2008 Bodega Numanthia Toro Termes

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  2/13/2024 - MindMuse wrote:

  So, I don't always write notes about wines, but this one kind of was getting in my head and I thought I should do so on it because it was a bottle pretty much buried in long term storage for some reason, and I assumed well past it's window, but it turned out to be a bit of a conundrum. As it turns out maybe CT Forum pal forceberry had a similar circumstance about one year ago.
  I had several bottles of this vintage Termes, 7 of 8 of which were consumed over a decade ago. Big, juicy, flashy wine that was good but tannic and oak/fruit robust, that is now tamer and resolved, also good, but just different in its gestalt. Has a more tired oak waft to it, but still nice quality fruit with savory earthy under layers. Different, probably personally preferable now, though not honestly better per se. Still, surprising it wasn't disjointed or some type of mess, which is kind of what I was expecting when I opened it. Honestly, pretty good, and fully consumed after several hours. And still 90-91-ish.

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  2/27/2023 - forceberry wrote: 90 Points

  100% Tinta del Toro aka. Tempranillo, Aged for 16 months in second use barriques. 14,5% alcohol.
  
  Luminous, somewhat translucent black cherry color that is still surprisingly youthful for the age. The nose feels fragrant sweetish and slightly evolved with aromas of black cherries and perfumed floral nuances, some boysenberries, a little bit of dried figs, light blueberry tones, a lifted hint of ethery VA, a developed touch of meat stew and a whiff of mocha oak. The wine feels rich, juicy and quite robust on the palate with a full body and intense, ripe flavors of dark plummy fruits and licorice, some old leather tones, a little bit of woody oak spice, light meaty notes of game, a developed hint of raisiny fruit and an evolved touch of savory umami. The overall feel is tactile and chewy in texture, but also packing quite a bit of structure with its moderately high acidity and ample yet very ripe and moderately resolved tannins. The finish is juicy, dry and quite warm with some tannic grip and a moderately long aftertaste of wizened red plums and dried figs, some woody notes of oak, a little bit of licorice, light raisiny tones, a hint of earth and a sweeter touch of toasty oak spice.
  
  A rich, big and textural Toro that is a very big in its own right, but feels surprisingly well-proportionate and balanced in a tasting of Termes, Numanthia and Termanthia. Having tasted this wine almost exactly ten years ago, there are some obvious things that have changed over this time: the wine doesn't feel as big and in-your-face than 10 years ago, so the overall feel isn't as heavy and the acidity manages to cut through much better. The tannins have also resolved quite a bit: in its youth the wine was massively tannic and pretty grippy, whereas now the tannins are much less grippy and mainly contribute to the rich texture of the wine. Fruit-wise the wine has developed some tertiary complexity, but ultimately I'm not sure if the wine has turned into something more interesting; in its youth the wine was very rich and bold with very vibrant fruit, maybe showing even more depth and nuance, whereas now the flavors are lacking that intensity, and while showing more tertiary characteristics, I'm not sure if there is any additional complexity. It seems the wine has evolved, but not really improved. This is a different wine from what it was ten years ago, but not necessarily better. I wondered why the producer says this wine has aging potential for five years, but I guess now - in retrospect - it makes some sense.

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  1/8/2023 - mwneil Likes this wine: 93 Points

  Cork was dry and broke but the wine was fresh and delightful, dark color, good fruit, smooth tannins, low acid but balanced with some complexity, drank with paella with chicken, chorizo, shrimp and steamer clams, easy drinking, 14.5% abv, onto another vintage, a decent value, wine could have become grapey but it never did.

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  2/18/2022 - CheviotCellar wrote: flawed

  Unfortunately this was corked. Cork fell apart on way out and had a musty bandaid smell. Tried decanting overnight and TCA smell is still there, though interestingly not so much in the taste (tried a small sample). Still though, the wine is way off and poured down drain. This bottle was free, included with a large order.

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  1/2/2022 - norsktorsk wrote: 93 Points

  this is very nice and drinking well. still with lots of life

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