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| Community Tasting Notes (average 90.1 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 83 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by davergny on 11/30/2021 & rated 92 points: Drinking very well! Plummy fruit, forest notes, bit of red pepper. Silky and lush, pleasant finish. (1269 views) | | | Tasted by Mid Palate Tingle on 9/18/2021: 2hr decant. Intense with dark fruit and quite a heavy toast.
Very smooth and drinkable. Can't see this improving but based on current condition this could hold for quite a while. (1296 views) | | | Tasted by slywka7 on 12/6/2020 & rated 90 points: Slow oxed for 1.5 hours then decanted for 45 minutes. Very typical Pomerol nose of iron, burning embers, black cherry and a hint of plum. Flavors of cherry, plum, currant and an iron streak running through it. Still get a bite of tannin on this. Begging for food with this. Ends with a 15 second finish with a black cherry note. Has some nice fruit but all in a Bordeaux terms. (1612 views) | | | Tasted by df1962 on 6/27/2019 & rated 88 points: Wine Boys - 2005 Bordeaux plus some Ringers: From Vandiner's cellar
PnP 2/3 of the bottle let air for 90 mins.
Tasted blind.
Clear medium ruby.
Clean fresh cassis raspberry closed herbal note on the nose.
Tight dry cassis plum and herbal on the palate. (2778 views) | | | Tasted by Laminarman on 6/1/2019 & rated 90 points: Wonderfully smooth and easy drinking. Seemed to fall apart a bit at the end of the bottle which was consumed over several hours. There was a fair amount of sediment and I left a half glass in the bottle.
This could have been partly the meal, the amount of aeration but it seemed to lack the acidity and tannin it first did when opened. Was decanted then poured right away. I wish I had more, I just would have drank it or shared it faster I suppose. (2326 views) | | | Tasted by davergny on 3/30/2019 & rated 91 points: Seems to have lots of Pomerol character. Plummy merlot with hints of cacao, red pepper and herbs. The 2005 vintage amps it up a bit, with a nice sweet touch, full body and roundness.
Not yet mature but drinking nicely. (1797 views) | | | Tasted by ADiamond on 12/7/2018 & rated 90 points: A little underwhelming at first, but opened up and became a little more vivrant as dinner progressed. (1813 views) | | | Tasted by Laminarman on 11/1/2018 & rated 92 points: Drinking very well right now with a soft rounded palate, sweet tobacco and cassis. Very nice. (1528 views) | | | Tasted by randyjc on 7/15/2018 & rated 89 points: Excellent Bordeaux aromatics. The wine is surprisingly assertive - vivid acidity but supported by good fruit and earthiness. If I could go back and buy this again, I just might. We had it with short ribs and it matched up quite nicely - enough oomph to hold its own with just about any dish (except high acid dishes). (1626 views) | | | Tasted by Bellissimo on 1/5/2018 flawed bottle: Mildly corked. Some classic Bordeaux flavors with tobacco and cassis underneath but distracted by the cork taint. Bad purchase back in the day with only 1 of 3 showing well. (1964 views) | | | Tasted by Smatk on 12/31/2017 & rated 91 points: Nicely aromatic, dark garnet to a clear rim. Decanted - opened after about 30 minutes. Nose of sweet black fruit and a warm, spicy wood, some hints of violet. Compelling nose. Bright acidity on the palate, dark cherry, sweet cassis, warm spice, vanilla, some mocha. Paired with cheese plate; mimolette and brie. More food friendly than quaffer - although in a nice place. (1644 views) | | | Tasted by phynes on 12/21/2017 & rated 90 points: Smooth, enjoyable, typical Pomerol. More forward than other wines from this vintage. Nothing out of the ordinary but a nice glass full all the same. (1596 views) | | | Tasted by COWineLover on 12/20/2017 & rated 85 points: This has transitioned into a secondary flavor based Bordeaux. Feeling a bit tired, this has sandalwood, cassis, light coffee, and a bit of bramble.
The finish is not very crisp, and it is brief. Unremarkable thus far. Will track development and update as needed. (1525 views) | | | Tasted by ADiamond on 11/25/2017 & rated 93 points: Drinking well, it opened well up over a 2 hour dinner. Very low tannins, fruit well integrated, medium acidity. (1401 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 10/26/2016 & rated 89 points: Medium bodied, soft textured, open and ready for business, with a wealth of sweet, juicy plum, freshness, and black licorice. (3447 views) | | | Tasted by wine&roses on 10/19/2016 flawed bottle: Scoundrel WineBid consignor. Not hard to write a program that rates consignors to auction sites without identifying them. You would just know that this consignor has one or two out of five stars for reliability of his description of the wine's condition--and you'd be warned accordingly. This would be completely separate from your rating of the wine itself. (2590 views) | | | Tasted by bevetroppo on 10/6/2016 flawed bottle: There was something nasty and weedy in the nose and flavors that I have never encountered before and hope to never find again. I'm assuming that it had to be a flaw because no winemaker would put his name on it, no negotiant would buy it, no importer would import it, and no retailer would attempt to foist it on an unsuspecting public in this condition. Yeah, right. But on the plus side it threw a nice sediment. (2695 views) | | | Tasted by wine&roses on 10/5/2016: A curse on the consignor. Do unto others, pal. (2336 views) | | | Tasted by wine&roses on 10/5/2016 & rated 85 points: This is normally quite a nice wine, but the scoundrel who consigned this lot to WineBid, willing to pass the fruits of his inept storage onto somebody else, really deserves not to drink another glass of wine in his life. I wish WineBid and other such auction sites would have a rating system on consignors, so you could know you were buying from a trustworthy or a sleazy source. This guy would get zero stars. (2193 views) | | | Tasted by bobadopolis on 4/16/2016 & rated 90 points: Nice bordeaux with a titch of age on it. Great QPR. (1824 views) | | | Tasted by Bellissimo on 3/25/2016 flawed bottle: Stewed / cooked / heat damaged. (1897 views) | | | Tasted by COWineLover on 3/13/2016 & rated 90 points: First bottle of a half case. Pnp through a Vinturi. This was accessible shortly after pouring. Lots of sediment in the bottle. This had aromas of dried herbs, light note of mocha, cedar, tobacco leaves, and currant. On the palate the tannins are well integrated and dusty. The flavor profile is dominated by the secondary flavors of cedar, tobacco, smoke, and some coffee in the finish. Good drive through the finish with some lingering smoke and iron. Solid overall and at $30 this is a solid value. I don't feel rushed to drink my remaining bottles based on tonight's performance. (1888 views) | | | Tasted by michael47 on 2/15/2016 & rated 90 points: Nice muted nose of blackberry and wood. Fleshy in the mouth but quite dry with serious tannins showing through on aftertaste. Popped and poured - should open up nicely with some air. (1952 views) | | | Tasted by RDemp7 on 12/27/2015 & rated 91 points: Great balance. (2094 views) | | | Tasted by quanmeister on 10/3/2015 & rated 89 points: Still lots of fruit. One of the better Bordeaux wines I have had in this price range. Held for 7 years. Not worth the wait. (1949 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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U.S. Importer (Addt'l Info)Red Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanLibournais Libournais (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) - Read more about St. Emilion and its wines - Read more about Pomerol and its wines
Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC
In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984.
As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as:
- sales price levels
- national and international commercial distribution
- the estate's reputation on the market
Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville.
The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas.
By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case.
Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?Pomerol Wikipedia | French wine guide - Read about Pomerol |
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