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| Community Tasting Notes (average 92.6 pts. and median of 93 pts. in 36 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by nnektarios on 3/3/2024 & rated 94 points: Round, ripe, very well balanced and concentrated, drinking easily at the moment and for many years ahead. Fresh, with crisp acidity offers an intense nose of black currant, plum, olives and menthol. The finish is so juicy, long and intense, offering great pleasure. (776 views) | | | Tasted by richshoes on 6/9/2023 & rated 94 points: Exquisite, linear, well balanced, soft rounded structure. Bright cherry, black pepper, dark plum (1859 views) | | | Tasted by richshoes on 5/14/2023 & rated 96 points: Exquisite, refined, elegant, big bodied--raspberry, blackberry, black pepper hints of plum and dark currant (1600 views) | | | Tasted by rm97 on 2/26/2023 & rated 92 points: Needs more time (1923 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 10/4/2022 & rated 93 points: Garrigue, green olive, leafy herb, and peppery, bright red fruits create the nose. On the palate, the wine is soft, polished, and fresh with a lean to the peppery, red fruit side of the style range. It is already showing quite well, so you can easily drink this now with pleasure, or age it for all of its future, secondary development. Produced from a blend of 50% Grenache, 20% Syrah, 20% Mourvedre, and 5% Cinsault, along with other, assorted red and white grape varieties. 60-70% of the harvest is destemmed. The wine is a product of very low yields as close to 35% of the crop was lost due to colure. Drink from 2022-2037. (3552 views) | | | Tasted by jlhkiss on 9/25/2022 & rated 92 points: Opened and decanted an hour ahead of mixed grilled pork chops. Dark, murky, purple-crimson color. The nose brings cherry blossoms, blueberry compote, white pepper, wild herbs, and crushed granite. The palate is full, round, compact, and textured, bringing a core of red cherries encapsulated in a wave of blackberries, blueberries, and blackcurrant, mixed with tobacco, garrigue, and baking spices into a tannic finish. This is very promising but still unfolding and will be best 2025-2035. Technical score: 93. Enjoyment score: 91. (2172 views) | | | Tasted by chatters on 9/20/2022: Pretty, fruit lozenge red berry compote - all raspberries and strawberries. Juicy but very slightly dilute red fruit, talc textured tannins. Nice but not as pleasing as I remember the 2016 being. (1672 views) | | | Tasted by ziavino on 8/26/2022 & rated 92 points: In a phase, and not firing on all cylinders yet. Black currant, black raspberry, and garrigue commingle, with a woodsy note emerging late. Smoldering below the surface, it's only a matter of time. (1609 views) | | | Tasted by brfarley on 6/21/2022: Very good (1615 views) | | | Tasted by JonBarnes1 on 6/16/2022: Nice balance of minerality with generous fruit. Red and black. Saline streak and some baking spices; this is more robust than I expected for a VT. Probably too early to drink. But I loved it anyway. (1182 views) | | | Tasted by Condrieu82 on 10/15/2021 & rated 93 points: Decanted 2h30m. Beautiful nose of plums and dark cherries, with some forest floor notes. The palate shows great acidity, with more plums and dark berries on the palate and white pepper and some wood notes on the long ending that’s marked by prominent, somewhat dusty tannins. Already a beauty - much better after the decanting - this will be a stunner in 4-5 years! (2384 views) | | | Tasted by Old Wine Maven on 9/21/2021: Way too young. Better on the 4th night. Even with a 2 hour decant, served with roast duck breast, it worked well, but not nearly integrated with the tannins yet. Clearly this will be a fantastic wine in about 5 - 10 years. Or with at least a 6 - 10 hour decant. (2255 views) | | | Tasted by Frijole on 9/10/2021: medium dark burgundy red, medium clarity, slight brickish hue
Nose: plum, boysenberry, black pepper, lavender, chocolate, espresso, bay leaf, touch olive leaf, black tea, juniper berry, thyme, hazelnut, vanilla, garrigue, caramel, ethanol, dirt, tannins, oak
Pal: plum, boysenberry, tobacco, tar, lavender, caramel, olive, black tea, juniper berry, hazelnut, garrigue, chocolate, dirt, earth, stones, chalk, tannins, oak
Feel: medium, savory
Finish: medium
T8 (could be a 7)
see how this progresses (2176 views) | | | Tasted by BernieMSY on 6/12/2021 & rated 94 points: Popped and poured.
Great, deep purple color..
Tons of sweet black and red fruit. Deep and integrated
It’s way too young right now, but I was traveling and it was the best option on the wine list.
This has the potential to be special. (2444 views) | | | Tasted by BallyJames on 4/17/2021 & rated 93 points: This is just fantastic, I love Telegraphe. The alcohol is well integrated, medium body, long finish, red well concentrated berries, and a great balance. This is drinking very well already, just needs 1 hour of air. (2729 views) | | | Tasted by KVM on 3/12/2021: Very dark. Subdued nose to start..with time shows dark fruit, sandalwood, roses. Linear at this stage, athletic. Good acid and easily the wine of the night. My style of CNdP. (2179 views) | | | Tasted by MC2 Wines on 1/17/2021: More restrained than I would have expected for a CdP. This had the acid to back up the fruit and a bit of more savory and earthy style. Looks like note before saw that too and wasn’t a fan, but for me it worked. I think the wine was still young and not quite as pulled together as I’d have hoped, but perhaps with some more time. Pleasant surprise. (2457 views) | | | Tasted by codysak on 1/12/2021 & rated 87 points: S: Deep Ruby.
N: Pronounced green beans, asparagus upfront that's troubling. Red cherries, plums, violets; but difficult to discern through the stemminess
P: M+ Acid, M+ Alc(a little heat is present), pronounced flavors, but not balanced. Chalking tannins. M+ finish, but not enjoyable
Unfortunately this hot vintage may have required early picking before phenolic ripeness, thus adding pronounced stem notes.
Acceptable wine lacking balance due to a hot challenging year... (2202 views) | | | Tasted by wgmccallum on 6/9/2020 & rated 94 points: Black plums, mocha, mushrooms, and lilacs on the nose. Deep dark salty fruit on the palate with a firm tannic base, a rising acid frame, and a fresh raspberry aromatic back note. Precocious with an internal measure of integrity, perfect with barbecued lamb on a bed greek oregano. (3218 views) | | | Tasted by danstrings on 4/26/2020 & rated 90 points: Classic earthy, fruity, brambly VT (2745 views) | | | Tasted by Vstalam on 1/11/2020 & rated 93 points: Out of a half-bottle and given a quick decant. Very pleasurable, opulent wine, but not over the top. Rich berry fruit dominates, but nice structure and slight hint of spice indicates it will age well. Look forward to trying some older bottles. (2890 views) | | | Tasted by djhammond on 9/1/2019 & rated 91 points: From an extensive tasting menu but from memory an impressive wine already approachable, but probably going to be better in a couple of years. (3417 views) | | | Tasted by rossi.wine on 11/20/2018 & rated 93 points: On the nose spicy, perfumed, pure fruit, smoke, crushed stones. On the palate fresh and bright, quite firm with powerful tannins, good fruit underneath, very good length. Spicy. 92-93+ (2510 views) | | | Tasted by vespasian on 11/20/2018: Lifted red berried, coulis-like nose; pretty fruits but ultimately a bit lightweight. Not VT quality. Not Ch9 quality! (5007 views) | | | Tasted by Shrewsram on 10/24/2018 & rated 93 points: Closer in appearance to the Racines than the other Châteaunufs.
Good perfumed nose. Elegant, with sweet fruit and a sweetness to the pepper. Herby and peppery, with some liqueur touches to the fruit. Lovely freshness and fragrant blue fruit.
Sweet and succulent attack; it feels full but there is great lift and poise. Lithe, I suppose.
Lovely freshness, very fine tannins, and pretty elegant.
Some dried fruit on the finish, fruit seeds – all clearly very ripe. Long.
More expressive than it usually appears to me. (2414 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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Vinous, Châteauneuf-du-Pape Weathers the Challenges and Changes (Oct 2021) (10/1/2021)
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JebDunnuck.com, Southern Rhône Part 1: The 2017s From bottle and 2018s From Barrel (8/16/2019)
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U.S. Importer (Addt'l Info)
A visit to Domaine Vieux Telegraphe hosted by proprietor Alain Brunier -
https://unwindwine.blogspot.com/2019/08/domaine-du-vieux-telegraphe-chateauneuf_3.html Red Rhone Blend Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.
A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce. La Crau On weinlagen-infoFrance Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comRhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)
### Wine Scholar Guild's Rhône valley vintage charts & ratings ###Southern Rhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Southern Rhone Valley
Châteauneuf-du-Pape Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape
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"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." - Robert Parker
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