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 Vintage2005 Label 2 of 474 
TypeRed
ProducerChâteau Palmer (web)
VarietyRed Bordeaux Blend
Designationn/a
Vineyardn/a
CountryFrance
RegionBordeaux
SubRegionMédoc
AppellationMargaux
UPC Code(s)000001975055, 071570021238, 088156010951, 099999002010, 3394150019546, 3394150034228, 3394150696013, 3612170013543, 3700188007330, 3700266202978, 3700266203678, 607921008667, 616773385901, 873902008036

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2018 and 2042 (based on 80 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Palmer on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 95.6 pts. and median of 96 pts. in 178 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by dglebo on 5/3/2024 & rated 95 points: 19 year old Palmer that’s been in my cellar since 2008. Scarlet to the eye, with a lovely brown rim. Sweet and plum, maybe a hint of Madeira on the nose. Hints of raisin (in a positive way), perhaps sherry on the swallow. Round, full mouth with great depth. Mature Palmer that is not far from peak and will last a long time. (536 views)
 Tasted by Purple Tooth on 4/14/2024 & rated 97 points: Well....You cant spell Bordeaux better than PAL MER...Not a very French name, but a very classy producer that has made some of the greatest wines ever made. The 1961 is still on my bucket list and I have dreamt about it many a night. Always elegant, snobbish, floral and exotic, yet with that deep night flower, jasmin, twisted into fresh manure and a coffee brew. Ample fruit makes it so cute and yet sexy at the same time. I almost blush as I steal sip after sip, like my first kisses from my lady. I dont think it gets much better than this in quality, so its only more age that's holding this back. drink or HOLD_ (1170 views)
 Tasted by iobtoel on 2/23/2024 & rated 96 points: Blackcurrant nose followed by whiffs of cigar, tobacco. Tiniest hint of flint in the background. Rich but beautifully balanced. Fruit still to the fore, with the tobacco notes supporting velvety smooth tannins. Deliciously long and sweet finish. Very enjoyable! (2206 views)
 Tasted by kr522 on 2/19/2024 & rated 94 points: From magnum. Very enjoyable, but this one seemed a shade overripe….the second time in the past year that I’ve sensed this after many years of loving the balance. It was still a big hit with the table and quickly consumed, but more of a crowd-pleaser/easy to drink wine, than the brilliance I’ve encountered in other bottles (2188 views)
 Tasted by BordeauxBoy on 2/15/2024 & rated 95 points: Still very primary. Tasted blind with 5 other experienced winos and all of us guessed Napa. I had the vintage but all others thought younger. Well cellared. Opened 5 hrs. before tasting. No obvious Bordeaux characteristics at all at this point…not even terroir…just huge fruit. Is this a truly Parkerized wine? If I had some, would not touch it for at least 10 more years. (2076 views)
 Tasted by kevinleeht on 2/6/2024 & rated 96 points: Place was too dark couldn't see colour properly. On the nose elegant with deep dark fruits and crushed violets, truffles, tobacco, i also get lots of soy sauce and dark mushrooms. On the palate also the same with dark savoury fruits that didn't seem faded at all, in fact fruits still felt vibrant and packed. Nothing is out of place and everything in perfect balance. The finish is long and still developing, felt like a baby still despite its almost 20 year age. I would say likely entering its drinking window and feels like not quite at its prime yet. I would never reject a glass of this if someone offered but I also won't be chasing this down at the current price as well. (2386 views)
 Tasted by Dinamarca on 1/21/2024 & rated 97 points: Fantastisk lækker vin. Perfekt moden, med en herlig åben næse. Sorte kirsebær, blommer, læder og sød pibetobak. I munden er vinen lækker cremet og rund med en fløjelsblød tekstur. En stor vin i en stor årgang. (2424 views)
 Tasted by Melli on 1/12/2024 & rated 97 points: Big, beautiful bold wine with long life ahead (1968 views)
 Tasted by martin_e on 1/1/2024 & rated 97 points: Dark ruby. Fully open now (unlike some other 2005s) with a beautiful bouquet of overripe black fruits and smoke. Complex palate: plumb, blackberry, black cherry, and slightly bitter notes of raw cranberry or rowan berry. Long finish, also with element of bitterness that gradually smoothes out with decanting. Integrated, but noticeable tannins, balanced acidy.

It’s a complex noble wine with strong character, standing out from its peers (2050 views)
 Tasted by jmoon on 11/12/2023 & rated 92 points: Luck of the draw with old bottles. Had only one, a dozen left, this was heavy old school block and dense. Not fully open despite hours. Good on day 2 but fell into stewed plum land at the end. Just sharing observations after a chaotic experiment rather than a serious note. (2706 views)
 Tasted by JoeDwine on 10/27/2023 & rated 92 points: At BC with Larry…..75 minute decant
Subtle tea and tar and cassis. still showing very primary but has some lusciousness. Nose is restrained (2652 views)
 Tasted by NickA on 10/19/2023 & rated 93 points: Château Palmer vertical (Herbert Smith Freehills, London): 40 M, 53 CS, 7 PV. Mature nose - truffley, penetrating, enveloping. Then much more primary on the palate, with abundant lush fruit that verged upon the sweeter side, although fortunately the finish was drier and more to my taste. Like the other two bottles of this I've tried, this wine would like some hearty food, but this example seemed a little looser and less majestic than those two brilliant examples. (2718 views)
 Tasted by eschaefer on 10/6/2023 & rated 95 points: I almost feel guilty rating this wine 95 given it’s pedigree, but up against a bond 2013 Pluribus it was not the star tonight. Cedar, black currant, black tea and mocha on the aromas and Similar on the palate. Texture and tannis were on point but finaih was abbreviated. I am hoping it was just flat this night; because I have had this wine before and been astounded. Good thing I have 6 more bottles! Highly recommended. (2682 views)
 Tasted by NickA on 9/24/2023 & rated 95 points: Decanted for about 90 minutes. A dark-fruited deathstar of a wine, sleek and ominously powerful. Tightly packed nose, full of cassis, graphite and game, and also a hint of black olive. Lots of acidity and plenty of red and black fruit on the palate, somehow almost candied in its depth but also bone dry and slightly tannic. The wine's concentration of flavour and noble austerity were a superb foil for roast leg of lamb with gravy and fruit jelly. (2867 views)
 Tasted by kr522 on 9/7/2023 & rated 96 points: A beast of a wine, yet also a beauty. Ripe, layered, and structured with excellent balance. Power and detail (2773 views)
 Tasted by hargy on 8/28/2023 & rated 91 points: lovely wine but the tannins still dominate - this will be wonderful with time (2494 views)
 Tasted by dmacwine on 7/14/2023 & rated 100 points: Drinking perfectly now, the maturity I desire from Bordeaux. Smooth and delicious, red fruit, aromatic, long finish. Best of night out of Scarecrow 2015, Bryant Family 2012, Bond Vecina 2007, Montrose 2009. I've only had one other 2005 reach this level - the 2005 La Mission Haut Brion. (3035 views)
 Tasted by Nontaco on 7/6/2023 & rated 95 points: Avalon with Darius. Decanted 2-3 hrs. Tasty but expected something more delicious and complex. Perhaps just needs time but definitely no wow factor yet. Solid but surprisingly didn’t eclipse a 2000 Lynch Bages that followed this bottle. (2852 views)
 Tasted by D!n@sh on 6/14/2023 & rated 95 points: Smashingly delicious. Light on its feet. Kind of red fruit that I like. The wine had softened up considerably. I would describe more of a Burgundian style of Bordeaux - something I like a lot. (3101 views)
 Tasted by jmoon on 4/28/2023 & rated 94 points: Solid showing. Opened and started sipping, took about an hour to reveal its form. Blocky, deep cassis, some oak, not very complex yet, still a bit coiled. Two hours later and beginning to relax. Long future ahead. I’d speculate that peak is 5-10 years away, 95++ potential. Long decant recommended. (3403 views)
 Tasted by Vicchangus on 4/15/2023 & rated 98 points: Prime drinking window, bursting with secondary notes on the nose, purple fruit, full mid palate with hauntingly long finish. Sublime. (3195 views)
 Tasted by blank blank on 4/15/2023 & rated 91 points: This was very good, but to my palate a little overripe. It is extremely ripe and lush - remarkably so for a BDX, perhaps as ripe as any I've ever had this side of 1982 PLL, to which it bears a resemblance. It shows a lot of Merlot - again, more than any classified growth I can recall other than, well, 1982 PLL, to which, (reiterating) this bears a resemblance. It is just so fruity - almost California-esque - and the texture is pillowy and gentle. But for my palate, the fruit here is a little muddied because of the ripeness - unlike the clarion cassis character of a Cab Sauv dominated blend, this has lots of black cherry and plum - and while it shows a fair bit of evolution and is clearly just reaching its plateau of maturity, it isn't showing the complexity of, say, 1982 PLL, with its exotic aromatics. This is very much like an exceptionally well-made Napa Merlot - like a Forman Merlot or a Ramey Merlot - but its price and pedigree promises something more. (3358 views)
 Tasted by kr522 on 3/28/2023 & rated 97 points: Another gorgeous bottle (3385 views)
 Tasted by Xavier Auerbach on 2/25/2023 & rated 100 points: A private tasting (Buurtcafé De Tros, Amsterdam, NL): A blend of 53% Cabernet-Sauvignon, 40% Merlot and 7% Petit Verdot. Amazing, perfumed nose, perfect proportions on the palate, everything in the right place, incredible richness of ripe mulberry fruit, floral lift and spicy depth, voluptuous and feminine but firm and lively, magical balance and elegance, satiny tannins, real concentration but such a lightness of being, effortless line and length. Huge promise. The new 1961? My guess is that it is, and for me this was a perfect bottle. (5146 views)
 Tasted by Hppr Cellar on 2/25/2023 & rated 98 points: As good as the last bottle! Needs 4 hr decant. (2954 views)
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By Richard Hemming MW
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By Antonio Galloni
Vinous, 2005 Bordeaux: Here and Now (Apr 2021) (4/1/2021)
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By Jane Anson
Decanter, Château Palmer vertical: Every five years from 1990-2015 (6/9/2020)
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By Jancis Robinson, MW
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By Antonio Galloni
Vinous, Cellar Favorite: 2005 Château Palmer (Feb 2016) (2/1/2016)
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By Jancis Robinson, MW
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By Julia Harding, MW
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By John Kapon
Vintage Tastings, Bordeaux Horizontals (5/11/2009)
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By Richard Jennings
RJonWine.com (9/27/2008)
(Château Palmer) Dark red violet color; very tight nose; elegant, ripe cassis, blackberry, with a hint of sage, concentrated and deep, needs several years; long finish 93+ pts.  93 points
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Château Palmer

Producer website - Read more about Chateau Palmer



Château Palmer, whose pedigree architecture is a hallmark of its superb produce, is an undisputed star of the prestigious Margaux appellation. History reports that in the 18th century, its wines (under the name Château de Gascq) were held in very high esteem at the court of Versailles, then later by Louis XV. Its vineyard lies upon the famous gravel hillocks home to the greatest of Médoc wines.
A time-proven blend of grape varieties, especially thorough vineyard management and wine-making strickly designed to respect a superb 'terroir' constantly produce wines of immense expression, unrivalled elegance and charm, exceptionnal aromatic complexity and legendary subtlety

Owner: Société Civile du Château Palmer, formed in 1938 by families of French, English and Dutch origin.
Origin: Charles Palmer, English Major General purchased the estate in 1814. A passionate entrepreneur, Charles Palmer expanded and modernized the estate and gave his name to one of the most beautiful properties in Margaux.

The terroir:
Area: 55 hectares spread over the rises of Cantenac. Most of the plots are located on the plateau of thin gravel from the Güntz period, situated along the water.
Soil: Plateau of thin gravel from the Güntz period
Grape varieties planted: 47 % Merlot, 47 % Cabernet Sauvignon, 6 % Petit Verdot
Average age of the vines: 38 years

The Team:
CEO: Thomas Duroux
Technical Director: Sabrina Pernet
Cellar Master: Olivier Campadieu
Vineyard Manager: Jacques Dupin
Oenologist: Jacques Boissenot

Red Bordeaux Blend

Red Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.

Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.

France

Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)

Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings

2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.com

Bordeaux

Bordeaux Wine Guide

Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)

History of Bordeaux

History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification

"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson

"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson

"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson

"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon Rimmerman

Médoc

Vins du Médoc (Conseil des Vins du Médoc) - Read More about the Medoc

VdB

The eight precisely defined appellations of the whole of the Médoc (from Blanquefort Brook to the north of the Bordeaux built-up area, almost to the Pointe de Grave) may claim the Médoc appellation. But there is also a specific territory in the north of the peninsula which produces exclusively wines with this appellation. In the great majority, the Médocs come from the north of the peninsula. The great individuality of this region is that the number of vines has increased more recently here than elsewhere, apart from a few isolated spots where vines have grown for many years. Today, the size of the small estate has brought about the development of a powerful co-operative movement. Four co-operatives out of five belong to the group called Unimédoc which ensures aging, bottling and marketing a large proportion of their wines.

Margaux

Read more about Margaux and its wines As with a large part of the Bordeaux vineyards, vines first appeared in Margaux during the Gallo-Roman period.
In 1705 a text mentions Château Margaux . But we have to wait for the end of the eighteenth century and the coming of the earliest techniques in aging for the concept of wines of high quality to develop. The confirmation of this was the famous 1855 classification which recognized 21 Crus Classés in the Margaux appellation. One hundred years later, the Viticultural Federation and the Margaux appellation of controlled origin were born. The appellation, which stretches out over five communes, is actually unique in the Médoc in that it is the only one to contain all the range of wines, as rich as they are vast, from First Great Cru Classé to the Fifths, not forgetting its famous Crus Bourgeois and its Crus Artisans.

In Margaux there is a predominance of Garonne gravel on a central plateau of about 4 miles in length and one and a quarter wide. To the east-south-east, it overlooks the low lying land by the estuary. Its east side is marked by gentle, dry valleys and a succession of ridges.The layer of gravel in Margaux was spread out by a former Garonne in the early Quaternary. Rather large in size, it is mingled with shingle of average dimension and represents the finest ensemble of Günz gravel in the Haut-Médoc. It is on this ancient layer on a Tertiary terrace of limestone or clayey marl that the best Médoc crus lie. All the conditions for successful wine are present : a large amount of gravel and pebbles, poor soil which cannot retain water and deep rooted vines.

It is customary to say that Margaux wines are the "most feminine" in the Médoc, thus stressing their delicacy, suppleness and their fruity, elegant aromas. This does not affect their great propensity for aging; just the opposite, for the relatively thin terroir imparts tannins which give them long life. The other characteristic of these wines which combine an elegant vitality, subtlety and consistency, is their diversity and personality. Over and above the flavour which is their "common denominator", they present an exceptional palette of bouquets, fruity flavours which show up differently from one château to another.

Production conditions (Decree dated August 10 1954)
In order to have the right to the Margaux appellation of controlled origin, red wines must:

- come from the commune of Margaux, Cantenac, Soussans, Arsac and Labarde, "excluding the land which by the nature of its soil or because of its situation, is unfit to produce wine of this appellation".
- satisfy precise production conditions: grape-varieties (Cabernet-Sauvignon, Cabernet-Franc, Carmenère, Merlot Noir, Petit Verdot, Cot or Malbec), minimum of sugar (178 grammes - 6.27 oz. - per litre of must) degree (an acquired 10°5) base yield (45 hectolitres per hectare).

Vins de Bordeaux:
Grape Varieties: Cabernet Sauvignon, Malbec, Petit Verdot, Merlot
Soil: Gravel and silt plateau on a layer of limestone or silt on clay
Surface Area: 1,530 ha

 
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