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 Vintage2004 Label 1 of 60 
TypeRed
ProducerTalley Vineyards (web)
VarietyPinot Noir
Designationn/a
VineyardRincon Vineyard
CountryUSA
RegionCalifornia
SubRegionCentral Coast
AppellationArroyo Grande Valley

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2008 and 2016 (based on 8 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Talley Pinot Noir Rincon Vineyard on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 91.7 pts. and median of 92 pts. in 26 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by HandmadeHomemade on 5/27/2020: Not showing well at all. Popped and poured from the bottle, consumed over 4 hours. Sadly, I was stuck with a rotting vegetable funk, super reductive, no fruit or any other typical pinot flavors. Bummer, I heard great things about this bottling- chalking this off to bottle variance. (436 views)
 Tasted by Neecies on 4/30/2019: Served alongside Talley's more expensive flagship pinot, the Rosemary's. Surprisingly, this is going to be the longer-lived wine, there's actually some youthfulness in the fruit and more vivid acidity. Where I'd call it on the former at 2020, I'd happily leave these to 2023 or more. (559 views)
 Tasted by chcook on 10/16/2018: this is still going strong. (525 views)
 Tasted by Vinnut on 3/1/2016 & rated 93 points: Subsequent notes on this wine. Medium garnet in color with slight clearing at the edges. Forward & attractive nose of ripe fruits aromas of red cherries, blueberries & plums with overtones of floral notes of violets & spices, mocha, earthy/dusty, cherry-cola, truffles, minerals, smoky, vanilla and a slight hint of sous-bois in the background. Medium bodied with a very good concentration of well balanced & smooth textured, ripe fruit flavors of tart cherries, sweet blueberries & red plums, with earthy, mushrooms, Asian spices, mocha, minerals and just a touch of vanilla. Smooth lingering finish. Definitely at its peak of development but even at 12 years of age, it may hold for a few more years if cellared properly. (1458 views)
 Tasted by chcook on 9/8/2014: PNP. Cork perfect. Medium garnet w bricking edges. Nose w cola five spice and a whiff of etoh. Swishing shows tannin and acid structure almost tingly in the mouth. Sipping this shows med weight and length with dark fruit and great polish and mouthfeel. Really superb. (2065 views)
 Tasted by WineDoctors on 8/20/2014 & rated 92 points: garnet, color to rim, medium acid, l-medium body, long finish, silky tannins, still well balanced, fruit is still structured. a delight (1839 views)
 Tasted by Vinnut on 10/25/2013 & rated 92 points: Medium garnet in color with slight clearing at the edges. Forward & attractive nose redolent of ripe red fruits aromas of cherries, berries & plums with lovely secondary floral notes of roses & sweet freesia, cocoa, earthy, white truffles, some spices and a hint of vanilla in the background. Medium bodied with a very good concentration of well balanced & developed, velvety smooth ripe red fruit flavors of tart cherries, sweet berries & plums, with tertiary notes of earthy, mushrooms, Asian spices and just a touch of vanilla. Silky smooth lingering finish. Definitely at its peak of development and may hold for a few more years if cellared properly. (2304 views)
 Tasted by kanjimoti on 11/25/2012 & rated 82 points: The robe shows just a hint of oxidation at the edge, perhaps a sign this is mature. On the contrary, the nose blasts candied fruit and little else. There's no sign of earth or minerality, nor anything tertiary here. If you're into fruit bombs drink up. Open two hours this had not evolved at all, still very fruit forward and one dimensional. There's great balance here between fruit and alcohol, he says sarcastically. This would not do on Thanksgiving day for the guests. Out came the 05 Lequin-Colin Chassagne vieilles vignes rouge which was excellent, and down the drain went the second half of the Talley. (2755 views)
 Tasted by norsktorsk on 5/20/2012 & rated 92 points: Very nice and holding up well. (2188 views)
 Tasted by WineShark on 11/13/2011 & rated 92 points: Was not expecting this wine to this good, and now I'm sorry I only purchased one bottle. Bursting cherry flavor with very nice acidity. Will not disappoint. (2002 views)
 Tasted by norsktorsk on 8/8/2011 & rated 89 points: This wine had a nice color with a full mid palate however there was a sense of plum which I did not find appealing. (1885 views)
 Tasted by jbaron on 3/12/2011 & rated 93 points: Looking back at my notes for this wine, it just goes to show you that once a 93, always a 93. It's been 4 years since bottle #1, and this one is still very much alive, with all of the pieces and not enough age. A nice, briary nose woth dark red pitted (and other) fruit, A large, round mouth that's just coming round into middle age. The length seems short for the rest of the package (drink now rather than later?) but is nively defined with more abstract notes than concrete ones. Perhaps the abstract length counts as a real length? (I'm not kidding on this one...)

I'd say wait until 2013 for the rest of the bottles. See what's up. (1525 views)
 Tasted by jbaron on 2/12/2011 & rated 93 points: Still one of my favorite Rincon pinots. This one was a tiny bit muddy, but quite tasty and quite in the moment. I think - personally - that it'd benefit from another few years, at which point it would be something truly ethereal.

Save the last bottles until 2014. (1249 views)
 Tasted by jbaron on 8/27/2010 & rated 92 points: Tangy - a bit on the tangy side of tangy. Good mouth, a tiny bit tangy, but otherwise well balanaced. Length is good, nose is almost good. Seems to have lost a bt of its outright extravagence - not clear whether or not that's a good outcome. (1329 views)
 Tasted by LikeABC on 6/17/2010 & rated 93 points: shared this with others after the Talley tasting at old doc's (the 07 Stone Corral was my favorite red or white by far).

no formal notes taken at the time, but my memory says: cork was absolutely perfect. Deep red color, slightly cloudy, and no bricking. Nose took about 10 minutes to emerge. Hypnotic nose of red fruit, brambly spice and wild flowers. This wine manages to ballance the big fruit with enough acidity to keep it from becoming a fruit bomb (it was a ripe vintage, but Rincon has enough natural acidity... and the only use about 1/3rd new oak).

Just starting to hit it's peak right now, and will probably stay there for a few years. Excellent! (1625 views)
 Tasted by jbaron on 12/31/2009 & rated 93 points: Suave, sexy, full in the mouth. Brambly Rincon nose, still-intense mouth of many different red berries. The length (the least strong facet) is a bit strident and a bit short compared to the rest of the wine. Still an outstanding bottle. (1540 views)
 Tasted by Jack on 12/4/2009 & rated 92 points: Excellent again tonight. These are drinking well now but no hurry. (1636 views)
 Tasted by jbaron on 10/2/2009 & rated 93 points: Very nice deep, dark nose that is still amazingly sharp. Sauve in the mouth, with ripe red/black cherries and a good amount of dark grass. Persistent length of... of... of very nice wine. Still quite rich, but shows a bright future - if it lasts that long. (1592 views)
 Tasted by jbaron on 8/31/2009 & rated 93 points: Here we are in 2009, and this wine has changed considerably since the first bottle two years ago. Be warned - it still takes 30 minutes to open and come to be one with itself - but the wine has changed from "heavy to heavy/light" to moderate, with a spectacular mouth feel. The nose is the lightest part - and I'd say bordering on marginal - but the mouth is silky and full without being overbearing, and the length is on it's way to etheral. Still primarily fruity, with some briarpatch as appeared in last night's Rosemary's, but this one is the complete package now, with lots of stuffing, and should stay as such for quite some time. (1617 views)
 Tasted by Jack on 8/1/2009 & rated 93 points: Opened two bottles and they were good from the start. If I remember correctly this had a pretty hard edge when it was released but it is now silky smooth and wonderful. (1704 views)
 Tasted by Jack on 5/17/2008 & rated 92 points: Really nice rich and very ripe fruit. Needs a little time to meld together and should improve with some bottle age. The 03 Dehl. was better tonight but not by much. (1896 views)
 Tasted by fisk15 on 1/5/2008 & rated 92 points: Opened with a great rose petal nose with earth and red fruits. Big pinot, for sure but more balanced than many 04 pinots. Very nice. (2061 views)
 Tasted by jbaron on 11/25/2007 & rated 92 points: Takes about 45 minutes to open up, and the wine goes from viscous and indeterminate and heavy to something that's lighter and cleaner and more pronounced in what it has to say. The nose is light and airy and light-red colored and the length is long and very well defined - earth and mushrooms and light red fruit. Very nice. The mouth is full and a bit angular, with intense red fruit (canned cherries and cranberries, mainly) with some pepper and some dirt. A nice effort.

Try next in 2009. (1958 views)
 Tasted by silton on 11/18/2007 & rated 90 points: Young and delicious. An hour+ of air was required before this opened up; at first, it tasted overwrought and compacted, but it gained its footing soon enough. Nice combination of ripe, rich fruit framed by acids and manageable tannin. An impulsive opening that performed well, but should continue to improve. (2043 views)
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By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, January/February 2007, IWC Issue #130
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Burghound, 3rd Quarter, 2006, Issue #23
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Pinot Noir

Varietal character (Appellation America) | Varietal article (Wikipedia)
Pinot Noir is the Noble red grape of Burgundy, capable of ripening in a cooler climate, which Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot will not reliably do. It is unpredictable and difficult both to grow and to vinify, but results in some of the finest reds in the world. It is believed to have been selected from wild vines two thousand years ago. It is also used in the production of champagne. In fact, more Pinot Noir goes into Champagne than is used in all of the Cote d'Or! It is also grown in Alsace, Jura, Germany, the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Romania, Switzerland, Austria, Croatia, Serbia, Italy, and so forth, with varying degrees of success.


Pinot Noir is one of the world's most prestigious grapes. It is very difficult to grow and thrives well in France, especially in Champagne and Burgundy. Pinot Noir thrives less in hot areas, is picky on soil, and deserves some oak storage.

Pinot Noir, or Blauburgunder / Spätburgunder in German, is a blue grapevine - and, as the German name suggests, the grape comes originally from Burgundy in France.

The grape, which thrives in calcareous soils, is used primarily for the production of red wine, and it is widely regarded as producing some of the best wines in the world. The wine style is often medium-bodied with high fruit acidity and soft tannins. It can be quite peculiar in fragrance and taste, and not least in structure - which may be why it is referred to as "The Grapes Ballerina".
Pinot Noir is also an important ingredient in sparkling wines, not least in champagne since it is fruity, has good acidity and contains relatively little tannins.
The grape is considered quite demanding to grow. The class itself consists of tightly packed grapes, which makes it more sensitive to rot and other diseases.

Pinot Noir changes quite easily and is genetically unstable. It buds and matures early which results in it often being well ripened. Climate is important for this type of grape. It likes best in cool climates - in warm climates the wines can be relaxed and slightly pickled.
In cooler climates, the wine can get a hint of cabbage and wet leaves, while in slightly warmer regions we often find notes of red berries (cherries, strawberries, raspberries, currants), roses and slightly green notes when the wine is young. With age, more complex aromas of forest floor, fungi and meat emerge.

In Germany, Switzerland, Austria and Hungary, it often produces light wines with less character. However, it has produced very good results in California, Oregon and New Zealand.

With its soft tannins and delicate aroma, it is excellent for white fish, chicken and light meat. For the stored wines you can serve small game. Classic duck breast is a matter of course, a Boeuf Burgundy and Pinot Noir are pure happiness.

Pinot Noir loses quality by over-harvesting.
Pinot Noir is prone to diseases, especially rot and mildew. Viruses cause major problems especially in Burgundy.
Pinot Noir are large round grapes with thin skins. Relatively high in alcohol content. Medium rich tannins and good with acid.
As a young person, Pinot Noir has a distinctly fruity character such as raspberries, cherries and strawberries.
A mature Pinot Noir, the taste is different. Cherry goes into plum and prune flavors. It smells of rotten leaves, coffee, moist forest floor and animal wine. This must be experienced.
In warm climates you find boiled plum, some rustic, little acid.
If the grapes are over-grown, the wine will be thin, with little color and flavor.

USA

American wine has been produced since the 1500s, with the first widespread production beginning in New Mexico in 1628. Today, wine production is undertaken in all fifty states, with California producing 84% of all U.S. wine. The continent of North America is home to several native species of grape, including Vitis labrusca, Vitis riparia, Vitis rotundifolia, and Vitis vulpina, but the wine-making industry is based almost entirely on the cultivation of the European Vitis vinifera, which was introduced by European settlers. With more than 1,100,000 acres (4,500 km2) under vine, the United States is the fourth-largest wine producing country in the world, after Italy, Spain, and France.

California

2021 vintage: "Unlike almost all other areas of the state, the Russian River Valley had higher than normal crops in 2021, which has made for a wine of greater generosity and fruit forwardness than some of its stablemates." - Morgan Twain-Peterson

Central Coast

http://www.ccwinegrowers.org/links.html

http://www.discovercaliforniawines.com/regional-wine-organizations/

http://beveragetradenetwork.com/en/btn-academy/list-of-winegrowers-association-in-central-coast-california-274.htm

Central Coast AVA Wikipedia

Arroyo Grande Valley

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