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| Community Tasting Notes (average 91.3 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 6 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by RGCM Gananda on 11/2/2019 & rated 91 points: Prior bottle was nearly two years ago and the wine remains in a good spot, but has changed a bit from my prior notes. Much more of a white orchard feel on the nose now (as opposed to tropical) along with mineral, citrus and floral qualities. Medium bodied with white peach, pear and white melon upfront, adding a bit of depth and roundness through the middle along with background tropical notes (especially pineapple) that became more noticeable as the wine warmed. Backside shows good acidity and tart citrus notes (lemon and lime). Possibly opened a little cold as I was expecting more tropical notes and more expressiveness, inline with my prior bottle. The flavor profile is still quite enjoyable, but the intensity isn't what it was in prior bottles in either fruit, depth or acidity. Possibly a slight bottle variation issue but regardless, there's still much of interest here. (863 views) | | | Tasted by RGCM Gananda on 12/19/2017 & rated 92 points: Prior bottle was just over 14 months ago and this wine continues to show extremely well. White tropical fruit, minerals and floral qualities on the nose. Medium bodied and opened at 46F, warming to 52F. Fruit profile was very similar to the prior bottle with a mix of peach and green melon upfront and then adding white tropical fruit behind (especially pineapple and tangerine). Excellent acidity in the background along with notable grapefruit as well as lemon and lime qualities. As expected, the 2013 seems to be moving more towards the tropical end of the spectrum while the 2012 is more orchard fruit based. However, due to the higher acidity in the 2013 and the way the different fruit notes contrast with each other as well as blend with the acidity, it feels like there may be more complexity in the 2013. Has several years of improvement left and a long life beyond. I'll try and be patient and save my last bottle for Fall 2019 at the earliest. (1168 views) | | | Tasted by RGCM Gananda on 10/9/2016 & rated 92 points: Green fruit, floral and stone flint/stone qualities on the nose. Medium bodied (8.0% ABV) with very strong and lively acidity. Peach and melon upfront, backed by tropical fruit notes behind (pineapple, orange, passion fruit) but overlaid with vibrant acidity and tart notes of grapefruit, lemon and lime). Wine has plenty of fruit and richness to it and at this very young stage the acidity balances that out and then some. Unsurprisingly similar overall flavor profile to the 2012 version, but the 2013 has more acidity at this stage and I think ultimately, the 2013 will show as more tropical than the 2012. Personally, I like trying a bottle of spatlese young to enjoy how the acidity and the fruit play off each other, all the while knowing the true fruit complexity will come to the fore in another few years. (1413 views) | | | Tasted by cuffthis on 5/7/2016 & rated 91 points: Medium straw in color, this wine reveals focused aromas of passion fruit, lemon curd and graphite on the nose. The mouth feel has subtle sweetness, crisp acidity and pineapple undertones. The finish is vibrant with the bright acidity and tropical fruits in prefect balance. 8% abv.
Purchased for $30US, this is a delicious, complex offering that is just beginning to show at its best.
A Therry Thiese Selection. Imported by Skurnik Wines, New York, NY. (1656 views) | | | Tasted by gris on 4/25/2016 & rated 92 points: What a gorgeous mouth of red ruby grapefruit. Such a gorgeous wine that I have to be careful when to serve it as it can take over the table easily. Plenty of acidity and verve, this was a refreshing as they come. (1650 views) |
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#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)Mosel Saar RuwerStarting in 2007 the German wine authorities have changed labeling laws to rename all of the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wines to just "Mosel." This puts this and other database driven sites in a difficult spot, as millions of old wine label reflect the former labeling. As described here, CellarTracker has elected to remain with the old labeling for a number of years to avoid confusion. At some point we will switch over to just "Mosel" but not for a few years at least.
Mosel WeinKulturland (Moselwein e.V.)
Detailed geographical information at weinlagen.info
#2018 Vintage Notes:
"Acid levels are relatively low throughout Riesling-growing Europe (acidification will once again be permitted in Germany – no surprise, as that’s been the case in eight of the last 10 vintages); but because malic acid was baked off or degraded by relentlessly balmy weather means, what acid remains is overwhelmingly of the efficacious tartaric sort. Extract levels are low, as one would anticipate from a growing season during which relatively little moisture was coursing through the vine’s roots and shoots. [...] Everyone is astonished how there could have been so much juice despite the drought." - David Schildknecht
"2018 is a homogenous vintage with a very high general level, below which it seldom falls [...] It leads with blossom. It is perhaps 80% delicious and 20% fascinating." - Terry Theise
#2017 Vintage Notes:
"not so friendly towards light wines" - Milkmansteve
#2016 Vintage Notes: "Overall, 2016 is a charmer of a vintage with much immediate ripe and fruity appeal, not unlike 2011 (in fresher) or 2007 (in lighter). However, 2016 is far from being homogeneous, in fact it is composed of a mosaic of vintages, a result of the freakish growing conditions. Hidden inside the vintage, there are true gems with the balance of 1997, one of the best vintages ever, 2002 or even 2008. The bulk of the harvest was brought in with refreshingly moderate sugar levels. Overall, the Saar and Ruwer produced slightly fresher wines than the Middle Mosel but there are great differences between Estates. The good harvest conditions allowed for some Auslese, little BA and even TBA wines, but some remarkably pure and fruity Eiswein.
In general, 2016 offers the opportunity to acquire Riesling with great immediate ripe appeal: The vintage is a true charmer. At the top, 2016 is one of the most exciting and elegantly balanced vintage since the 1990s and well-worth stocking up for cellaring! In particular, we urge our readers to literally plunge onto the finest Kabinett and Spätlese: These are some of the most exciting and classic we have ever tasted. 2016 looks also set to become a major vintage for dry Riesling, provided the aromatics are not overripe. Lovers of dessert wines will find much to love in 2016 as the Auslese are pure and the Eiswein are gorgeously fruity. They should however also keep an eye open for the remaining stunning noble-sweet wines from 2015 which are still available here and there." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 36, July 2017
#2014 Vintage Notes:
"The heterogeneity of the 2014 vintage carries over onto the aging process. The top wines start to close down, as one would expect from these wines which are a remake of those from the 1990s. The wines affected by gin, saffron and mushroom flavors are still comparatively open and offer a not unattractive Scheurebe styled fruit opulence. We would opt to drink up these lesser wines except for the odd bottle and bury the little treasures of the vintage deep into the cellar." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 30, March 2016
#2013 Vintage Notes:
"The fruity-styled 2013 wines have firmed up significantly since last year and start to show signs of closing down, making the underlying acidity seemingly sharp and out of balance. The better dry wines have come out of their early armor of smoke and tannin but the acidity may prove quite challenging. Quite frankly, except for some smaller bottlings, this is a vintage to lay down and wait." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2012 Vintage Notes:
"The 2012 wines have put on some flesh and go through a 'fattier' phase which is not unlike what the 2007 went through at the same period. However, the zestier acidity cuts through this 'weight' and makes the wines thoroughly enjoyable at this early stage. In particular the fruity Kabinett and Spatlese as well as the off-dry and dry wines offer much pleasure. We expect these wines to close down over the coming year or two. Enjoy while it lasts!" - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2011 Vintage Notes:
"A bit to our surprise, the 2011 wines have shut down and go through a quite difficult and muted phase now. Their low acidity combined with their maturity makes them feel rich, opulent and often bulky, and thus not really enjoyable. We expect that these will need at least a decade to integrate their sweetness and gain in harmony. The only exception is the dry wines, whose low acidity makes for great food companionship." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2010 Vintage Notes:
"After a mellower period in 2012, many 2010 wines have firmed up and developed a stronger smoky side. However, most continue to shine through their fruit opulence, structure and deliciously zesty but ripe acidity. This suits in particular the off-dry bottlings, which have more charm than the legally dry wines. Will these wines close down? Actually, the softening acidity makes us wonder now but it also provides further evidence that these wines will turn out harmonious after all." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2009 Vintage Notes:
"Most 2009 wines have closed down, which accentuates their round and soft side forward. Many can still be quite enjoyable but the times of primary fruit with its attractive aromatic expression and a generous acidic kick are now over. Except for the dry wines, we would definitely recommend keeping your hands off any bottle in your cellar and possibly buying more wines from this vintage on the market as these are true gems in the making." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015 |
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