing this TN. So, I found it far too sweet for a normal dry red wine, but for the rest, I did like it. Medium-plus body, also because of lots of sweet red fruits, sweet cherry liqueur like, but somewhat simple and short. A little bit of tannins and alcohol remain in the after taste. It tasted like more than 13.5%. Okay for € 15, but for € 22.50 a bit too expensive. 15-05-2018 Now a bit lesser sweet, more overall balance and more tannins. Very good for in sauces, sorry. 18-05-2018 (= bottle finished) Now at it's best. Conclusion: At first S=85, since no faults, later S=87. Better give this wine lots of air before drinking. And it will last, will most likely get (much ?) better, for a good while, let's say for 5 to 10 or even more years. I guess my rating will be higher in a few years from now, but never 99 ..... . S=87 R=8.5-7(15-23) 5/20/18 M=2018-2025/2030
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10/14/2021 - StefVl wrote: 92 Points
Full bodied, strong wine. Wood, cassis, spicy, dark fruit
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1/27/2020 - Jochems wrote: 88 Points
Ripe black fruit and medium body. A bit lacking in complexity.
A bit dissapointing. Definetly not a 99pts in my book. Not sure what Luca Maroni had in mind when awarding this wine such high points...
Altough the price level also doesn’t make one expect a 99pts wine, there are still much more exciting wines to be had for this money.
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11/24/2019 - Giorgos F. Likes this wine: 88 Points
Reminded of a more tannic Negroamaro or a sweeter rounder aglianico. Nose was plentiful of sun, ripen red fruit, sour cherry, cassis, and intense secondary notes that weren't intrusive. Body was nicely balanced maintaining the nose hues but revealing more barique induced elements. It had vivid tannins & astringency which I like, leading to a high abv spicy apex. After taste was bitter sweet & endured. I think it could benefit from a 2-3 years ageing & some earthier notes, and maybe a bit less sweetness.
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1/12/2019 - TJay Does not like this wine: 86 Points
A little too sweet for my taste (my wife liked it). Therefore the dark fruity notes come off more like marmalade. It also has an herbal touch to it. Combined with the sweetness, this strongly reminded me of a Niepoort Tawny a drank recently, especially when tasted at warmer temperature. A little colder it was better but missing length. Since it is a very young wine, I gave it lots of air, which helped. But this is made to sell off fast, so I don't think it will benefit much from cellering.
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5/20/2018 - Homer Holland Likes this wine: 87 Points
Nativ, Suadens Rosso, Campania Rosso IGT, Campania, Italy, 2017
Hersteller: Società Agricola Nativ SRL
Weingut: Azienda Agricola Nativ
www.winenativ.it
13,5% alc.
Lot 2017 L8 3 18
EAN 8000255390613
Restsüße: 14 g/Liter (!)
Säuregehalt: 6,30 g/Liter
3 einheimischen Rebsorten: 33% Aglianico, 33% Sciascinoso en 33% Piedirosso.
Van oude druivenstokken die groeien op de vulkanische bodem aan de voet van de Vesuvius.
Appassimento method (dried on the vine). Ze worden pas in oktober geoogst – veel later dan normaal – zodat de druiven iets indrogen aan de stok en extra geconcentreerd worden.
Met een speciale techniek zijn ze geoogst op het moment dat de maximale fruitaromaticiteit bereikten.
De druiven zijn met de hand geplukt.
Nativ is met 15 hectaren een kleine wijnproducent in Paternopoli, in de streek Irpinia in Campania.
Wijnmaker Mario Ercolino wordt in Italië ook wel "Super Mario" genoemd. Hij hoort tot de beste wijnmakers van Italië. Het is een wijnmaker die de internationale wijnpers doet verbazen met zijn eigenzinnige werkwijze. Ercolino is ooit begonnen als hoofd wijnmaker bij het zeer bekende wijnhuis Feudi Di San Gregorio. In 2008 startte hij met wat vrienden het wijnhuis Nativ.
An again ridiculous high 99/99 (is his maximium) score from Luca Maroni (LM) and according to the LM sticker on the bottle neck the rating is issued in 2019 (sic !). But I noticed before that high ratings by LM are given to wines in extremely heavy bottles and so is this bottle.
02-05-2018
It was not sold as an off dry or semi sweet wine to me and I did not look on the label (but it is NOT stated on the label too !) or elsewhere before I tasted it, and I found it an appassimento method like wine and yes, I found that out after finishing the bottle and while writing this TN.
So, I found it far too sweet for a normal dry red wine, but for the rest, I did like it. Medium-plus body, also because of lots of sweet red fruits, sweet cherry liqueur like, but somewhat simple and short. A little bit of tannins and alcohol remain in the after taste.
It tasted like more than 13.5%.
Okay for € 15, but for € 22.50 a bit too expensive.
15-05-2018
Now a bit lesser sweet, more overall balance and more tannins.
Very good for in sauces, sorry.
18-05-2018 (= bottle finished)
Now at it's best.
Conclusion:
At first S=85, since no faults, later S=87.
Better give this wine lots of air before drinking.
And it will last, will most likely get (much ?) better, for a good while, let's say for 5 to 10 or even more years.
I guess my rating will be higher in a few years from now, but never 99 ..... .
S=87 R=8.5-7(15-23) 5/20/18 M=2018-2025/2030
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