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| Community Tasting Notes (average 90.3 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 74 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by clinet12 on 12/28/2023 & rated 86 points: Disappointed with this wine, hollow mid pallet, short on the finish, some tannins, smell of cassis, spices, black fruit, does it need more time? At 15 years, rim does not show any sign of aging. Will open a second bottle of three in 5 years. , (927 views) | | | Tasted by culater on 8/16/2023 & rated 88 points: Decant and wait 3h. 17-19C. With elk
Dry, tart. Opened up a bit with air, but yet another bottle of this case that does not impress. (1390 views) | | | Tasted by culater on 12/28/2022 & rated 93 points: 2h decant. Pre dinner in Bdx glas @ 18C. Good spot and balance. Complexity and quite long. Dark, rust, blood. Also green pepper, dark fruits. Brb after dinner….
Gets better with meat and air. Mature notes of meat, blood, dark berries. Not so much leather nor stable. Still Very Bdx left bank. (2269 views) | | | Tasted by jkolb on 8/31/2022: One of the first bottles I purchased for aging, in 2009.
1hr decant, which was too short. Decent, solid bdx but was hoping for something more, given the 13 years in the cellar. Acidity was somewhat below expectation.
Better on day 2. (2505 views) | | | Tasted by culater on 8/20/2022 & rated 92 points: Opened a bottle tested a glas by Coravin 15th of April. Much better now, calm, balanced and a nice wine. No decant. Riedel Cab glas, at 18-20C.
Acidity on the lower side, good fruit and ok dry tannins. Hard to tell if it is to develop or fade.
Before dinner with cheese and smoked Elk heart - Like the typical bdx that is on the more mature side. Cassis, dark chocolate, dark berries, pencil lead.
With grilled meat it is even better, or more air might have helped.
I think it is entering its drink window, but it will be shorter and still good. I would decant for 3h, and drink from now to 2027.
Surprised how it is becomming a wine I will look forward to! (2497 views) | | | Tasted by culater on 4/15/2022 & rated 88 points: Better with air, but this case has a lot of bottle variation… (2807 views) | | | Tasted by MatthewTester on 12/28/2021 & rated 90 points: Decanted an hour before and with very little sediment. This is really well made claret, dark and still a little tannic with many years of life ahead of it. As it ages it might gain more complexity. At the moment it is a solid and pleasant wine but lacking in nuances and not yet a blockbuster to write up in a diary. Given its price and reviews I was expecting a little more - and that may yet come. Next bottle is at least a year away. (3073 views) | | | Tasted by Jozefs on 12/22/2021 & rated 92 points: Starting its drinking windows, but still early days. (2547 views) | | | Tasted by SMagowan on 2/10/2021 & rated 94 points: I felt this was in a good place. Balance is fine indeed among tannins, dark fruit (muted plum, dried cherry and cranberry) and wet leaves. Long pleasant finish on the palate with a fine aftertaste of dark chocolate powder. A mouthful of deliciousness. (4075 views) | | | Tasted by drrobvino on 8/5/2020 & rated 89 points: Bottle #1 of 4. No formal TN.
Seemed like a typical Bordeaux. Maybe slightly heavy-handed, lots of anise and black berry fruits.
Drink now through 2028. (4410 views) | | | Tasted by Song103 on 7/14/2020: Classic proportioned. Intense purple, medium body, dark blue fruit, aromas of graphite and eucalyptus, medium+ acidity, very firm tannin, medium- finish. It is at a numb stage and a bad time to open one. The fruit has subsided, hard tannin, and little development secondary aromas and flavours. Please hold on for a few more years. At this moment 87, potential 91-92. (3960 views) | | | Tasted by DoctorNick on 7/12/2020 & rated 90 points: Beautifully aged strawberry nose. Graphite, light on the fruit. Big structure. Surprisingly tannic for 12 years. Decant before drinking, have with food. (3493 views) | | | Tasted by vide on 5/30/2020 & rated 91 points: After 1-2 hours in the decanter = impenetrable dark plum colour but lovely perfumed nose of dark fruit, chocolate and tobacco; in tasting, a good front palate with elegant acidity and longueur, but drying and thinning out towards the end. No real depth or complexity. Perhaps that will come later.
2-3 hours= certainly more weight to the fruit (so possibly 92?), but there is still that drying quality around the palate. I don't think will improve much beyond now.
This is a good wine, thoughtfully made, by people who know what they are doing (and I have 2005, 2009 and more in my cellar), but they are struggling against what seems an indifferent vintage. And I say that with regret, because I own a large number of Medoc 2008s. (3921 views) | | | Tasted by Litt12 on 3/13/2020 & rated 93 points: Thought this could be a typical 08 shutdown zone type of wine on first pop but oh boy this is opening up beautifully. 12 years on and delicioso! This producer can be hard as nails but there is beauty underneath, this gives a glimpse. (3282 views) | | | Tasted by Zweder on 2/22/2020 flawed bottle: An easy afternoon with close friends (@ My place): Day one a lot of vanilla and green herbs, vanilla, dark and red berries, firm tannin, but overall a bit special and not really expressive. Day two it became more clear. The wine was slightly corked; so no score. (2993 views) | | | Tasted by SvenWine on 1/28/2020 & rated 80 points: The fruit is gone. Overly oaky on palate. Defective? (2733 views) | | | Tasted by mike410 on 11/20/2019 & rated 93 points: Full bodied and medium to long finish. Lots of alcohol on the nose but some good fruit there and well balanced. This wine needs another 3-5 years. (3223 views) | | | Tasted by O'Meara on 11/3/2019: This is just beginning to come around from a long period where it was too tight to consume without a whole day plus in a decanter. I drank this alongside a 2006 St Pierre and a 2006 Langoa. The Langoa was the most open, followed by the 06 Pierre and then the 08. It seems like the 08 will be more aromatic and red fruited than the 2006s, which have more intense fruit. I’m going to leave the rest of the 08 case alone for a few more years. (3022 views) | | | Tasted by ChristP on 9/27/2019 & rated 94 points: After breathing in the decanter for around 1 hour, the 2008 is very aromatic from the start with generous black fruits that are matched on the palate. The color is an intense dark red. It's quite full bodied, deliciously smooth and classy, and the finish is very long. It is now in its drinking prime. St. Pierre is a very small but high quality Chateau, and the QPR is outstanding. Right now it has everything that I would want in a wine from St. Julien, and it should remain enjoyable for many years to come. (2836 views) | | | Tasted by Escher Cellars on 6/22/2019 & rated 92 points: Really a delicious wine. Firm with tannins yet throwing no sediment. Dark cherry with mild wood floor. Enjoy, cheers. (3220 views) | | | Tasted by UFGators on 12/13/2018 & rated 92 points: This is a good but not spectacular Bordeaux. This alongside the 2008 Gloria have been the only two 2008 I have liked so far. This one has more tanins and structure than the Gloria and needs a lot of coaxing to open it up. When it opened it showed a moderate amount of fruit, still very shy. I can’t tell if this is the vintage or the quality of the wine. This wine is also shy on the nose but very much Bordeaux. For 70 a bottle not a bad wine to have when you don’t feel like raiding your stash. It’s quality and tasty but I was far from being blown away. This should get better with age but will never be more that a 92-93 wine. (4147 views) | | | Tasted by Escher Cellars on 10/4/2018 & rated 91 points: Dry and tannic yet approachable and smooth, a very nice balance at 10 years bottled. Might suggest 1-2 more years but drink now. Good with/without food. Enjoy, cheers. (3975 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 9/17/2018 & rated 92 points: It is going to take a bit more time for the remainder of the oak to integrate, but the wine has volume, depth of flavor and soft, plush, polished tannins. Full-bodied, round and loaded with tobacco stained, dark red, fresh, sweet, fruits, another half a decade will get this where it needs to be. (4923 views) | | | Tasted by Purple Tooth on 4/15/2018 & rated 91 points: The nose is fantastic, full of roast and scorch with earth and cocoa, but the wine under it is still tight. Its full of under-ripe red fruit and toast. There are good amounts of coffee under development and this wine has a long way to go before it becomes mature and fills its shoes. This will be great in about 5 years....HOLD (5255 views) | | | Tasted by SvenWine on 2/10/2018 & rated 91 points: Opened up after a few hours in decanter.
Nose of dark berries, leather, tobacco and some black pepper.
Flavors of red currant, sour cherries and dark berries. Small after taste of pencil shave.
Balanced. Gentle approach. Pleasant.
Serving well, but will be exciting to follow the development coming years. (4747 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
| By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (3/2/2018)
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(Ch St-Pierre St-Julien Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By John Gilman
View From the Cellar, Jul/Aug 2011, Issue #34, Re-Visiting the 2008 Bordeaux Vintage: Is It Superior to Both 2009 and 2010?
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View From the Cellar, Jan/Feb 2011, Issue #31, Snapshot of the 2008 Bordeaux Vintage- Really a Lovely and Classically Proportioned Year
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RJonWine.com (1/21/2011)
(Château Saint-Pierre) Very dark red violet color; oak, espresso, black fruit nose; Napa Cab-like espresso, oak, black fruit palate with low acidity; medium finish 87+ pts. (82% Cabernet Sauvignon, 18% Merlot) 87 points |
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| Château Saint-Pierre Producer website
Learn about Chateau Saint Pierre St. JulienRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanMédoc Vins du Médoc (Conseil des Vins du Médoc) - Read More about the Medoc
VdB
The eight precisely defined appellations of the whole of the Médoc (from Blanquefort Brook to the north of the Bordeaux built-up area, almost to the Pointe de Grave) may claim the Médoc appellation. But there is also a specific territory in the north of the peninsula which produces exclusively wines with this appellation. In the great majority, the Médocs come from the north of the peninsula. The great individuality of this region is that the number of vines has increased more recently here than elsewhere, apart from a few isolated spots where vines have grown for many years. Today, the size of the small estate has brought about the development of a powerful co-operative movement. Four co-operatives out of five belong to the group called Unimédoc which ensures aging, bottling and marketing a large proportion of their wines.St. Julien VdB
Read more detailed information on St. Julien and its wines The seventeenth century pioneers Traces are to be found of a Saint-Julien de Rintrac, perhaps Saint-Julien's earliest name, as from the thirteenth century. But we have to wait until the seventeenth century pioneers, urban and rural aristocrats, discover the exceptional merits of these terroirs.
Traces of this system still exist today in the structure of estates within the appellation: by the side of the two villages of Beychevelle and Saint-Julien, the large estates are heavily preponderant, representing more than four fifths of the total surface of vineyards.
The terrain is practically identical over all the commune. Only the proximity of the estuary, sometimes close, sometimes further away, can cause slight variations in climate. In fact, Saint-Julien-Beychevelle's layer of gravel takes the form of a huge rectangle over 3 miles long and 2 miles wide. And the alluvial deposits are particularly well fragmented into ridges of Garonne gravel of the early Quaternary. Accordingly, the vines are safeguarded from stagnant water.
The wines from the Saint-Julien appellation may be recognized by their unparalleled bouquet, particularly harmonious and mild. They have a fine deep colour and combine the finesse of their aromas and a solid constitution. They have body, are very rich in flavour and have a delicious and delicate bouquet.
Production conditions (Decree dated November 14, 1936)
In order to have the right to the Saint-Julien appellation of controlled origin, red wines must:
- come from the commune of Saint-Julien and from precisely defined parcels in the communes of Cussac, and Saint-Laurent, "excluding the parcels situated on recent alluvium and sand on impermeable subsoils",
- satisfy precise production conditions: grape-varieties (Cabernet-Sauvignon, Cabernet-Franc, Carmenère, Merlot Noir, Petit Verdot, Cot or Malbec), minimum of sugar (178 grammes - 6.27 oz. - per litre of must) degree (an acquired 10°5) base yield (45 hectolitres per hectare). |
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