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| Drinking window: Drink between 2020 and 2024 (based on 12 user opinions) |
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| Community Tasting Notes (average 88.7 pts. and median of 89 pts. in 27 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by fdizzy on 7/23/2023: Very fragrant nose. Melon
Body - alcohol more forward than expected, residual sweetness, mineralogy
Off-dry/semisweet (275 views) | | | Tasted by beatles on 4/19/2023 & rated 91 points: Layered and interesting. Plays on the oxidized notes, shows confit, minerals, lemon zest, smoke; like this one, excentric, yet within limits.
#Tiende (883 views) | | | Tasted by RajivAyyangar on 12/17/2022 & rated 91 points: [0.7] Blinds at Angler (Angler, SF): (Blind) Medium minus yellow-gold.
Bone dry. Slight Terpenes. Bruised apple oxidation.
Fantastic nose. Candied, preserved, dessicated rose petals (terpenes and age/oxidation). Tart sautéed apple fruit as well.
Medium body, 13% alcohol. Medium plus acid. Tart malic as well. Very slight bitterness. Not enough that I think phenolic bitterness is stylistic. Smooth apply finish. OMg this is so good.
Elevated acid wines with oxidation and just a hint of terpenes:
- White Rioja - would have more oak.
- Savennieres — would be higher alcohol and acid and maybe dirtier (botrytis?)
- Voivray (sec tendre) - would have some RS and higher acid.
- Older Chablis - would have the hint of terpenes.
Initial call:
- 2020 Loire Chenin, Savennieres, entry level.
Tasting it again after a while, the terpenes are so pronounced. Dried rose petals.
I’m changing my guess to an oxidized muscat. High acid. Older though (since the terpenes fade quickly).
Final call: 2018 Muscat, Alsace. Good quality.
Actually: 2018 Deiss Alsace field blend!
This explains the general oddness of oxidation with terpenes. One interesting note - it doesn't have detectable RS (maybe a tiny bit - less than 5g). That's been a problem in the past. Maybe they picked grapes at different times...leading to some oxidation? I wonder how vineyard management and picking works for this blend!
Such an interesting tapestry of flavors. (676 views) | | | Tasted by sjw_11 on 10/22/2022 & rated 86 points: A year on from my last note, and this bottle was decidedly less impressive. The fruit remains in the tropical end of the spectrum, but there is a distinct oxidative note as well. The palate is a bit unbalanced as well. Not sure if this is now getting past it or if this is just the vagaries of cork. (467 views) | | | Tasted by Ankanhm on 5/20/2022 & rated 90 points: Complex with a lot of citrusy flavours, white flowers and peach. Long finish and loads of minerals. Zesty, tasty and very nice to smoked beetroot. (560 views) | | | Tasted by Brian of Mull on 10/9/2021 & rated 88 points: Pale yellow color. On the nose: white flowers, citrus and tropical fruit notes. On the palate: Citrus (orange and lemon), honeysuckle, beeswax and tropical fruits. Good mouthfeel. Finish is a bit short. Solid wine. (877 views) | | | Tasted by sjw_11 on 8/6/2021 & rated 87 points: I think this is my fourth bottle from a six pack. This is a blend of all 13 allowed Alsace varieties. In the glass this has a full yellow colour. The nose is quietly exotic with notes of lychee, apricot, and citrus. The palate opens with fairly broad, sweet yellow fruit. Quite juicy even. It is not over sweet and the acid just about stays in balance. Pretty decent although pushing €15-16 the value is perhaps a little questionable, albeit you do also get the genuinely lovely label design. (806 views) | | | Tasted by François1986 on 6/20/2021 & rated 88 points: Robe paille d'intensité moyennement pâle
Nez d'intensité moyenne dans lequel beaucoup d'arômes se bousculent : mirabelle, pêche jaune, nectarine jaune, rose léger, litchi léger, épice léger, sensation sucrée.
Bouche: sec mais avec une pointe de sucre, ronde, fruit jaune, fraiche, longueur intéressant, petite amertume en finale. (810 views) | | | Tasted by YoRi on 5/27/2021 & rated 89 points: Nez très expressif, floral et fruits exotiques.
Bouche ample et généreuse, litchi, miel de trèfle, sucrosité perceptible mais digeste, maintenir frais. Un bon accord avec cuisine sucré-salé. (772 views) | | | Tasted by Anne F on 4/4/2021: Tout est en équilibre dans ce vin. La légère touche de sucre résiduel se fond dans la minéralité de l’ensemble et malgré l’amplitude du corps et des parfums, un verre en appelle un autre. (760 views) | | | Tasted by Mister Ice on 11/21/2020 & rated 89 points: Pale yellow color, green reflections. Fruity, white fruits, citrus (lemon) in the foreground. Good intensity and persistence with an appreciable sweet note. Very pleasant offering various possible pairings. (493 views) | | | Tasted by MarcinKoral on 11/6/2020 & rated 90 points: Straw in color and nicely aromatic with stone, honey, lemon meringue, stone fruit, and nice tropical and floral notes. Nice round profile and light. Fresh with grapefruit, stone fruit, and light citrus on the palate. (495 views) | | | Tasted by Ben Christiansen on 9/17/2020: Well a lovely beautiful smell to it. Ripe on the nose but leaner on the palate. Maybe not dry. Maybe not to me. Really interesting and powerful. (704 views) | | | Tasted by maxima on 9/8/2020 & rated 88 points: Nez fort parfumé qui embaume, on dirait un peu pot-pourri,
surtout florale avec un peu d'épices.
En bouche, belle amplitude, des zestes de citrons, de
la marmelade avec un peu de miel.
Assez long en finale, bien.
Élaborée à partir de 13 cépages! (1262 views) | | | Tasted by Thefatbastard on 8/19/2020: de mémoire... Nez intense de fruits exotiques. En bouche, c'est gras, assez long et du beaux fruits avec des notes de roses. Résiduel un peu élevé pour mon goût, doit se prendre en mangeant sinon un verre suffit... (519 views) | | | Tasted by poste244 on 8/7/2020 & rated 89 points: Vraiment très bon. Riche et parfumé mais sans tomber dans la surenchère. Bel équilibre sucre\acidité\amers. (435 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
| Marcel Deiss Producer website | producer profile on thewinedoctor.com.
This producer review originally published on Vinography.Com 05.19.2012
http://www.vinography.com/archives/2012/05/domaine_marcel_deiss_alsace_cu.html
Alsace, the oft-contested and much-coveted skinny strip of land between northeastern France and its neighbor Germany, is an odd and unique place. Like several other such zones around the world, it has been a part of so many different countries and empires that it enjoys a sort of twilight zone atmosphere, where place names reflect one language, spoken words another, and family histories often both or none of the above.
Alsace is also a unique landscape sculpted by both rivers and volcanic events, but bearing the unmistakable and essential traces of a more ancient geological past as the bottom of a wide ocean. It is no wonder that the wines of this region are like nowhere else on earth, and it is no wonder that the winemakers of this region are some of the most unique characters in the world of wine.
Jean-Michel Deiss is one of those characters. Deiss, along with his partner Marie-Hélène Cristofaro, run Domaine Marcel Deiss, started by Jean-Michel's father in 1947. The domaine's namesake, Marcel Deiss, was the direct descendant of a family of winegrowers who settled in the Alsace town of Bergheim in 1744 when it was part of France (arriving before it was part of Germany, and then part of France, and then part of Germany, and then part of France again -- over the next 300 years).
Deiss is quite possibly at once both the "essential" Alsatian winemaker -- for his tireless advocacy of the region's potential and the incredible quality of his wines -- and yet also the black sheep of the region who never quite does things the way anyone else does or thinks they should be done. He's just sort of troublemaker I enjoy and is a magnet for criticism over any number of different things.
Alsace is one of the few regions of France where it is not only legal but also tradition that wines be produced primarily as single varietals and labeled as such (as opposed to being labeled by vineyard and appellation as elsewhere in the country). It is the only region in France where you will see a Grand Cru designation alongside the name of a grape variety.
Deiss, however, believes firmly in that vineyard expression trumps varietal expression, and has raised furors for years over his decision to label single varietal wines only with the names of his vineyards. Deiss also has a tendency to produce field blends of multiple varieties that are sold with only the name of the vineyard on the label.
Only in 2005 did the French government finally come around to Deiss' way of thinking and permit such wines to be labeled as individual vineyard sites and to carry the designation of Grand Cru, though many of his neighbors still scoff at the idea.
Deiss is also a fervent devotee of biodynamic viticulture, a fact which, these days, is one of the few things he has in common with many of his neighbors. The domaine has been fully biodynamic since 1997, and was farmed organically for the 20 years prior to that. While biodynamic viticulture is quite a leap for some winemakers, especially when it comes to its more spiritual practices, Deiss has long had a spiritual sense of his winemaking and winegrowing. He has been known to claim that one of the main reasons he does field blends of grapes like Muscat, Riesling, Pinot Gris, Gewurztraminer and Pinot Noir is that in his vineyards they all ripen simultaneously (which, if true, would be quite unusual).
Presumably, if God makes them ripen all at once, then why not make wine with them?
The Deiss estate's 67 acres contains several Grand Cru designated vineyards planted primarily with Riesling, Gewurztraminer and Pinot Gris, plus smaller amounts of many other varietals including several more members of the Pinot family. All the vineyards are planted with a vine density of sometimes more than 4050 plants per acre. Perhaps not surprisingly in keeping with this low-vigor, high-stress planting, the vines are pruned severely and yields are restricted to levels that are generally less than half of the average yield in the region.
Deiss' winemaking fits into the general zone of "natural" and biodynamic winemaking practices. He uses sulfur, but apart from that, he's in the zone of primitive, non-interventionalist winemaking. Native yeasts, extended time on the skins for some wines. fermentations as long as they take, a long time in big oak casks often on the lees, and as little else done to the wines as possible with no fining or filtration before bottling.
Deiss' wines defy description in many ways. Their flavors transcend categories and grape varieties, and end up being astonishingly unique expressions of a place and vintage. They are as idiosyncratic as they are delicious, and remain some of my favorite wines in the world. I cannot recommend them highly enough.
White Blend"White blend" means the wine is made from a blend of two or more different white varieties - or in some cases a blend of pink or red varieties that are vinified white, ie. without any skin contact.
A blend of Antao, Arinto, Rouperio. France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comAlsace Vins d'Alsace (Conseil Interprofessionnel des Vins d'Alsace)
Please see the AlsaceEntryGuide for more information how the wines of Alsace are entered and organized in CellarTracker.
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