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| Community Tasting Notes (average 87.7 pts. and median of 88 pts. in 47 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by AlfrdGrz on 3/10/2023 & rated 92 points: Took me everywhere.
Didnt decanted
First tar flavor, then cherry and finally black berry; balance with a nice dark res color and tasteless acidity. (521 views) | | | Tasted by Kevin Mak on 6/7/2022 & rated 89 points: Medium Ruby
Medium Acidity
Medium (+) Tannin
Medium Alcohol
Medium (+) Bodied
Medium (+) Finish
Medium Intensity
- Red Plum, Blueberry, Blackberry, Black Plum, Smoke, Tobacco, Liquorice
A little subtle at first but the fruits began to show after some airing in the glass. Very typical Bordeaux style, tannin is smooth after 14 years in the bottle but still have some grip, nothing stands out but still a very balanced and enjoyable wine. Drink now. (853 views) | | | Tasted by wonnerschein on 2/5/2022 & rated 88 points: Classic Bordeaux, may if a bit thin by now. Will not improve over time. Enjoy it now or in the next to three years. Good value for money though. (951 views) | | | Tasted by msauer on 6/24/2021 & rated 88 points: Kellerkühl
nicht groß,aber bemerkenswert. Trinkig (1247 views) | | | Tasted by msauer on 4/8/2021 & rated 89 points: Robe foncée, profonde; bien en chair
un digne représentant du Médoc. Un 5e vraiment, malgré le petit millésime (1331 views) | | | Tasted by msauer on 1/17/2021 & rated 88 points: toujours très gouleyant (1030 views) | | | Tasted by msauer on 11/6/2020 & rated 87 points: ok
hatte längst nicht die Klasse, das Volumen des 2001 er gestern
Vermutlich mehr Merlot. Tendenziell international (898 views) | | | Tasted by mike410 on 12/23/2018 & rated 85 points: In my last notes from 2 years ago I wrote "Seems from my last notes this wine has begun to rapidly lose it's tannins and fruit. This bottle could be off as a 2008 should not be losing it's character so fast".
From my latest tastings this wine has really deteriorated. Never have a seen a Cru Classe fade so fast. Chances of having two bad bottles is rather slim. Whatever the case this wine needs to be drunk now. No use in holding on to it. (1725 views) | | | Tasted by delaureaat on 8/13/2018 & rated 88 points: Mooie uitgesproken smaken van rijpe kersen en bosbessen. Fijne textuur en fijne tannines. Weinig zuurtegehalte. Ik miste wel wat complexiteit. Na 3 uur nog zachtere smaak waarbij het fruit nog intenser naar boven kwam. Ik lees hier dat velen de Grand Cru Classificatie voor deze wijn in twijfel trekken - maar voor 20 à 25 euro heb je mijn inziens een mooie prijs-kwaliteitsverhouding. De wijn is voor mij beduidend beter dan goedkopere (geproefde) Médocwijnen. (1750 views) | | | Tasted by mike410 on 2/4/2017 & rated 88 points: Seems from my last notes this wine has begun to rapidly lose it's tannins and fruit. This bottle could be off as a 2008 should not be losing it's character so fast. (3175 views) | | | Tasted by Piotr K on 1/29/2017 & rated 89 points: Very good Bordeaux. Not overwhelming, but subtle and satisfying. Dark red color, some cherry in the nose. Red fruit, hints of vanilla in mouth, medium finish. (2968 views) | | | Tasted by tsde123 on 5/21/2016 & rated 88 points: ordered at dinner while in cancun. earthy nose with a mushroom scent. it opened up nicely after about 90 minutes and the black fruits became more apparent. tannins are still there and at the price point listed here it is a good value to try a grand cru. (4019 views) | | | Tasted by Xavier Auerbach on 12/5/2015 & rated 88 points: A blend of 55% Cabernet-Sauvignon and 45% Merlot. Attractive, open nose, with notes of red berries, blackcurrants, earth and jasmin, supported by hints of wood and pepper; supple and harmonious palate, medium weight, light structure of low acidity and gentle tannins, light flavours, slightly lactic, hint of vanilla; adequate finish. An easy and pleasant wine with some style, nice enough and drinking well after seven years, but hardly what you expect from a Grand Cru Classé. The estate claims that this wine will age until 2025, but I wouldn't bet on it. (4094 views) | | | Tasted by james05500 on 9/23/2015 & rated 87 points: Very good and tasty, even when drunk solo. Well developed, medium tannins, fruity with the acidity hidden "in the background" but that's fine. Very good value! (3643 views) | | | Tasted by PeterVlam on 8/28/2015 & rated 85 points: Kruidigheid, donkere kers, vanille, drop. In het begin ook wat zuivel.
In de smaak: kersen komen terug.stevig vanille (2820 views) | | | Tasted by NineteenEightyTwo on 9/19/2014 & rated 89 points: Meaty nose of smoked beef jerky, accented by black fruit and limestone aromas. The palate is spicy, with a woody note of hickory. Tannins on this are still quite tight-knit. I'd expect another 5-7 years in the cellar to provide opportunity for further improvement. (3828 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 5/7/2014 & rated 85 points: Crisp red berries, tobacco and coffee bean on the nose, with a light, easy drinking crunchy cassis and cranberry finish. A few more years could add depth to the wine. (3976 views) | | | Tasted by chatters on 5/1/2014: With Maja (Orange Restaurant, Rottopongi, Tokyo): Blackcurrant, cream, toast, barnyard, bramble, mushrooms. On the palate the wine is savoury with slight savoury blackcurrant fruit, mint and touches of cream coarse tannin and medium length. The palate is quite simple and a touch austere compared with the nose, rather disappointingly. Meh. (3162 views) | | | Tasted by mike410 on 1/3/2014 & rated 91 points: Very nice with with lots of potential. The older the 2008's get the better they seem to be getting. Very nicely balanced with vanilla and cassis taste. Medium to long finish. (3281 views) | | | Tasted by Arthur4wine on 11/17/2013 & rated 86 points: This wine lacks balance, the acid overpowers the tannins and there is a strong taste of alcohol. It opened up after awhile. Still this wine has a long way to be the Grand Cru it must have once been. (3371 views) | | | Tasted by Arthur4wine on 4/12/2013 & rated 89 points: For the price this was an excellent wine. (3184 views) | | | Tasted by OW_SOSPEL on 11/18/2012 & rated 89 points: Violacé, presque noir. Très extrait. Mobile.
Un nez puissant de fruits noirs (myrtilles dominantes, cassis et mûres) sur un fond de boisé discret. Légers relents herbeux. Le nez laisse présager un fruit bien mur et doux.
Attaque douce et enveloppante qui laisse apparaître un fruit noir bien mur (myrtilles, cassis) et un fond de pruneau. Myrtille très présente en milieu de bouche. Fruit laissant apparaître un bois fin.
Très belle extraction mais léger manque de matière. Confirmation du beau millésime 2008 en Haut-Médoc. A conserver au delà de 10 ans pour juger de l'évolution. (1043 views) | | | Tasted by Arthur4wine on 1/22/2012 & rated 88 points: Not bad for the price. (3900 views) | | | Tasted by Arthur4wine on 1/8/2012 & rated 85 points: This is an inexpensive fifth growth. Not a great wine but not a bad wine either. It has good nose, but a bit of a sour finish. I served it with big juicy hamburgers fresh off the gill and it worked very well. I think the wine is a good value, but it is not a sipping wine, nor is it in the same league as other Grand Crus. Still for the price it is a good value. (3761 views) | | | Tasted by swayzeeee on 8/27/2011 & rated 84 points: Dark red to violet. Not much on the nose. Tart cherry and red plum. A bit thin in the mouth. Not an unappealing wine but lacking a bit of structure and backbone. Peaked after about an hour in the decanter. Drink now. (3889 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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View From the Cellar, Jul/Aug 2011, Issue #34, Re-Visiting the 2008 Bordeaux Vintage: Is It Superior to Both 2009 and 2010?
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View From the Cellar, Jan/Feb 2011, Issue #31, Snapshot of the 2008 Bordeaux Vintage- Really a Lovely and Classically Proportioned Year
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| Château de Camensac Producer websiteRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
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History of Bordeaux
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"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanMédoc Vins du Médoc (Conseil des Vins du Médoc) - Read More about the Medoc
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The eight precisely defined appellations of the whole of the Médoc (from Blanquefort Brook to the north of the Bordeaux built-up area, almost to the Pointe de Grave) may claim the Médoc appellation. But there is also a specific territory in the north of the peninsula which produces exclusively wines with this appellation. In the great majority, the Médocs come from the north of the peninsula. The great individuality of this region is that the number of vines has increased more recently here than elsewhere, apart from a few isolated spots where vines have grown for many years. Today, the size of the small estate has brought about the development of a powerful co-operative movement. Four co-operatives out of five belong to the group called Unimédoc which ensures aging, bottling and marketing a large proportion of their wines.Haut-Médoc Read more about Haut Medoc and its wines Long-standing fame The legally created division into Médoc and Haut-Médoc dates from 1935. But as long ago as 1815 a Chartrons broker, whose word carried weight, spoke of great red wines in the Haut-Médoc, so recognizing the high quality successfully achieved by this region's growers in the eighteenth century. The same Bordeaux broker revealed that the business world of the Chartrons and the great Bordeaux proprietors had established a sort of league-table of the parishes in which the vine-growing communes of today's Haut-Médoc appellation showed up well.
The Haut-Médoc appellation stretches over some thirty seven miles from north to south, from Saint-Seurin de Cadourne to Blanquefort. Within this area, certain zones produce wines exclusively with the Haut-Médoc appellation. It has terroirs of remarkable quality. And although we may note a certain predominance of layers of gravel (essentially Garonne gravel) from the Quaternary, all these sites are characterized by their wide diversity. Today in the southernmost communes of the appellation, the suburbs of Bordeaux, numerous vineyards which existed at the beginning of the twentieth century have disappeared, victims of urban expansion. But the vines live on... because man has retained his devotion to them.
The astonishing variety of different terroirs, the result of the very extent of the area, explains the diversity of Haut-Médoc wines, a fact which is rare within one and the same appellation.
But, over and above the differences, linked to this mosaic of climatic and geological influence, all these wines have the same family traits of character.
Alert and lively, full-bodied without being too powerful, and harmoniously balanced, they acquire a rare bouquet over the years.
In order to have the right to the Haut-Médoc appellation of controlled origin, red wines must:
- come from the communes of Blanquefort, Le Taillan, Parempuyre, Le Pian, Ludon, Macau, Arsac, Labarde, Cantenac, Margaux, Avensan, Castelnau, Soussans, Arcins, Moulis, Listrac, Lamarque, Cussac, Saint-Laurent de Médoc, Saint-Julien, Pauillac, Saint-Sauveur, Cissac, Saint-Estèphe, Vertheuil, Saint-Seurin de Cadourne "excluding all the parcels situated on recent alluvium and sand on impermeable subsoils",
- satisfy precise production conditions : grape-varieties (Cabernet-Sauvignon, Cabernet-Franc, Carmenère, Merlot Noir, Petit Verdot, Cot or Malbec), minimum of sugar (178 grammes - 6.27 oz. - per litre of must) degree (an acquired 10°5) base yield (48 hectolitres per hectare).
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