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 Vintage2004 Label 2 of 92 
TypeRed
ProducerDomaine Ponsot (web)
VarietyPinot Noir
DesignationVieilles Vignes
Vineyardn/a
CountryFrance
RegionBurgundy
SubRegionCôte de Nuits
AppellationClos de la Roche Grand Cru

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2015 and 2026 (based on 17 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Domaine Ponsot Clos de la Roche Vieilles Vignes on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 90.4 pts. and median of 92 pts. in 92 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by acyso on 4/6/2024 & rated 70 points: Birthday party (Chicago, IL): Smells like poo, also some 2004 greenness too. Muddy and really not good. Never understood Ponsot. Ostensibly it should be good, but you can't argue with the results? (645 views)
 Tasted by devraj on 1/14/2024 & rated 91 points: Murky ruby-magenta with significant bricking throughout. Funky right after pouring in the glass (Coravin) but then settles down to show earthy aromas of forest-floor & tree-bark, reddish berries, dried florals, Chinese five-spice. Palate still shows sweet-sour red currants, wild strawberries, lots of earthy and floral spices, high acidity on the medium finish. (496 views)
 Tasted by Mag357 on 12/2/2023: Black fruited, limestone inflected spicy notes are followed by a black fruited mouthfeel with great concentration, ending in a long and powerful finish, the tannins are resolved now. Quite powerful CDR made in the traditional style. (567 views)
 Tasted by Peech on 10/1/2023 & rated 92 points: popped and poured. Nose was showing more leather and animal notes. Still got the fruit here but this was more muscular and rustic, not an elegant wine. Later we also got some toasty notes on the nose. (587 views)
 Tasted by mxpbuy on 9/19/2023 & rated 93 points: A very ripe red cherry forward wine with some green stem/veggies and earthiness with sufficient acidity and depth of mouthfeel. The wine was best in its first 2 hours and started to trail off after that with the fruit fading and the acidity rising. Enjoy now as a near PnP. (707 views)
 Tasted by Burgnick on 8/26/2023 & rated 92 points: Nose exhibited flowers, red fruit, cocoa, spice green stems, grilled meat and game. Palate had a strong cocoa undertone that overlaid the red and blue fruit. Drinking very well now. (891 views)
 Tasted by EvoPeteMTL on 5/7/2023 & rated 93 points: Very troubled wine. Definitely over its peak, but the fruit is still present. Beautiful red fruits, a hint of floral notes. Medium length. Nice wine. (1193 views)
 Tasted by Musinus on 4/12/2023 & rated 92 points: Initial Scents of strawberry-cherry jam infused with violets turning more gamey, leathery, rustic and ferrous-blood with time. Ruby-garnet, turbid. Sweet flavors of grilled cherries, roasted olive, five-spice over an earthy, somewhat indistinct base. A dense, robust yet fragrant wine at this point. (1024 views)
 Tasted by oxwombat on 3/31/2023 & rated 91 points: Opened at the All-Star Dinner by Zachy's in HK. P&P and small glass sample.

Enjoyable but not great. No extensive notes taken on this wine - just remember it being a bit weak for a Grand Cru, perhaps because of the vintage. I guess this wine also got a bit lost amidst many other great wines. (1334 views)
 Tasted by curtr on 9/19/2022 & rated 92 points: Let stand in glass for 1.5 hrs. An incredible wine. No signs of fading. Drink now to 2026. (1228 views)
 Tasted by curtr on 4/17/2022 & rated 92 points: Opened up after 30 minutes in the glass. (1862 views)
 Tasted by Peech on 4/1/2022 & rated 93 points: decanted 40 minutes after opening and served 1½ hours after decanting. Very open and fragrant, lots of leather, not too sweet and fruity. Pretty fragrant 2 hours after decanting and got better, showing toasty and woodsy notes. (2092 views)
 Tasted by tomandlu on 6/9/2021 & rated 91 points: Opened about 30 minutes prior to drinking but did not decant. Moderate orange-ruby color. From the first whiff the nose was explosive and rich, with aromas of baking spices, cherries, tobacco, orange peel, and sous bois. The wine was deceptively rich on the palate with beautifully integrated fine tannins and fruit and a finish that lasts for at last 45 seconds. To my palate this was a very fine if not exceptional Burgundy of grace and elegance. (2948 views)
 Tasted by soyhead on 2/19/2021: nose - savory, plum, touch of VA
mouth - savory, rich fruit bouncing all over the palate. rustic rather than regal. Reminds me a bit of the Paolo Bea winemaking style. Crowdpleaser but to me seems like you could get a 6pack of Bea instead. Without a doubt a fine pairing with the pork belly. I also thoroughly enjoyed it with Alexander the Great's seabass. (3381 views)
 Tasted by jjct on 12/25/2020: Rich, noble fruit and excellent structure show the Grand Cru pedigree of this wine. Distracting from this was an aroma of fish tank, which more or less blew off after an hour of air. Finishes a bit muddy. No sign of green meanies. (3126 views)
 Tasted by Hubble Shire Farm on 9/25/2020 & rated 94 points: Upon opening, I noticed some recent seepage which in no way showed through to the capsule. Delicious, luscious wine actually! It is a joy to drink from the moment it was poured and only gets better. Cherries, berries and red fruits galore, nice spice and acidity. Fully mature, and with some evidence of seepage that is not yet damaging, DRINK NOW! (2974 views)
 Tasted by mclanew on 8/25/2020 & rated 92 points: Slow oxed for an hour. Pretty nose of strawberry, raspberry and herbs. The palate is fully mature, showing rich fruit flavors of red and black fruits, earth and truffles. There is no hint of the green character that has marred this vintage. The wine lacks some of the structure and refinement of the best vintages of this and the earthy flavors feel a little too pronounced but overall this is a very good 2004 (2661 views)
 Tasted by Moonie on 6/21/2020 & rated 86 points: High acid and a very poor showing. (2301 views)
 Tasted by Peech on 5/23/2020 & rated 93 points: opened 2 hours prior to serving. Very fragrant, with good fruit and a bit of leather. Drinking well now. (436 views)
 Tasted by Jeongyahn on 5/20/2020 & rated 93 points: Pure and Elegant

Pure Red cherry, like Natural pinot
Oriental Spices
Complex Stemmy (not green taint of 2004 vintage)
There's concentration without the heaviness of Ponsot's young wine.
Very pleasant to drink
A well-made 04 vintage with delicacy and classicity. (2199 views)
 Tasted by Beachfan on 5/12/2020 & rated 90 points: Big improvement for something that tasted like pickle juice young. Pretty masculine wine, a burg for Bordeaux lovers (2142 views)
 Tasted by wlayne on 11/16/2019 & rated 92 points: Similar notes as previous bottle, maybe a touch less fruit on the nose but remains in wonderful balance. Typical Ponsot magic in off year. (2536 views)
 Tasted by dbkitc on 10/6/2019 & rated 93 points: As good an ‘04 as I can remember. Right up there with some of the Leroy wines. Faded ruby color with some orange at the rim. Right now, my favorite part of the wine is the nose: sweet cherry fruit is mixed with smoke and bush herbs. Savory and balanced. The attack is also quite fine with an initial rush of elegant, yet full fruit. What holds this wine back is the clipped and slightly bitter finish that most 04’s display to an even greater degree. Happy with this but not a monument. (93) (2597 views)
 Tasted by dream on 7/31/2019: touch of VA kept this from really firing. (2659 views)
 Tasted by SLab on 5/25/2019 & rated 90 points: Épaulé 6 heures. Nez un peu vert et sucré. En bouche, le vin démontre son âge. Les tannins sont presque fondus mais encore une fois avec Ponsot, je retrouve beaucoup d'acidité. La bouche est dominée par l'acidité et la verdure. Mes quelques expériences avec Ponsot furent 'hit or miss'. Ce soir, c'est presque là mais pour le prix .... 88-90pts. La prochaine bouteille sera mise en carafe ou ouverte 24h d'avance. (2731 views)
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By John Gilman
View From the Cellar, Mar/Apr 2009, Issue #20, The 2004 Red and White Burgundy Vintages
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By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, March/April 2007, IWC Issue #131
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By Allen Meadows
Burghound, 1st Quarter, 2007, Issue #25
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By Richard Jennings
RJonWine.com (11/20/2009)
(Domaine Ponsot Clos de la Roche Vieilles Vignes) Medium cherry red color with pale meniscus; VA, reticent red fruit nose; tight, solid, tart cherry, mineral, tangy, tart red fruit, with nervosity; medium-plus finish 91+ pts.  91 points
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Domaine Ponsot

Producer website

Pinot Noir

Varietal character (Appellation America) | Varietal article (Wikipedia)
Pinot Noir is the Noble red grape of Burgundy, capable of ripening in a cooler climate, which Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot will not reliably do. It is unpredictable and difficult both to grow and to vinify, but results in some of the finest reds in the world. It is believed to have been selected from wild vines two thousand years ago. It is also used in the production of champagne. In fact, more Pinot Noir goes into Champagne than is used in all of the Cote d'Or! It is also grown in Alsace, Jura, Germany, the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Romania, Switzerland, Austria, Croatia, Serbia, Italy, and so forth, with varying degrees of success.


Pinot Noir is one of the world's most prestigious grapes. It is very difficult to grow and thrives well in France, especially in Champagne and Burgundy. Pinot Noir thrives less in hot areas, is picky on soil, and deserves some oak storage.

Pinot Noir, or Blauburgunder / Spätburgunder in German, is a blue grapevine - and, as the German name suggests, the grape comes originally from Burgundy in France.

The grape, which thrives in calcareous soils, is used primarily for the production of red wine, and it is widely regarded as producing some of the best wines in the world. The wine style is often medium-bodied with high fruit acidity and soft tannins. It can be quite peculiar in fragrance and taste, and not least in structure - which may be why it is referred to as "The Grapes Ballerina".
Pinot Noir is also an important ingredient in sparkling wines, not least in champagne since it is fruity, has good acidity and contains relatively little tannins.
The grape is considered quite demanding to grow. The class itself consists of tightly packed grapes, which makes it more sensitive to rot and other diseases.

Pinot Noir changes quite easily and is genetically unstable. It buds and matures early which results in it often being well ripened. Climate is important for this type of grape. It likes best in cool climates - in warm climates the wines can be relaxed and slightly pickled.
In cooler climates, the wine can get a hint of cabbage and wet leaves, while in slightly warmer regions we often find notes of red berries (cherries, strawberries, raspberries, currants), roses and slightly green notes when the wine is young. With age, more complex aromas of forest floor, fungi and meat emerge.

In Germany, Switzerland, Austria and Hungary, it often produces light wines with less character. However, it has produced very good results in California, Oregon and New Zealand.

With its soft tannins and delicate aroma, it is excellent for white fish, chicken and light meat. For the stored wines you can serve small game. Classic duck breast is a matter of course, a Boeuf Burgundy and Pinot Noir are pure happiness.

Pinot Noir loses quality by over-harvesting.
Pinot Noir is prone to diseases, especially rot and mildew. Viruses cause major problems especially in Burgundy.
Pinot Noir are large round grapes with thin skins. Relatively high in alcohol content. Medium rich tannins and good with acid.
As a young person, Pinot Noir has a distinctly fruity character such as raspberries, cherries and strawberries.
A mature Pinot Noir, the taste is different. Cherry goes into plum and prune flavors. It smells of rotten leaves, coffee, moist forest floor and animal wine. This must be experienced.
In warm climates you find boiled plum, some rustic, little acid.
If the grapes are over-grown, the wine will be thin, with little color and flavor.

Vieilles Vignes

Old Vine/Vieilles Vignes (Wikipedia)

France

Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)

Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings

2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.com

Burgundy

Les vins de Bourgogne (Bureau interprofessionnel des vins de Bourgogne) (and in English)

Burgundy - The province of eastern France, famous for its red wines produced from Pinot Noir and its whites produced from Chardonnay. (Small of amounts of Gamay and Aligoté are still grown, although these have to be labeled differently.) The most famous part of the region is known as the Cote d'Or (the Golden Slope). It is divided into the Cote de Beaune, south of the town of Beaune (famous principally for its whites), and the Cote de Nuits, North of Beaune (home of the most famous reds). In addition, the Cote Chalonnaise and the Maconnais are important wine growing regions, although historically a clear level (or more) below the Cote d'Or. Also included by some are the regions of Chablis and Auxerrois, farther north.

Burgundy Report | Les Grands Jours de Bourgogne - na stejné téma od Heleny Baker

# 2013 Vintage Notes:
* "2013 is a vintage that 20 years ago would have been a disaster." - Will Lyons
* "low yields and highly variable reds, much better whites." - Bill Nanson
* "Virtually all wines were chaptalised, with a bit of sugar added before fermentation to increase the final alcohol level." - Jancis Robinson

# 2014 Vintage Notes:
"We have not had such splendid harvest weather for many years. This will ensure high quality (fragrant, classy and succulent are words already being used) across the board, up and down the hierarchy and well as consistently from south to north geographically apart from those vineyards ravaged by the hail at the end of June." - Clive Coates

# 2015 Vintage Notes:
"Low yields and warm weather allowed for ample ripeness, small berries and an early harvest. Quality is looking extremely fine, with some people whispering comparisons with the outstanding 2005 vintage. Acid levels in individual wines may be crucial." - Jancis Robinson

# 2017 Vintage Notes:
"Chablis suffered greatly from frost in 2017, resulting in very reduced volumes. As ever, the irony seems to be that what remains is very good quality, as it is in the Côte d’Or. Cooler nights across the region have resulted in higher-than-usual acidity, with good conditions throughout the harvest season allowing for ripe, healthy fruit." - Jancis Robinson

# 2018 Vintage Notes:
"The most successful region for red Burgundy in 2018 was the Côte de Beaune. The weather was ideal in this area, with just enough sunlight and rain to produce perfectly balanced wines naturally." - Vinfolio

Côte de Nuits

on weinlagen.info

Clos de la Roche Grand Cru

Located in the heart of Morey-St.-Denis, the Clos de la Roche vineyard is known to produce wines of great length and concentration while having a great minerality and pure fruit aromas.
on weinlagen-info.de

 
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