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| Community Tasting Notes (average 92 pts. and median of 93 pts. in 264 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by Wine Canuck on 4/19/2024 & rated 96 points: Perfect bottle with a high fill into the neck. This pours medium ruby in the glass with faint bricking. The nose is just soaring with classic Margaux perfume showing violets, plum, barnyard, charcoal, tobacco, and wet soil. The palate is youthful and silky showing loads of plum and violets with silky medium tannin and medium acid. The finish is long and layered replaying the classic violets and plums. All in all this was an incredible and regal showing from the 1970 Palmer. About as I good as I could imagine it showing. Just a hair behind the incredible 1983 and 1989 I've had. What's particularly amazing here is the amount of life this 54 year old wine is showing. Should easily make it another 54 years and beyond. (376 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 4/2/2024 & rated 94 points: Slightly perhaps its best days, yet, if well stored, this is a beauty. The perfume delivers its smoke, cassis, dried flowers, cedar and earthy notes easily. Medium-bodied, finesse in style, with a black cherry, and spice note in the finish. No decanting needed, just pop and pour. Drink from 2024-2028. (1238 views) | | | Tasted by pavel_p on 2/25/2024: Don’t think I have finished a bottle in worse condition than this 70 Palmer. Cork sunken in and leaking fairly recently into the OWC, hence low shoulder. Managed to remove the cork with the Durand and with the white mold on top of the cork too. Initially moldy notes with plenty of mushroom on nose and attack but not outright oxidized. After a few hours of slow ox, this blew off though and the wine was still holding up, showing dark fruit, integrated tannins and a short finish. Bottles in good condition will show much better for sure (530 views) | | | Tasted by beatles on 2/20/2024 & rated 91 points: Gatecrashing the competition. This is a very vertical, classic Palmer, dark berries, pronounced tobacco, very dry, dusty, more than decent length. Declining, Drink up.
#Møntergade#Ib&Ole (809 views) | | | Tasted by ankitmehra on 2/9/2024 & rated 96 points: Four Decades of Left Bank Bordeaux with Friends (New York): Crisis averted as, despite using a Durand, the cork was doing us no favours on this bottle, forcing our hand to strain the wine into a decanter. To our surprise, the wine actually benefited from the decant, opening up to be a gem over the duration we enjoyed it. The nose had a brilliant balance of tertiary components as forest floor and tobacco were counteracted by mint and red cherries. The palate, though, evolved to represent the elegance we so often associate with wine from Margaux. An upfront that lures you in with notes of chocolate, plum and dark cherries shifted into a tertiary mid-palate of cedar wood, earthy funk and licorice before a gamey finish came in that elongated the wine's silkiness. Château Palmer regularly impresses me, and with this being the oldest example I've had to date, it really showed the prowess of the château. (595 views) | | | Tasted by GrapeScott on 1/13/2024 & rated 90 points: Upper mid-shoulder fill, Mahler-Besse. Cork was in good condition and came out in one piece, but there were signs of previous seepage. Not as good as a previous, stunning bottle but still very enjoyable. Margaux elegance, with plum, cedar and cassis notes, a bit oxidized on the finish. (641 views) | | | Tasted by The Wine Monkeys on 1/1/2024 flawed bottle: Sadly. The cork was trashed and the wine was toast. (600 views) | | | Tasted by Bronson Meadows on 11/24/2023: Beautiful balance and carry through. Cork disintegrated but wine was perfect. (602 views) | | | Tasted by Eric on 11/8/2023 & rated 91 points: 54th birthday dinner. Near birth year. This started slowly, surprisingly dark and dusky, not very forthcoming at first. But oh the depth! Layers and layers of chocolate covered cherry and mineral with impressive freshness and structure. I have had better bottles, and this wine has seen better days, but it is still an impressive Margaux. Deep, red fruit. Deep minerality. Smoke. Surprisingly structured and austere. (1102 views) | | | Tasted by JulianSkeels on 10/7/2023: Corked. Decent looking material underneath (788 views) | | | Tasted by NewFrenchClaret on 9/9/2023 & rated 90 points: Bought two of these, drank the worst looking one about a year ago and it was an ethereal delight.
This one's a touch more straightforward. Light in color, candied red fruit nose; leather, varnish, rosemary and a lovely meaty note. Tons of other stuff going on- this is really complex.
Palate is not quite as good. Quite sweet, acid is pleasant and not overbearing, but the tannins have faded a bit too much and the wine seems a bit tired.
When it's on song this is the second best wine of the vintage after the Latour. This wasn't quite up to scratch though. (816 views) | | | Tasted by dream on 9/6/2023 & rated 92 points: Quite mature and perhaps in decline but it showed a lovely lithe texture and good complexity with notes of balsamic, subdued black fruits and soy sauce. Drink up! At NYC Commanderie Dinner, L'Appart. (908 views) | | | Tasted by ricknat1 on 9/5/2023 & rated 94 points: Still the same as the last notes I took 6 years ago brought to CdB dinner and was the wine of the night. Smooth and silky but a slight dryness after the finish. I thought that was a sign of aging in 2017 but it’s exactly the same now. Had dinner with the CEO of Palmer and he thought it would be the same for at least another decade. (646 views) | | | Tasted by Dionysos55 on 3/12/2023 & rated 95 points: Robe bien évoluée.Bouquet d'une belle intensité sans être grandiose mais surtout d'une très belle complexité.Une belle panoplie d'arômes défile à tour de rôle suivant l'aération du vin: cassis,cerise,menthol,réglisse,sous-bois,épices,café.C'est vraiment virevoltant et enthousiasmant.La bouche est d'une suavité magnifique,d'une élégance magistrale.Ce qui fait que la cote reste à 95 c'est la longueur qui est certes bien présente mais pas grandiose.Un vrai délice néanmoins !!!! (1342 views) | | | Tasted by fclarity on 2/20/2023 & rated 94 points: From a magnum, this wine had a deep red center and puce rims. The medium intensity nose offered up cherries, violets, soil and some brown spices.
In the mouth, this wine was refined and nicely integrated. It had notable rounded tannin and great acidity. While it was not wildly complex, it wasn't boring either.
While there is certainly no reason to wait, this wine should hang in there at this level, particularly in magnum, for 5 years or so. (1350 views) | | | Tasted by MC2 Wines on 11/21/2022: Wine Workshop: Chateau Palmer (Benoit): A surprise for me in this tasting. I do think of 1970 as being one of the more drinkable years of Bordeaux but I don't think of anything from that decade being a truly great wine and this was much closer to great than just drinkable. Very fresh, lots of black fruits, the slight green/earthy notes you might get from a crisp spring day outdoors. Very nice. (2001 views) | | | Tasted by GrapeScott on 9/18/2022 & rated 94 points: High shoulder fill with a crumbling cork. Not decanted and this was fairly reticent upon opening, but this really blossomed with about an hour of air time. Very Margaux, elegant and refined, with floral/violet notes, cassis, plum and some cedar notes. So sauve, this was just fantastic at the 2h mark. This is definitely the best BDX from the vintage that I've tried. (1907 views) | | | Tasted by Herb K on 8/19/2022: Took about 20-minutes for this wine to open up, becoming floral and full of perfume with velvety, soft tannins. (2018 views) | | | Tasted by englishman's claret on 7/2/2022 & rated 91 points: Tasted blind, the tension between the soft Merlot fruit and the structure imparted by the Cabernet Sauvignon really shines through. This shows red and black cherry with tobacco accents through no recognizable floral elements. According to Broadbent, this was only 30% Cabernet Sauvignon. (2533 views) | | | Tasted by Wrighty on 6/10/2022 & rated 91 points: This felt like it had seen better days at the start but slowly opened up during the evening. Never quite hit the heights of the Batailley but showed complexity and balance. (1745 views) | | | Tasted by Dehrmann on 5/14/2022 & rated 94 points: Atera - odv - 1970 Jaboulet - 1970 Yquem
Superb min 1 (1598 views) | | | Tasted by hprphf on 10/27/2021 & rated 93 points: Great nose. Woody and so deep. Complex layers of full flavors. 93 (2494 views) | | | Tasted by frenchiecagowine on 10/8/2021: 60 years of Chateau Palmer (Torali): Part of a flight of Chateau Palmer, this is probably the one that didn't seem at its best. No rating since some thought it may have a slight TCA taint. I think this bottle might have been off. (2418 views) | | | Tasted by ohearsey on 7/21/2021 & rated 93 points: I was slightly worried that this would be past it but I need not have worried. Cork in good shape and very little sediment when decanted. Opened up over an hour, paired with ribeye and chips, what more could I ask for. This has plenty of time left in it with fruit still there but that sublime balance that old claret can deliver. Wonderful. (2442 views) | | | Tasted by jmoore431 on 6/13/2021 & rated 93 points: Brought to dinner out by a marauding visitor from “the Windy City”: despite being dragged through airports in checked luggage within the prior 72 hours, this showed very nicely. No formal notes but it was evolved, graceful and elegant with wonderful complexity. (2572 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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| Château Palmer Producer website - Read more about Chateau Palmer
Château Palmer, whose pedigree architecture is a hallmark of its superb produce, is an undisputed star of the prestigious Margaux appellation. History reports that in the 18th century, its wines (under the name Château de Gascq) were held in very high esteem at the court of Versailles, then later by Louis XV. Its vineyard lies upon the famous gravel hillocks home to the greatest of Médoc wines.
A time-proven blend of grape varieties, especially thorough vineyard management and wine-making strickly designed to respect a superb 'terroir' constantly produce wines of immense expression, unrivalled elegance and charm, exceptionnal aromatic complexity and legendary subtlety
Owner: Société Civile du Château Palmer, formed in 1938 by families of French, English and Dutch origin.
Origin: Charles Palmer, English Major General purchased the estate in 1814. A passionate entrepreneur, Charles Palmer expanded and modernized the estate and gave his name to one of the most beautiful properties in Margaux.
The terroir:
Area: 55 hectares spread over the rises of Cantenac. Most of the plots are located on the plateau of thin gravel from the Güntz period, situated along the water.
Soil: Plateau of thin gravel from the Güntz period
Grape varieties planted: 47 % Merlot, 47 % Cabernet Sauvignon, 6 % Petit Verdot
Average age of the vines: 38 years
The Team:
CEO: Thomas Duroux
Technical Director: Sabrina Pernet
Cellar Master: Olivier Campadieu
Vineyard Manager: Jacques Dupin
Oenologist: Jacques BoissenotRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanMédoc Vins du Médoc (Conseil des Vins du Médoc) - Read More about the Medoc
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The eight precisely defined appellations of the whole of the Médoc (from Blanquefort Brook to the north of the Bordeaux built-up area, almost to the Pointe de Grave) may claim the Médoc appellation. But there is also a specific territory in the north of the peninsula which produces exclusively wines with this appellation. In the great majority, the Médocs come from the north of the peninsula. The great individuality of this region is that the number of vines has increased more recently here than elsewhere, apart from a few isolated spots where vines have grown for many years. Today, the size of the small estate has brought about the development of a powerful co-operative movement. Four co-operatives out of five belong to the group called Unimédoc which ensures aging, bottling and marketing a large proportion of their wines.Margaux Read more about Margaux and its wines As with a large part of the Bordeaux vineyards, vines first appeared in Margaux during the Gallo-Roman period.
In 1705 a text mentions Château Margaux . But we have to wait for the end of the eighteenth century and the coming of the earliest techniques in aging for the concept of wines of high quality to develop. The confirmation of this was the famous 1855 classification which recognized 21 Crus Classés in the Margaux appellation. One hundred years later, the Viticultural Federation and the Margaux appellation of controlled origin were born. The appellation, which stretches out over five communes, is actually unique in the Médoc in that it is the only one to contain all the range of wines, as rich as they are vast, from First Great Cru Classé to the Fifths, not forgetting its famous Crus Bourgeois and its Crus Artisans.
In Margaux there is a predominance of Garonne gravel on a central plateau of about 4 miles in length and one and a quarter wide. To the east-south-east, it overlooks the low lying land by the estuary. Its east side is marked by gentle, dry valleys and a succession of ridges.The layer of gravel in Margaux was spread out by a former Garonne in the early Quaternary. Rather large in size, it is mingled with shingle of average dimension and represents the finest ensemble of Günz gravel in the Haut-Médoc. It is on this ancient layer on a Tertiary terrace of limestone or clayey marl that the best Médoc crus lie. All the conditions for successful wine are present : a large amount of gravel and pebbles, poor soil which cannot retain water and deep rooted vines.
It is customary to say that Margaux wines are the "most feminine" in the Médoc, thus stressing their delicacy, suppleness and their fruity, elegant aromas. This does not affect their great propensity for aging; just the opposite, for the relatively thin terroir imparts tannins which give them long life. The other characteristic of these wines which combine an elegant vitality, subtlety and consistency, is their diversity and personality. Over and above the flavour which is their "common denominator", they present an exceptional palette of bouquets, fruity flavours which show up differently from one château to another.
Production conditions (Decree dated August 10 1954)
In order to have the right to the Margaux appellation of controlled origin, red wines must:
- come from the commune of Margaux, Cantenac, Soussans, Arsac and Labarde, "excluding the land which by the nature of its soil or because of its situation, is unfit to produce wine of this appellation".
- satisfy precise production conditions: grape-varieties (Cabernet-Sauvignon, Cabernet-Franc, Carmenère, Merlot Noir, Petit Verdot, Cot or Malbec), minimum of sugar (178 grammes - 6.27 oz. - per litre of must) degree (an acquired 10°5) base yield (45 hectolitres per hectare).
Vins de Bordeaux:
Grape Varieties: Cabernet Sauvignon, Malbec, Petit Verdot, Merlot
Soil: Gravel and silt plateau on a layer of limestone or silt on clay
Surface Area: 1,530 ha |
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