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| Community Tasting Notes (average 91.6 pts. and median of 92 pts. in 93 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by garymiller737@gmail.com on 12/17/2023 & rated 94 points: Excellent mature CDP lots of Kirsch, candied raspberry, melted liquorice and baking spice. Still plenty of freshness and structure. Will hold for another 5 years easily, but why wait... (493 views) | | | Tasted by garymiller737@gmail.com on 8/6/2023 & rated 94 points: Going to the South tonight.
Very youthful color at age 13 or so- still almost opaque. Lots of candied cherry, kirsch, baking spice , raspberry etc. some herbal notes starting to develop.
Palate matches the appearance- super fresh with lots of acidity and structure. This wine seems built to last.
Matched with some seared rib eyes on the grill. (608 views) | | | Tasted by jkwoodward on 2/10/2023 & rated 93 points: Birthday gift for my wife from Grinner! Anniversary year. Enjoyed with boeuf bourgignon. Quite nice with 2 hr decant. (927 views) | | | Tasted by Mnawacki on 12/25/2022 & rated 92 points: It was fun to diversify away from pinot noir for our Xmas turkey dinner (especially since we had an awesome Mt. Difficutly Target Gully the night before). This CDP which was a Parker 95 out of the barrel years ago was purchased via private import from Vinealis. Dark fruit dominant, kirsch, very lush and balanced at this point. Still hot in the first hour or so, white pepper that evolved into cinnamon and baking spices, the finish quite long. Provided a nice punch to the turkey meat, and paired very well with the cranberries and gravy sauces. An admittedly aggressive combination, but quite popular at our Xmas dinner table. (936 views) | | | Tasted by JGinMO on 9/1/2022 & rated 91 points: Nice but a bit more Kirsch than I prefer. (1372 views) | | | Tasted by Val D'Orcia on 7/20/2022 & rated 90 points: Many nice characteristics of a Chateauneuf, but a little more concentrated than we prefer. Still deep fruit and structure and enjoyed. (1319 views) | | | Tasted by Altonplace on 2/5/2022 & rated 93 points: Exceptional potential over the next five years. Fruit to tannin balance v good, an accompaniment to any meal or savored alone. Anticipate increased smoothness.
Decanted 40 minutes; naturally chilled to 56.
Bottle 11945. (1522 views) | | | Tasted by tomlee on 11/16/2021 & rated 94 points: Dark crimson in color. 15% ABV. Charming nose of red and black fruits, kirsch, garrigue and leather. Full bodied with perfect acidity and notable balance. Rich, vibrant Grenache bursting with fruit. Black cherry, raspberry liqueur, roasted herbs and white pepper on the palate. Tremendous length on the finish. Exceptional CdP from a tremendous vintage that is aging brilliantly. This will drink well for another 6-8 years. (1675 views) | | | Tasted by Bruce 1er on 10/31/2021 & rated 95 points: Maturing but still vibrant. Showing a unique flavor profile of terroir that demands attention. Cedar and a melange of ripe fruits including cherries, red berries and plums. Balanced with minerals and nice acidity. Outstanding. (1593 views) | | | Tasted by garymiller737@gmail.com on 5/29/2021 & rated 94 points: Light ruby in appearance - going to garnet.
Pronounced and fully evolved nose of kirsch, baking spice, candied cherries and plenty of "garrigue". The nose (in addition to the appearance) suggests an evolved wine.
Beautiful full bodied palate that shows much more freshness than the appearance or nose would suggest. Still plenty of acidity and even some moderate tannic structure. The palate is loaded with kirsch, spice and even some smoked meat flavors. Very impressive .
The finish is long an savory.
Overall very well done, but I would drink up
(this bottle was purchased on release and stored properly ever since). (1765 views) | | | Tasted by europat55 on 3/11/2021 & rated 91 points: 2009 Chateauneuf-du-Pape (Tasted Blind): Nose: 89-90. Palate: 92
My #5, Group's #6 (180 pts). Tasted blind (1956 views) | | | Tasted by PVJC on 1/1/2021 & rated 93 points: Very good with raclette dinner. Decanted 1 hr, could have used another 1-2 hrs for tannins to smooth out. Medium+ body, full flavored, on the ripe side as others have noted but enjoyable and drinking well. (1553 views) | | | Tasted by isbjoern on 12/7/2020 & rated 89 points: Has not changed much since I last tasted it in 2016. It still is fruit forward and does not show any signs of age. It is also extremely alcoholic and has some volatile acidity. Flavors are nice, with licorice, cherry liqueur, cinnamon. Classy Grenache flavors. Silky tannins and good finish. A good wine, but slightly too ripe and too alcoholic for my palate to really enjoy it. - 89 points (1466 views) | | | Tasted by rm97 on 10/27/2020 & rated 93 points: Really great place right now. (1534 views) | | | Tasted by dlf-48 on 8/30/2020: One of my favorite wines (1360 views) | | | Tasted by peeno on 4/7/2020 & rated 92 points: Spicy berries with some heat upon opening. Opens up smoothly with time. (1614 views) | | | Tasted by Bruce 1er on 2/22/2020 & rated 90 points: This bottle had a pronounced element like roasted herbs and Asian spices that probably expresses the terroir but detracts overall and is not to my liking. (1552 views) | | | Tasted by Thorwijn on 1/18/2020 & rated 93 points: Nice and full bodied CdeP. A bit strong in alcohol with 15%, but great with a strong meat dish. I preferred it over the same vintage of the VV of Chante Cigale. (1783 views) | | | Tasted by rogerr on 5/19/2019 & rated 91 points: Jammy on the nose. More balanced on the palate. I don't think this will improve with age. (1887 views) | | | Tasted by Cote d'Or on 5/1/2019: PopnPour, tasted over 2 hrs
-saturated med dark red purple, no bricking
-moderately expressive jammy plum is followed by some wet stone minerality
-med acidity, big bodied quite densely packed with kirsch-soaked black fruits that are starting to fade into an earthy element, mild-mod heat with med/med- tannins
-big wine still with a lot of fruit that somewhat buffers the heat, this is right on the edge of fruit/heat balance, certainly can last for another 5-10 years but could become imbalanced if the heat then outweighs the other structural elements (1796 views) | | | Tasted by d'Artagnan on 2/13/2019 & rated 92 points: Excellent, mûr et épicé, bel équilibre. Il me semble supérieur au 2007, mieux noté mais très irrégulier. Plein et séveux, savoureux. 92 pt (2149 views) | | | Tasted by Rollerball on 12/16/2018 & rated 90 points: This is like an exaggerated, artistic rendition of a classic cdp. It’s the same profile but the proportions and colors are Picasso’d. High score for individuality without betraying classic characteristics. In other words immediately recognizable as cdp but weird and surprising all the same. A gentler rendition might be preferable so I’d say wait out this phase and cross your fingers for the other side. 2021-2026 (2005 views) | | | Tasted by jlhkiss on 4/2/2018 & rated 89 points: Consistent with previous notes 20 months ago and still mostly closed. What I did get was hot, sweet, jammy, heavy, fleshy, and syrupy, not really my preference in CdP. Drink after 2020 for a better experience. Technical score: 90. Enjoyment score: 88. (2523 views) | | | Tasted by Villon on 2/28/2018 & rated 92 points: Nez envoûtant sur le kirsch, les fines herbes, le chocolat au lait. La bouche est riche, grasse, sur une fruit mûr bien concentré, finale longue et capiteuse avec une bonne structure tannique pour supporter le tout. L'archétype d'une CNP traditionnel hédoniste de caractère. Au début de son plateau. 92 (2471 views) | | | Tasted by Rollerball on 11/12/2017: Dense berry powder, the faint smell of crushed red pepper seeds, the flavors but not the sweetness of honey. Classic CdP grenache elements like the garrigue of a warm summer and the dark, masculine flavors of the warm, dry vintage. Not as pure as I'd hope, either for the vintage or as compared to my Ferrand benchmark, the '04, but there's dimensionality from the syrah's hint of black berry liquor, a luxurious sense of melted rocks, and a little cherry cough syrup too. Meaty texture. 6-8 years easy ahead of this. I'm inclined to wait a bit on the next bottle in hopes this gains some focus. 2019-2025. (2749 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
| Domaine de Ferrand Read more about Domaine de Ferrand
Young Philippe Bravay is unquestionable one of Chateauneuf du Pape’s up and coming stars. - Robert Parker, The Wine Advocate
Bravay is now taking over the family domaine and is extremely dedicated to preserving the unique traditions and special characteristics that Chateauneuf brings to the world. The domaine is tiny, only 5 ½ hectares of which over half is on vines approaching 100 years old, all situated in the lieu-dit Ferrand. He uses organic growing techniques, limits yields strictly (his Cotes du Rhone, even, is less than 2 1/2 tons to the acre yields, and the Chateauneuf du Pape even less) and vinifies traditionally.
The Cotes du Rhone vines were planted between 1933 and 1946, and consist of 80% Grenache, 15% Syrah and 5% Cinsault. It is "a beautiful example of how much flavor, character, and complexity can be packed into a Cotes du Rhone." - Robert Parker, The Wine Advocate
The Chateauneuf du Pape is 90% Grenache, the vines ranging in age from 60 to 100 years of age, and the balance the other twelve Chateauneuf varietals. From these he obtains superb natural ripeness, usually in excess of 14%. The vinification is traditional and the aging is for the most part in large oak foudre, but also a portion in barrique, however no new oak. As great as these wines are, judging by the potential of the ’99, which was even riper, this is a domaine that’s only going to get better.
Chateauneuf du Pape focused website
Until 1995 most of the wine was sold to negociants and only a small part was bottled by Charles Bravay. Then Philippe took over and much has happened at the estate. Philippe is the 4. generation at the property and from 1997 he has bottled most of the wine under the mark Domaine Ferrand.
Chateauneuf du Pape is made from 5,5 ha. The vines producing wine for bottling at the domain are planted 1910 and 1930. Sold wine in tank is from 30-years-old vines or younger.
Bravay owns some ha. in the Cotes du Rhone area.
Although only a few will ever get to enjoy these wines as the domaine is very small (only 5 ~ ha in Châteauneuf du Pâpe and 10 in Côtes du Rhône, which over half is on vines approaching 100 years old) they are well worth the hunt.
All the vines are situated in the lieu-dit Chemin Saint Jean, the same Northern holy grail as Charvin, Beaucastel, Marcoux and La Vieille Julienne.Current custodian Philippe Bravay uses organic growing techniques and limits yields severely (his Côtes du Rhône yields less than 2 tonnes to the acre, and the Châteauneuf du Pâpe much less) vinification is traditional: open top fermenters, basket presses, and cement cuves.Following some excellent press in the past few years, these wines have started to be hoarded by trophy collectors but remain excellent value.The Côtes du Rhône vines were planted between 1933 and 1946, and consist of 80% Grenache, 15% Syrah and 5% Cinsault. It is quite unbelievable just how good these are.France's appellation laws, whilst quite brilliant, can be frustrating for some, including Philippe Bravay - a little country road acts as a separation point that prevents these vines from being able to produce Châteauneuf du Pâpe. They are fantastic Côtes du Rhônes!
Winemaking: Natural indigenous yeasts only. Maceration 'à froid' for 2 days to avoid explosive start to the fermentation. Mostly ferments at 27/28° with 30°max. Remontage morning and afternoon for 6 days of 25% of the volume of the cuve, 20 day cuvaison follows. Press wine assembled at the start. Racked once after alcoholic fermentation and again after malolactic fermentation ‚– then not touched. Prefers to keep max amount of C02 possible during elevage. Bottled in May after 20 months with no filtration but light fining. Cuvaison and elevage is all in tank (either cement or stainless steel). - Importer NoteDomaine de Ferrand Châteauneuf-du-PapeWinemaker's Notes
The Chateauneuf du Pape is 90% Grenache, the vines ranging in age from 60 to 100 years of age, and the balance the other twelve Châteauneuf varietals. From these he obtains superb natural ripeness, usually in excess of 14%. His methods are classic and the aging is for the most part in large oak foudre, but also a small portion in old barriques, however no new oak.
The reds here start off life dark fruited, juicy and succulent and will close up after 5 years before opening again to evolve into penetrating and exotic flavours of kirsch, ash, sandalwood, leather and spice; always big wines, they are the very image of their landscape hillsides of mistral battered vines growing between sun bleached stones the size of your fist. This is a wine stylistically similar to Domaines Marcoux, Charvin and Vielle-Julienne - all of whom are neighbours.Red Rhone Blend Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.
A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce. France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comRhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)
### Wine Scholar Guild's Rhône valley vintage charts & ratings ###Southern Rhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Southern Rhone Valley
Châteauneuf-du-Pape Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape
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"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." - Robert Parker
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