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| Community Tasting Notes (average 92.8 pts. and median of 93 pts. in 26 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by RGCM Gananda on 12/29/2023 & rated 93 points: Prior bottle was a bit over 10 months ago and this wine continues to drink quite well. White peach, white pineapple, mango, passion fruit and other, mixed white tropical notes on the nose as well as slate and spices. Especially as it warmed, really aromatic. Medium bodied with white peach and rounder white apple upfront. White pineapple and white peach through the middle as well as white mango and passion fruit. Mid-body has good density and with the acidity and citrus on the back, the wine comes across as balanced rather than overly rich. Acidity still shows a good amount of vibrancy which works quite well with the mid-body complexity. Has the fruit, overall structure and acidity to remain interesting for many years ahead. (383 views) | | | Tasted by RGCM Gananda on 2/16/2023 & rated 93 points: Prior bottle was almost 17 months ago and this wine remains in a great spot. White peach, white pineapple, other mixed white tropical notes as well as minerals and acidity on the nose. Medium bodied with the same combination of white peach and white apple upfront. This gains depth and broadens through the middle, adding white tropical notes (especially pineapple and mango) and starting to bring in some yellow peach towards the back. Balanced with what continues to be very good acidity as well as tart citrus, before finishing with slate/minerals. Drinking quite well at present, but with enough acidity to remain interesting for a number of years to come. I'll plan to open my next bottle in early 2024. (758 views) | | | Tasted by Vas19 on 10/10/2022 & rated 92 points: For me the sugar acid balance leans slightly too far towards sugar on this wine. There is good complexity, structure, and length, but it is lacking some cut to make it great. (1021 views) | | | Tasted by RGCM Gananda on 10/1/2021 & rated 93 points: Prior bottle was nearly a year ago and WOW is this wine showing well. Nose remains essentially the same with white peach, white pineapple, minerals and acidity, but feels like it's been dialed up a notch or four.... Perhaps it was a question of getting the serving temperature just right, but the nose was noticeably more intense than my prior bottle. Medium bodied, perhaps even a touch more, clearly showing more depth than my prior bottle. White peach (bright) along with white apple (more rounded) upfront, evolving to mixed tropical notes through the middle (white pineapple, mango) along with tart, but yellow peach. Mid-body shows more complexity than previously. Backside shows excellent acidity along with citrus qualities. As much fruit as the mid-body has, the acidity and tart notes balanced it (and then some) virtually effortlessly. Finish shows notably good length with lingering floral, citrus and mineral qualities. Strongly tempted to move this wine up in score, but I think that can wait until the acidity has integrated just a bit more and allowed the fruit to show more complexity and expression. This wine is clearly showing exceptionally well at present, but is clearly on the upswing. Fantastic QPR. If you can, I'd hold a bit longer because as outstandingly as this wine showed tonight, it's potential is even higher. I'll wait until at least Fall 2022 for my next bottle (if I buy a few more) or Q1/Q2 2023 if I don't. (1231 views) | | | Tasted by RGCM Gananda on 10/31/2020 & rated 93 points: White peach, white pineapple, spices and mineral notes on the nose. Just to the light side of medium bodied (8.5% ABV) with tart white peach upfront with an undercurrent of apple. Mid-body has richness, with lots of tropical qualities, but all neatly contained with acidity and tartness so the flavor come off well defined and clean. Tart notes and good acidity on the back provide structure. Has the acidity for long life and the fruit to remain interesting throughout. Should continue to improve for a number of additional years. Next bottle for me in Fall 2021. (1465 views) | | | Tasted by tadams66 on 3/13/2020 & rated 93 points: Really incredible. Will last forever. Sweet, complex, and a fantastic finish. (1699 views) | | | Tasted by jwolf99 on 2/22/2020 & rated 93 points: Though the slate and petrol are reminders of how young this is, it's still drinking so well. Upon pop and pour, the acidity and sweetness pretty much slap you in the face (both cheeks) but they balance one-another. Like a liquid version of lemon squares and key lime pie at early stages, so good. As it warmed and opened, the aromas and flavors reverted back to my original notes of apple, honey and caramel. So glad to have more of this on hand. (1463 views) | | | Tasted by Aris1a on 9/28/2017 & rated 93 points: Skurnik Wines & Flatiron Wines tasting of Selbach-Oster. Agree with comments from EWS3. Could not say it better! (2252 views) | | | Tasted by Seth Rosenberg on 9/28/2017 & rated 92 points: Flatiron Wines Seminar: Selbach-Oster w Johannes Selbach (Skurnik Wines, New York, NY): Tropical on the nose with lychee. Big and ripe. A bit heavy - burly. Better on palate - very good. Fresh great fruit and good liveliness some lime and citrus with some peach. Some bitter and burly at finish - golden and ripe. This is probably wound up with concentration like many of the best 15's. Nose - 4.5+/6, Palate - 5.5/6, Finish - 5+/6, Je ne Sais Quoi - 1-1.5+/2 = 16-16.5+/20 (with 16.5-17/20 potential.) (3675 views) | | | Tasted by mike l. on 6/22/2017 & rated 92 points: pitch perfect with spicy Szechuan. Would like to acquire more. (2365 views) | | | Tasted by thalver on 4/26/2017: good verve, with ample acidity to balance the sweetness that is unmistakably there with each sip, but never overpowering or cloying. I think this is a great mid-term candidate for that point when the sweetness has abated just a bit. (though it clearly last almost forever) (2150 views) | | | Tasted by ews3 on 2/17/2017 & rated 95 points: Rieslingfeier 2017; 2/17/2017-2/18/2017 (NYC): excellent. apricot, elderflower, yellow apples, wet slate. ridiculous acids in this put this into laser focus and great balance that extends into a long, long finish. remarkable freshness. (7599 views) | | | Tasted by jwolf99 on 1/28/2017 & rated 93 points: Notes consistent with last bottle (1449 views) | | | Tasted by jwolf99 on 1/6/2017 & rated 93 points: classic petrol and slate aromas upon uncorking; big flavors of apple pie and lemon drops; long, sweet finsh with notes of honey and caramel; acidity stood out but should come into balance over the many years this has ahead of it making it even better than it is now; looks as though 2015 is definitely living up to the hype (1343 views) | | | Tasted by Eric Guido on 6/24/2016 & rated 95 points: According to Johannes Selbach, this fruit was technically Auslese level in ripeness, and from the depth in the glass, you can certainly feel it. Here I found a deep and rich mineral-laden perfume, showing dried flowers, ripe apple, mango and hints of lemon curd. On the palate, I found silky, broad textures, which soothed the senses while a wave of acidity forced the mouth to water, releasing notes of spiced citrus and tropical fruits. The finish was long with notes of sweetened lemon and apple, then fading to become spicy and floral. (1873 views) | | | Tasted by indiscriminate palate on 6/21/2016: Selbach-Oster quick impressions: Similar in profile to (but a bit more power than) the (zero star) Schlossberg, but I prefer the Schlossberg to this one. (1431 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)Mosel Saar RuwerStarting in 2007 the German wine authorities have changed labeling laws to rename all of the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wines to just "Mosel." This puts this and other database driven sites in a difficult spot, as millions of old wine label reflect the former labeling. As described here, CellarTracker has elected to remain with the old labeling for a number of years to avoid confusion. At some point we will switch over to just "Mosel" but not for a few years at least.
Mosel WeinKulturland (Moselwein e.V.)
Detailed geographical information at weinlagen.info
#2018 Vintage Notes:
"Acid levels are relatively low throughout Riesling-growing Europe (acidification will once again be permitted in Germany – no surprise, as that’s been the case in eight of the last 10 vintages); but because malic acid was baked off or degraded by relentlessly balmy weather means, what acid remains is overwhelmingly of the efficacious tartaric sort. Extract levels are low, as one would anticipate from a growing season during which relatively little moisture was coursing through the vine’s roots and shoots. [...] Everyone is astonished how there could have been so much juice despite the drought." - David Schildknecht
"2018 is a homogenous vintage with a very high general level, below which it seldom falls [...] It leads with blossom. It is perhaps 80% delicious and 20% fascinating." - Terry Theise
#2017 Vintage Notes:
"not so friendly towards light wines" - Milkmansteve
#2016 Vintage Notes: "Overall, 2016 is a charmer of a vintage with much immediate ripe and fruity appeal, not unlike 2011 (in fresher) or 2007 (in lighter). However, 2016 is far from being homogeneous, in fact it is composed of a mosaic of vintages, a result of the freakish growing conditions. Hidden inside the vintage, there are true gems with the balance of 1997, one of the best vintages ever, 2002 or even 2008. The bulk of the harvest was brought in with refreshingly moderate sugar levels. Overall, the Saar and Ruwer produced slightly fresher wines than the Middle Mosel but there are great differences between Estates. The good harvest conditions allowed for some Auslese, little BA and even TBA wines, but some remarkably pure and fruity Eiswein.
In general, 2016 offers the opportunity to acquire Riesling with great immediate ripe appeal: The vintage is a true charmer. At the top, 2016 is one of the most exciting and elegantly balanced vintage since the 1990s and well-worth stocking up for cellaring! In particular, we urge our readers to literally plunge onto the finest Kabinett and Spätlese: These are some of the most exciting and classic we have ever tasted. 2016 looks also set to become a major vintage for dry Riesling, provided the aromatics are not overripe. Lovers of dessert wines will find much to love in 2016 as the Auslese are pure and the Eiswein are gorgeously fruity. They should however also keep an eye open for the remaining stunning noble-sweet wines from 2015 which are still available here and there." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 36, July 2017
#2014 Vintage Notes:
"The heterogeneity of the 2014 vintage carries over onto the aging process. The top wines start to close down, as one would expect from these wines which are a remake of those from the 1990s. The wines affected by gin, saffron and mushroom flavors are still comparatively open and offer a not unattractive Scheurebe styled fruit opulence. We would opt to drink up these lesser wines except for the odd bottle and bury the little treasures of the vintage deep into the cellar." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 30, March 2016
#2013 Vintage Notes:
"The fruity-styled 2013 wines have firmed up significantly since last year and start to show signs of closing down, making the underlying acidity seemingly sharp and out of balance. The better dry wines have come out of their early armor of smoke and tannin but the acidity may prove quite challenging. Quite frankly, except for some smaller bottlings, this is a vintage to lay down and wait." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2012 Vintage Notes:
"The 2012 wines have put on some flesh and go through a 'fattier' phase which is not unlike what the 2007 went through at the same period. However, the zestier acidity cuts through this 'weight' and makes the wines thoroughly enjoyable at this early stage. In particular the fruity Kabinett and Spatlese as well as the off-dry and dry wines offer much pleasure. We expect these wines to close down over the coming year or two. Enjoy while it lasts!" - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2011 Vintage Notes:
"A bit to our surprise, the 2011 wines have shut down and go through a quite difficult and muted phase now. Their low acidity combined with their maturity makes them feel rich, opulent and often bulky, and thus not really enjoyable. We expect that these will need at least a decade to integrate their sweetness and gain in harmony. The only exception is the dry wines, whose low acidity makes for great food companionship." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2010 Vintage Notes:
"After a mellower period in 2012, many 2010 wines have firmed up and developed a stronger smoky side. However, most continue to shine through their fruit opulence, structure and deliciously zesty but ripe acidity. This suits in particular the off-dry bottlings, which have more charm than the legally dry wines. Will these wines close down? Actually, the softening acidity makes us wonder now but it also provides further evidence that these wines will turn out harmonious after all." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2009 Vintage Notes:
"Most 2009 wines have closed down, which accentuates their round and soft side forward. Many can still be quite enjoyable but the times of primary fruit with its attractive aromatic expression and a generous acidic kick are now over. Except for the dry wines, we would definitely recommend keeping your hands off any bottle in your cellar and possibly buying more wines from this vintage on the market as these are true gems in the making." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015 |
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