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 Vintage2008 Label 1 of 95 
TypeRed
ProducerClos Saint Jean (web)
VarietyRed Rhone Blend
DesignationVieilles Vignes
Vineyardn/a
CountryFrance
RegionRhône
SubRegionSouthern Rhône
AppellationChâteauneuf-du-Pape

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2012 and 2020 (based on 9 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Clos St. Jean Chateauneuf du Pape Vieilles Vignes on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 89.7 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 49 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by Gunman on 2/22/2024: My last bottle was in 2015. Much too young then. Tannins were overpowering. This is brilliant now. Dark, dark fruit. Black plum and leather. A little soy sauce. Integrated tannins. Long finish. This has more years ahead of it, but it’s super tasty right now. Glad I waited for the second bottle. Tasted under Coravin, so I’ll enjoy for the next week or two. (263 views)
 Tasted by studleytrey on 11/3/2020 & rated 88 points: Last of 3, last note in '17, and a little different impression this time so we'll note it. BTW, an '08 seemed appropriate tonight. 🤞

Medium garnet color. Aromas of darker fruits this time, along with leather and graphite. Medium body, medium (+) acid and finish, with flavors of black plum, cassis, blackberry, and minerals. Overall, a darker constitution than before. I think I like it similarly, but slightly less. Still a good value for the $20 paid. (1255 views)
 Tasted by studleytrey on 1/3/2017 & rated 88 points: Ruby to garnet in color with some transparency. Nose was tight initially, but a little time in glass and decanter revealed smoke, earth, dark red fruits, tobacco, and orange peel. Medium body, medium (+) acid and finish, with flavors of red and dark red fruits, black tea, orange peel, and mineral. Pretty solid. (2872 views)
 Tasted by gcarl on 8/16/2016 & rated 91 points: Similar impressions as my 3/30/14 notes except that it did not need early opening/airing. P&Ped at wake for dear friend, was well received with/without food by others. A steal at $20 3 years ago. (2706 views)
 Tasted by td1836 on 8/5/2016 & rated 91 points: GSM comparison with friends: Reddish brown color really coming through on the edges now starting to show some age. Definitely get red fruits mixed with meaty/bacon aromas, and lots of earthy and barn yard components. Medium weight with some herbs on the finish. Drinking really well right now. (3026 views)
 Tasted by td1836 on 8/1/2015 & rated 91 points: Nose is good perfume of red fruits and spice. The palate brings blueberry, cooked meat, dark raspberry, a hint of cherry, and lots of herbs. Tannins and still very present, but the alcohol is not coming through anymore. Relatively short finish, and wish the palate was at the same level as the nose. (3487 views)
 Tasted by vinodolphin on 7/25/2015 & rated 91 points: Everyone loved it. Another great showing. (2751 views)
 Tasted by thesternowl on 5/7/2015 & rated 90 points: Decanted for about one hour. Cork in great condition. Delightful nose of bacon fat, garrigue and red fruits. On the palate, however, it wasn't quite as expressive which was a little disheartening because the bouquet was full of promise. Firm tannins still. Short finish. Paired wonderfully with cassoulet. Still a very nice bottle and I would certainly try this one again should I have an opportunity. This was my only bottle; a generous gift from a friend. (2022 views)
 Tasted by vinodolphin on 3/14/2015 & rated 91 points: Enjoyed by all. (1750 views)
 Tasted by manny651 on 1/31/2015 & rated 91 points: this is aging phenomenaly well (1796 views)
 Tasted by metel on 1/14/2015 & rated 90 points: Dark fruit and earth, smooth tannins and long finish. High in alcohol. It drinks well now but could improve more in cellar. (1389 views)
 Tasted by DBunk on 12/26/2014 & rated 85 points: Evolved nicely over 2h in decanter but the alcohol was too much and kept this out of balance and continually stomped out the fruit, earth and other scents that wanted to dance. Namely blackberries, fig, boysenberry tea, garrigue (1355 views)
 Tasted by vinodolphin on 11/24/2014 & rated 91 points: Opened for 2 hours and had with nice steak. Good showing as everyone enjoyed. (1398 views)
 Tasted by LemurKing on 11/17/2014 & rated 91 points: Tasting good. A bit dirty on the palate, but I can like that.
It's still quite young, but very approachable currently. Pretty concentrated nose. Initially barn-y on the first taste, but the fruits wander in to join with the smut, and continue on through a decent and interestingly pleasant farm and fruit finish.

Initially I was going to give it 90 pts, but I upped it to 91 because it warrants it due to a nice blend of tones (granted from the farm) (1224 views)
 Tasted by alfazed on 5/26/2014: Too raisiny - must have missed the window (1586 views)
 Tasted by alfazed on 5/26/2014 & rated 89 points: Very nice, but a little muted (1770 views)
 Tasted by monahanchris on 5/15/2014: I was somewhat disappointed in this.

Slow ox for 2+ hours. Medium/dark ruby color. Nose of cherry, pepper, light bret, and a little hot. On the palate strong red fruit and high alcohol. Medium/light acidity and gripping tannin. Fairly long finish.

The heat on this wine threw it out of balance for me. I have liked a lot of 2008 CdP because they tend to be approachable in their youth and tend to have more subdued, elegant profiles than the 07, 09, or 10; but this wine was anything but approachable or subdued. (1978 views)
 Tasted by gcarl on 3/30/2014 & rated 91 points: Opened 2 hours before blind tasting. Dark fruit, brett funk upon initial pours, then opened up with baking spices, floral, and fruit on the nose and palate. A steal at$20. (1710 views)
 Tasted by vinodolphin on 2/12/2014 & rated 91 points: Opened for two hours. Everyone loved it. Grabbing this for $20 was a real steal. Good fruit, smooth with a long finish. (1830 views)
 Tasted by td1836 on 12/21/2013 & rated 91 points: Meaty, earthy flavors, backberry and cherry in the background. Spice on the finish. (906 views)
 Tasted by metel on 12/15/2013 & rated 88 points: Very dark and dense with good dark fruit packed in it. Has unpleasant tartness out of the bottle, which subsides with decanting. It should benefit from more cellaring. (1742 views)
 Tasted by BordeauxBuff on 12/14/2013 & rated 88 points: Still very tannic, should be better with time. Not overly complex. A good effort for this vintage. Modern style CDP. (1569 views)
 Tasted by JJKinch on 10/3/2013: Dark fruit, plum, hot, anise. Heat dominates. Disjointed. Not that
enjoyable. Not sure if this is flawed in comparison with my last bottle. (1688 views)
 Tasted by gdbarton1@gmail.com on 9/8/2013 & rated 89 points: Very dark purple opaque. Dry, black plum jam with spice notes. Still closed jammy, black fruit, dry pleasant plum fruit, closed dry tannins. Might get better, needs to open up. Good backbone. (1944 views)
 Tasted by manny651 on 5/26/2013 & rated 90 points: Much improved from last tasting. This time we let it decant for 3 hours prior and this made a difference. Pretty nose and smooth, earthy and fruity. (2147 views)
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JebDunnuck.com, Issue #13 (10/1/2012)
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Clos Saint Jean

Producer website - Read more about Clos Saint Jean

U.S. Importer (Addt'l Info)

The Domaine was founded around 1900 by Edmond Tacussel. However, in 1910 "Clos Saint Jean" was actually created with the registering of the brand. The vineyard has expanded through the generations - in 1920 by Edmonds’ son, Leopold Tacussel, in 1930 by Edmond’s son-in-law Camille Maurel and in 1957 by his grandson Guy Maurel. When Guy passed away in 1982, his wife Jocelyne Maurel who gave up her teaching position, together with their two sons, Vincent and Pascal (great grandsons of Edmond), took over the management of the family domaine with some of the best situated vines in all of Chateauneuf-du-Pape, all in the area of La Crau. Jocelyne Maurel died in November 2003. In 2002, Philippe Cambie had been hired as consulting oenologist/viticulturist, and he is (as is well-known to readers of Robert Parker’s writings), one of the greatest oenologists of Chateauneuf. Up until early September, the year 2002 was one of the most promising vintages in recent times, but a disastrous flood ruined the vintage. The Maurels sold off the entire crop to negociants and made no wine. In 2003, the brothers and Mr. Cambie were ready and nailed down the 2003 vintage to perfection. What they did was a little counter-intuitive (following the calamity of 2002) and took enormous courage — they waited, and waited, to pick. Even though 2003 was a hot year, with high sugars early on, they did not succumb to the temptation to pick the crop before it might rain, and instead held off. They started picking in late September, when virtually everyone else had finished. The wines all display supreme physiological and phenolic ripeness, without notes of surmaturity or over-ripeness. They are all deeply colored, rich and profound, even at an early stage.

Red Rhone Blend

Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.

A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce.

Vieilles Vignes

Old Vine/Vieilles Vignes (Wikipedia)

France

Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)

Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings

2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.com

Rhône

Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)

### Wine Scholar Guild's Rhône valley vintage charts & ratings ###

Southern Rhône

Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Southern Rhone Valley

Châteauneuf-du-Pape

Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape

Another site on this appellation
Vineyards on weinlagen-info

"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." - Robert Parker

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