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 Vintage2004 Label 1 of 174 
TypeRed
ProducerChâteau La Tour Carnet (web)
VarietyRed Bordeaux Blend
Designationn/a
Vineyardn/a
CountryFrance
RegionBordeaux
SubRegionMédoc
AppellationHaut-Médoc
UPC Code(s)3760117900224

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2014 and 2023 (based on 12 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See La Tour Carnet on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 88.8 pts. and median of 89 pts. in 71 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by Wine_in_HD on 1/17/2024 & rated 92 points: Great at 20 years old! (259 views)
 Tasted by Kubiskisk on 12/12/2021 & rated 90 points: Same score as previous bottles, but this is more mature and pleasant to drink. (1160 views)
 Tasted by "Rhône Rider" on 12/10/2021 & rated 90 points: 2004 Moreller, plommer, blåbær, tobakk, fiken. Tydelig cab med en rikelig posjon Merlot. Nydelig nese. Tørket frukt, moreller, mineraler, en del urter, svart stein. Flott kompleksitet. Lang, litt mye grønt trekker ned. 90 (1191 views)
 Tasted by FransS on 6/13/2019 & rated 91 points: Celebrating the 30 years relationship of Frans and Adriana, June 10th (Babylon, Alkmaar): A surprise with its charming and fruity bouquet, a whiff of leather, some vanilla, cream and ths impressions continue in the taste. This is a ripe and balanced wine, gaining more secundary notes (tea) with a couple of hours of aeration. (2496 views)
 Tasted by Oenecnist on 1/5/2019: Bought a 12b case from Binny's 10+ years ago; I think this is the first bottle we've tried. I have the email but not the receipt so I don't have the price but expect it was well under 25/b. Decanted with normal sediment. Dark purple color with initial impression of fragrant red fruit nose, good fruit and mouthfeel. This followed a '04 Ch Duhart-Milon Rothschild and was noticably lighter in both nose and body--certainly pleasant but a lighter, simpler wine. I should have reversed the order, but we had not planned on opening this bottle. As my note on the Duhart for the same date indicates, the sweet braised pork hindered a proper evaluation of this so I am withholding judgement until I can give this a fair opportunity to show itself. Stored horizontally in a cool, dark basement since purchase. My evaluation: I've stopped giving scores on a "100-point scale" as I've become less convinced that they can be meaningful to others. I use a 4-category scale (perhaps with +/-)--not including flawed--which runs outstanding/notable/drinkable/poor. I'm withholding a final evaluation of this bottle but expect it is below outstanding-, though perhaps not far below; we'll see. (2418 views)
 Tasted by "Rhône Rider" on 7/26/2016 & rated 91 points: Smakt blindt: Dyp rød. kirsebær, tobakk, parfymert, blyantspiss, noe grønt. Strukturert, konsentrert, frisk, brukbar lengde 91 (4157 views)
 Tasted by capacious on 2/26/2016 & rated 90 points: Decanted for about 8 hours, the tannins were still surprisingly in evidence compared to prior tastings. Little bricking, not a lot of evolution in this bottle. Prior experience would have led me to expect this would have been a bit more evolved, I conclude I need more experience (4784 views)
 Tasted by Wijnand Kuijt on 12/27/2015 & rated 89 points: Classic Haut Medoc, fresh with beautiful notes and still lots of tannines. Probably will last another 10 years. (4787 views)
 Tasted by KristianT on 11/20/2015 & rated 92 points: Last bottle. In a very good spot right now. Dark fruit, tobacco and cedar. Dark and intense. Balanced and elegant. Great classic left bank Bordeaux. (4056 views)
 Tasted by KristianT on 7/12/2015 & rated 91 points: Still in a very good spot. Opened up very nicely after about 20-30 minutes. Classic Bordeaux. Quite dark and dense for the vintage. (4169 views)
 Tasted by wihong on 6/20/2015 & rated 89 points: Color: Opaque purple with very slight bricking at the rim. Aroma: Mint, licorice, herbal, oak and damp earth. Taste: At entry, high acidity with plush tannin. Mid-Palate: Licorice, jammy, thyme, cherry, plum and tobacco. Finish: Herbal, oak, soft tannin, very fruity, jammy, banana peel, pepper and cola. Very ripe, jammy, slightly alcoholic and opulent. A typical new style Bordeaux with more years ahead. (2705 views)
 Tasted by capacious on 5/20/2015 & rated 91 points: My score as my wife would have scored differently. This followed a 2004 Togni which I preferred, but my wife preferred the bordeaux without knowing which was which. The Carnet is a beautiful wine, drinking well now, ready,many showing that this vintage was underestimated, and quite a value. I hope 2012 is a similar buying op (2481 views)
 Tasted by KristianT on 1/16/2015 & rated 92 points: Didn't manage to wait the two years I promised myself to wait when I had my last bottle in December 2013, but no regrets since this has changed dramatically. This is really starting to open up showing beautiful notes of cedar, liquorice and tobacco. Classic Médoc. Very good balance and delicate classical style. Really good now and should keep for some years yet. (2277 views)
 Tasted by Jeff Leve on 1/4/2015 & rated 88 points: Still oaky, with licorice, tobacco and black fruits. Round textured and easy to drink, this is probably not going to get much better with age. (2783 views)
 Tasted by Gian on 10/12/2014 & rated 88 points: Red garnet colour , blackberry , cassis , pencil , quite complex , on the palate show the maturity , have entered the drinking window , savoury and with a good finish. (2129 views)
 Tasted by ThMeyer on 8/2/2014 & rated 91 points: Great mature Bordeaux. Still considerable acidity, with secondary notes starting to come through. Lots of ripe red fruit (raspberry and cherry). (2326 views)
 Tasted by Fat cat on 6/8/2014 & rated 88 points: Time...It's a patience thing. 10 years on and this wine has settled down into a very drinkable claret. The tannins are under control and there is still a solid fruit core with some secondary notes starting to emerge. This will drink nicely for another 5 years. (2385 views)
 Tasted by Connaître on 3/14/2014 & rated 89 points: Very fruit driven wine with a nice structure. The 2004 vintage does not get a 90 as the excessive barrel taste is overlaying the drinking experience. (2155 views)
 Tasted by KristianT on 12/26/2013 & rated 87 points: In a very closed stage right now. Everything seemed to be in order - i.e. this was not a bad bottle, but it did not show much of anything. Comparing to how well it drank a few years back it was a disappointing. Hope and expect that it simply need a bit more time to mature. Will try a bottle again two years from now. (2661 views)
 Tasted by Fat cat on 9/13/2013 & rated 86 points: This has settled down a bit since I last tried a bottle. The drying tannins are still present but seem more under control than before. Hopefully with a bit more time it will all integrate and then it will be a nice example of a modern fruit driven claret. (2874 views)
 Tasted by ThMeyer on 7/13/2013 & rated 91 points: This has developed very nicely - best bottle of this so far. Very approachable, with a new world touch to it, but with structure - tannins still present - has at least another 5 years to go. Tied for first place in recent 2004 BDX blind tasting at our house. (2857 views)
 Tasted by Michiel on 12/22/2012 & rated 86 points: Nose: cherries and violets, with lots of oak - quite pleasant; palate: good acidity with firm tannins which coat the mouth; not a lot of fruit but quite a bit of heat. Disappointing finish. (3624 views)
 Tasted by chatters on 11/13/2012: Discover Vin South West France & Provence and Bordeaux tasting (Fix St. James, 111 Elizabeth Street, Sydney): Nose Farmyard, struck match, meat, brambly black fruit, slightly perfumed top notes and hints of cedar
Mouth Juicy and savoury black fruit, supple tannins on the long finish. Very good. (3941 views)
 Tasted by Julian Marshall on 11/7/2012: A very pleasant surprise. Having loathed the previous 4 vintages, I approached this with some trepidation. On opening, there was the usual whiff of oak, but for once, there was also some black cherry and cassis. In the mouth, a lot of oak at first, but then some good ripe cherry and cassis, followed by blackberry and spicy plum flavours. That in itself is a first! Still a very modern style, with upfront fruit, slightly overdone, but the whole package is quite classic, almost elegant: it's a very enjoyable wine and good value. (3462 views)
 Tasted by sfqwino on 10/13/2012 & rated 89 points: Big, full and extracted. Still rather closed and backward even after 2 hours decant. Some aromatics peeking out here and there but went back to hiding rather quickly. (3019 views)
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Professional 'Channels'
By Julia Harding, MW
JancisRobinson.com (2/16/2009)
(Ch La Tour Carnet Haut-Médoc Red) Subscribe to see review text.
The World of Fine Wine, December 2008, Issue #22
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By Chris Kissack
Winedoctor, November 2008
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By Chris Kissack
Winedoctor, November 2008
(Château La Tour Carnet Haut-Médoc Red) Subscribe to see review text.
By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (10/16/2006)
(Ch La Tour Carnet Haut-Médoc Red) Subscribe to see review text.
By Chris Kissack
Winedoctor, October 2006
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By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, May/June 2005, IWC Issue #120
(Chateau La Tour Carnet Haut Medoc) Subscribe to see review text.
By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (4/7/2005)
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Château La Tour Carnet

Producer website - Read more about Chateau La Tour Carnet

Red Bordeaux Blend

Red Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.

Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.

France

Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)

Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings

2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.com

Bordeaux

Bordeaux Wine Guide

Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)

History of Bordeaux

History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification

"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson

"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson

"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson

"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon Rimmerman

Médoc

Vins du Médoc (Conseil des Vins du Médoc) - Read More about the Medoc

VdB

The eight precisely defined appellations of the whole of the Médoc (from Blanquefort Brook to the north of the Bordeaux built-up area, almost to the Pointe de Grave) may claim the Médoc appellation. But there is also a specific territory in the north of the peninsula which produces exclusively wines with this appellation. In the great majority, the Médocs come from the north of the peninsula. The great individuality of this region is that the number of vines has increased more recently here than elsewhere, apart from a few isolated spots where vines have grown for many years. Today, the size of the small estate has brought about the development of a powerful co-operative movement. Four co-operatives out of five belong to the group called Unimédoc which ensures aging, bottling and marketing a large proportion of their wines.

Haut-Médoc

Read more about Haut Medoc and its wines Long-standing fame The legally created division into Médoc and Haut-Médoc dates from 1935. But as long ago as 1815 a Chartrons broker, whose word carried weight, spoke of great red wines in the Haut-Médoc, so recognizing the high quality successfully achieved by this region's growers in the eighteenth century. The same Bordeaux broker revealed that the business world of the Chartrons and the great Bordeaux proprietors had established a sort of league-table of the parishes in which the vine-growing communes of today's Haut-Médoc appellation showed up well.

The Haut-Médoc appellation stretches over some thirty seven miles from north to south, from Saint-Seurin de Cadourne to Blanquefort. Within this area, certain zones produce wines exclusively with the Haut-Médoc appellation. It has terroirs of remarkable quality. And although we may note a certain predominance of layers of gravel (essentially Garonne gravel) from the Quaternary, all these sites are characterized by their wide diversity. Today in the southernmost communes of the appellation, the suburbs of Bordeaux, numerous vineyards which existed at the beginning of the twentieth century have disappeared, victims of urban expansion. But the vines live on... because man has retained his devotion to them.

The astonishing variety of different terroirs, the result of the very extent of the area, explains the diversity of Haut-Médoc wines, a fact which is rare within one and the same appellation.
But, over and above the differences, linked to this mosaic of climatic and geological influence, all these wines have the same family traits of character.
Alert and lively, full-bodied without being too powerful, and harmoniously balanced, they acquire a rare bouquet over the years.

In order to have the right to the Haut-Médoc appellation of controlled origin, red wines must:
- come from the communes of Blanquefort, Le Taillan, Parempuyre, Le Pian, Ludon, Macau, Arsac, Labarde, Cantenac, Margaux, Avensan, Castelnau, Soussans, Arcins, Moulis, Listrac, Lamarque, Cussac, Saint-Laurent de Médoc, Saint-Julien, Pauillac, Saint-Sauveur, Cissac, Saint-Estèphe, Vertheuil, Saint-Seurin de Cadourne "excluding all the parcels situated on recent alluvium and sand on impermeable subsoils",
- satisfy precise production conditions : grape-varieties (Cabernet-Sauvignon, Cabernet-Franc, Carmenère, Merlot Noir, Petit Verdot, Cot or Malbec), minimum of sugar (178 grammes - 6.27 oz. - per litre of must) degree (an acquired 10°5) base yield (48 hectolitres per hectare).

 
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