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| Community Tasting Notes (average 91.5 pts. and median of 92 pts. in 66 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by cwjames on 11/28/2023 & rated 90 points: No proper note but it is still drinking very well. Probably best drunk soonish, though (621 views) | | | Tasted by Bottle Dog on 9/24/2023 & rated 92 points: A dark and beautiful red pushing on purple. After a 2-3 hour pour, the nose is of plums and spices and sweetness. The wine is drinking well now, wonderfully smooth with velvet tannins and medium acidity. Served at ~65 the wine blossoms and any heat moderated. I taste dark berries and some flowing earthy tones. It might get somewhat better, but no need to wait. (668 views) | | | Tasted by quaffnov on 8/2/2023 & rated 93 points: Three hour decant, a wonderful nose filled with cherry notes and interesting scrub/forest floor odors. The palate was on point balanced, with a richness that brought it up to the next level. (777 views) | | | Tasted by no leashes on 7/28/2023 & rated 91 points: drinking beautifully, with classic southern rhone flavors. Good one to try while waiting for other Chateauneufs to evolve. (768 views) | | | Tasted by Nati Winos on 2/14/2023: Very nice. Light, semi sweet red fruits, a touch of must or dirt. Great with salmon and continues after dinner. (1316 views) | | | Tasted by johnrm on 3/23/2022 & rated 91 points: A restaurant buy. Very deep colour and a good nose with plenty of fruit and spice. The palate showed dark berry fruit initially but dark plum and damson flavours emerged as the wine opened. Deep, soft, but persistent tannins. Very good with food. A touch of pepper and my wife got some raspberry later. Long, complex, and with very good balance. (2163 views) | | | Tasted by snarfglk on 3/5/2022 & rated 90 points: solid 90+ (2047 views) | | | Tasted by JCherniak on 1/22/2022 & rated 94 points: Deep ruby colour. Nose of blackberry and thyme. Smooth and tannic with a lengthy finish. A hint of blue fruit also. The more I drink it, the more I like it. (2114 views) | | | Tasted by snarfglk on 1/20/2022 & rated 90 points: nice 90 pointer (2087 views) | | | Tasted by cwjames on 11/14/2021 & rated 90 points: Reticent on opening, it soon developed a typical Southern Rhone aroma of raspberry and pepper. Full bodied and long. It is drinking well now but probably not for long keeping (2047 views) | | | Tasted by melvinyeowq on 10/14/2021: Bought this based on favourable reviews for a great CdP vintage but this was rather jammy with too much alcohol on the finish. Surprisingly light without much structure behind the fruit. Reminded me of a 2018 Burgundy actually. (1687 views) | | | Tasted by snarfglk on 5/1/2021 & rated 90 points: solid 90 over 2 days with little variation. real nice (1821 views) | | | Tasted by BallyJames on 4/28/2021 & rated 91 points: This bottle required two days of air and the the fruit came thru in a very nice way, full bodied with nice concentration. (1719 views) | | | Tasted by Salute on 1/29/2021 & rated 88 points: Decanted- some granular sediment that separates out quickly.
Deep dark red color, hint of purple.
Fruity nose, some floral notes.
After an hour in the decanter, it improves, but only slightly.
Very much a "New World" profile. Floral complexity is absent (2156 views) | | | Tasted by jonahfactor on 12/28/2020: This would be in our regular weeknight rotation if the tariff were a bit lower. Hits all the right buttons, from its barnyard, mushroom and crushed boysenberry nose to its wonderfully textured palate and its food-friendly finish. From an excellent vintage, this CdP probably won’t make old bones. But it’s sure lovely right now. Drink now to 2025. Outstanding, especially for its price point. (2054 views) | | | Tasted by snarfglk on 11/22/2020 & rated 90 points: 90+
lots of sediment; good wine at start but faded (2129 views) | | | Tasted by xyc on 10/24/2020 & rated 92 points: Ruby, brick, lightening on rim. Stylish nose, both loamy and fragrant spicy alcohol clouds. Rich soft aged fruit on the palate, lovely mouth full. Iconic Rhone rough velvet on the tongue. So well balanced soft earth on the floor, fruit pudding mid palate, spicy in the alto range, a touch of heat.
I agree with comments that this is not typical Vieux nor CDP. New style. You may find it more enjoyable or less than what you expect.
It certainly will not age like the 1978 vintage or many other great CNPs.
In fairness, how many are aging wines for 30+ years today? Drink and be Merry for tomorrow, you will have a new great vintage. (2012 views) | | | Tasted by KimberJ on 10/1/2020 & rated 91 points: Juicy Tanic and interesting. Costco (364 views) | | | Tasted by OT on 8/16/2020 & rated 90 points: VT classic, high standard. Rich and intense. Drink now, and next 3-5 years. Decant app. one hour. Dominant grenache as we like it. Enjoy - OT (2289 views) | | | Tasted by jonahfactor on 8/14/2020: A great entry-level wine from Vieux Telegraphe and one that promises another decade or so of enjoyment. Ruby red with a rustic barnyard nose and rosemary, bay leaf and raspberry on the palate. A slightly gritty finish. Throwing off lots of sediment; so would be worthwhile to decant through a filter. From a great vintage. Drink now to 2030. Outstanding for its price point. (1901 views) | | | Tasted by Life At Your Leisure 🍷 on 8/12/2020 & rated 92 points: Medium-to-dark ruby color turning orange rust at the rim with a reflective edge. Smoky notes of red fruits, black tea, soy bean and dried herbs on the nose. The palate is medium-plus with fleshy tannins and lifting acidity that form the backbone and balances out the ripe red cherry and cranberry fruits with secondary flavors of vanilla and dark chocolate. Finishes long enough with dusty dried herbs and a hint of spice. This is so well-made. Excellent for a second wine. Drink now with a 20-minute decant until 2031. 92+ (1932 views) | | | Tasted by gjetson on 4/3/2020 & rated 93 points: Classic CDP hits all the right notes. Drinking beautifully right now. Heaven with the duck confit at Le Bistro at Lake Tahoe on a snowy night. So good, we had three bottles. (1871 views) | | | Tasted by peeno on 3/21/2020 & rated 91 points: Spicy dark fruits. (2110 views) | | | Tasted by jonahfactor on 2/21/2020: A recommendation from Patrick at Nielsen’s Market, and spot on with the beef bourginon (sp?) at our favorite Carmel bistro. Decanted for 30 minutes, which loosened the hinges and produced a wine that punches way above its weight. Ruby black in the glass with a black fruit compote and herb bouquet. Lots of tea leaf, blackberry and black plum on the palate and a zesty finish. As an entry-level for Vieux Telegraphe, this is a beautifully constructed wine. Won’t make old bones. Drink now to 2025. Outstanding. (1960 views) | | | Tasted by skurtz on 1/22/2020 & rated 91 points: Enjoyed over two nights on Grand Cayman. Berries and spices on the nose, intense red berries, nice acid and lots of spicy pepper on the finish. This was great with pan seared tenderloin on day 1, and held up well overnight (slightly more acid, less red fruit) on day 2 with pan seared lamb with herbs, followed by sea trout. Overall a delicious young wine, constructed for early enjoyment it seems! (2298 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
| Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Producer website
U.S. Importer (Addt'l Info)
A visit to Domaine Vieux Telegraphe hosted by proprietor Alain Brunier -
https://unwindwine.blogspot.com/2019/08/domaine-du-vieux-telegraphe-chateauneuf_3.html Red Rhone Blend Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.
A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce. France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comRhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)
### Wine Scholar Guild's Rhône valley vintage charts & ratings ###Southern Rhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Southern Rhone Valley
Châteauneuf-du-Pape Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape
Another site on this appellation
Vineyards on weinlagen-info
"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." - Robert Parker
Vintage Chart 1978 to Today
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