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OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 10:27:48 AM   
S1

 

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Schrader
No Girls
Outpost
quite possibly Saxum


Anyone else culling mailing lists these days?

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 10:36:09 AM   
gbm

 

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Status: offline 		Ditto on the Saxum. Although I haven't ordered QC in 3 or 4 years and I can't seem to get off their list.

I like Saxum. I just need a some time off. It's not them. It's me.

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 10:37:57 AM   
mc2 wines

 

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Status: offline 		Outpost doesn't seem to cull. We have never really ordered and got the offer.

Schrader seems to give you a 1 year grace period. We got the offer another year after we stopped buying.

Not sure on the others.

Constant evolution of culling and adding and culling and adding. It's a bit scary though when you put the spreadsheet together of everything (a recent event which does tend to pre-empt more culling)

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 10:49:52 AM   
nyccablover

 

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Status: offline 		I also get the QC offer every year after not buying for at least 4-5 years - figure they must not have a waiting list anymore. Also get some out of the blue offers from ones that I was on the waitlist from a long time ago like Bryant and Harlan.

The only lists I still buy from are:

VHR
Drinkward Peschon
Arnot Roberts - Rose & Trosseau only now - but on the fence this year maybe outgoing
Sandlands - just made it for the 2nd wave this year - bought what they offered - so reasonable

Ones that dropped me immediately after not buying:
Saxum
Abreu
Scarecrow


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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 10:56:52 AM   
wineismylife

 

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Status: offline 		There is only 1 list I order from every single time, everything offered and ask for more to boot. SQN. Everything else has or can be cut. Period.

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 11:13:09 AM   
hankj

 

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Status: offline 		Don't know the others well enough, but if I was on Schrader or No Girls I'd get out of those too.


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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 11:39:59 AM   
ccotton8

 

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From: Dallas, TX
Status: offline 		I think i'm done with:
Horsepower
Gramercy
Sanguis
Force Majuere (too much in the cellar and not a good QPR anymore)
Keplinger
Sojourn
Myriad
Liquid Farm

Cutting way back on Dirty & Rowdy and Cruse Wine, just too much in the cellar



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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 11:50:58 AM   
Eddie

 

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Status: offline 		Reynvaan.

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 12:43:02 PM   
CranBurgundy

 

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Status: offline 		The majority of my culling happened last year just so I could buy so much '15 Riesling and some '14 Burgundy. This year I went the opposite way (regression if you wish to call it that) and again ordered Outpost True Vineyard and Rivers-Marie. I guess that means I had skipped them last year instead of culled them from the list, eh?

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 1:28:39 PM   
ericindc

 

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This year dropped

Under the Wire
Sandlands
Ultramarine
Selyem
Rhys

May keep Becklyn and Back cat... dunno

I'll buy some Harrington (super cheap, but good stuff), but there is no list, and some Castelli nebbiolo when that comes out, but thats it.




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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 1:29:49 PM   
WineGuyCO

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: S1

So I suppose I will be removed from these lists since I passed
Schrader
No Girls
Outpost
quite possibly Saxum


Anyone else culling mailing lists these days?


S1............I'm sure you could go in on somebody else's Outpost (or any other) allocation if they did drop you. I'm sure there are other CTer's in your area that you could piggyback on. If not I'm happy to order some extra Outpost for you and we'd just have to figure out how to get them out to you. It can be done. I've dropped all of my wine clubs since I don't have a job. I was a Foxen Wine Club Member for many years. I'm seeing a lot of their wines locally now so I can still get them. I'm still on the mailing list for Outpost and Quivet but that is it right now.

Rick

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 1:35:06 PM   
PinotPhile

 

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From: Southern CA
Status: offline 		So new to the allocation thing that I haven't been dropped from any list.

I am getting a second-year offer from Kosta Browne this year. Really not sure what I will do. Am interested in some of the offer, but my frugal mind is challenging $70 or so per bottle. Even for PN. And if I get dropped, there are always other offers coming.

There is an attraction to staying on lists to see how past loyalty will be rewarded, but is that enough for me to keep buying a bit each year? That is:

Dilemma Cheers!


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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 1:54:34 PM   
nmw

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mc2 wines

Outpost doesn't seem to cull. We have never really ordered and got the offer.

Schrader seems to give you a 1 year grace period. We got the offer another year after we stopped buying.

Not sure on the others.

Constant evolution of culling and adding and culling and adding. It's a bit scary though when you put the spreadsheet together of everything (a recent event which does tend to pre-empt more culling)

Schrader does give you a 1 year skip. I confirmed that with them before passing this year. So far no other outgoing…yet. Though do have some candidates that will not make the cut coming up.

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 2:04:21 PM   
BobMilton

 

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Status: offline 		Well, until this morning it was looking like my wife and I were going to drop every list we were on. Since her lung transplant, we have been adjusting to all the meds she has to take. One of those is an anti-fungal called Noxafil. On Medicare Part D, the copay is $1500 per month! That would destroy the wine budget. Was afraid we were going to be reduced to an occasional two-buck Chuck (heaven forbid). But learned this morning that we were accepted in the Merck assistance program, which reduces that cost considerably. So now I can order some Carlisle and Epoch. And some Berserkerday gems.

< Message edited by BobMilton -- 1/23/2018 2:06:24 PM >

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 3:16:46 PM   
hankj

 

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Status: offline 		Hey Bob so glad you figured out a way to get the medication without going broke in the process. Hope all works out for your spouse.

Drink a toast from the next bottle of fine wine you open to Martin Shkreli's prison sentence!

< Message edited by hankj -- 1/23/2018 3:17:09 PM >

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 3:55:32 PM   
recotte

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hankj

Hey Bob so glad you figured out a way to get the medication without going broke in the process. Hope all works out for your spouse.

Drink a toast from the next bottle of fine wine you open to Martin Shkreli's prison sentence!




I dropped Saxum a couple of years ago... it took two years of not ordering to not receive an offer.

This year I've culled:

Sandlands
Proper

On the bubble for later in the year:

Ultramarine
Villa Creek
Reynvaan (this one is actually decided)


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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 3:57:57 PM   
wadcorp

 

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From: Kansas City, MO
Status: offline 		Out on:

Pine Ridge (prices have just gotten outta control)
Bedrock
Epoch
Beaux Frères (somehow got on their list after our 2014 visit)
Brick House
Ayres
Keplinger

Just can't afford to be in clubs or lists right now.

.


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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 4:19:09 PM   
CranBurgundy

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: wadcorp

Out on:

Bedrock

.



This one hurt a little, considering how good their Old Vine and Monto Rosso Zins are.

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 5:15:20 PM   
BenNoir

 

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From: Snoqualmie River Valley, WA
Status: offline 		Nice twist on your Incoming thread S1.

Producers with multi-year historical buys that are excluded from the 2018 plan:
Once & Future
Bontzu
Carlisle
Maison Bleue

Producers being reduced in 2018 and may be dropped in 2019:
Garrison Creek
Devona
Tapteil
Avennia
Sheridan
Ancillary
Latta

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 6:00:31 PM   
mtpisgah

 

Posts: 3570
Joined: 6/7/2012
From: South Carolina
Status: offline 		Dropped in the last year or two:
Schrader (I made the list last year and did not order, no offer this year, so dropped)
Quivet
Carlisle (love the wines but they are very similar to Bedrock which I buy)
Roy Piper
Liquid Farm
Skipping Myriad, Bedrock (probably) and Vincent this year, but not dropping. I have too much in stock now and need to spread the love.

There are a lot of wineries who's list I signed up for but never bought from, so I will not even list them.

I am buying less from all lists this year so I can focus more on Old World wines.

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 6:20:57 PM   
Endodr

 

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Status: offline 		I'm dropping Peter Michael. His bottles are way too expensive. There are better deals on older, ex chateaux Bordeaux and they are ready to drink now.

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 6:30:44 PM   
S1

 

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From: Wandering between Coastal SC and South FL
Status: offline 		Keeping
Drinkward-Peschon
Carlisle
Sandlands
Scarecrow
Continuum
Copain
Cristom
Becklyn
MACDONALD
Lewelling
Vincent

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 6:43:13 PM   
KPB

 

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From: Ithaca, New York
Status: offline 		I’m not on a ton of lists. Dropped Kapcsandy (style), Harlan/Bond (price), got dropped by Thomas (some issue when I went on sabbatical, but I have a lot of his wine...). In fact I could buy Kapcsandy and Harlan and Bond on the open market, at the same and sometimes, at lower prices.

Currently buying directly from VHR, Sineann, Arnot-Roberts. Recently bought a few bottles from Bevan, might stay on that list, although honestly they may not really be allocating.

There are some, like MacDonald, that I would order from if I was offered an allocation..

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 7:02:59 PM   
ChrisinCowiche

 

Posts: 7845
Joined: 12/16/2009
From: Cowiche, WA
Status: offline 		Over past 3-4 years have dropped...

Alexandria Nicole
Fidelitas
Tres Sabores
Milbrandt
Severino
Steppe
Sagelands
Cascade Cliffs
Adams Bench
Maison Bleue
Cooper
Naches Heights
Two Mountain
Ramseyer
Cave Ridge
The Wine Closet
Force Majeure

On list but never ordered

Quilceda Creek
Betz

Survivor clubs

Cultura
Rotie

Overrunning us faster than we can drink it...

Goat Rocks


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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 7:12:01 PM   
fingers

 

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From: Santa Ana, CA
Status: offline 		I’ve dropped all clubs but two: Chateau Margene and McPrice-Myers, which I may also excuse in 2018. I still enjoy those wines when my palate is in that mood, but I have enough backfilled to last since I more commonly drink OW stuff these days.

The only “list” I was ever on was Maison Ilan, hence my hesitation to commit to any more. Besides, the world of wine is so broad and so deep, and I can find pleasure from so many sources, that I don’t feel like being locked in to any one producer forever.
Except maybe, Huet

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/23/2018 7:56:11 PM   
BornToRhone

 

Posts: 3131
Joined: 2/14/2012
From: The Big D, Texas
Status: offline 		Skipping or leaving on the table this month:

Patricia Green
Schrader
Turley
Rivers-Marie
Sojourn
Quilceda Creek
Arnot Roberts
Kutch
Kosta Browne

Buying very small select quantities from

Myriad
Littorai
Rhys

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/24/2018 4:22:05 AM   
Franklin 10

 

Posts: 1419
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From: Indianapolis
Status: offline 		From my cell phone NOTES:
“Wine Mailing lists: 2018 CHANGES from 2017
2 Lads: YES
Alban: ?
Aubert: NO
Beekeeper: YES
Continuum: NO
Diamond Creek: ?
Hayfork: NO
Kistler: YES
L. Mawby: YES
Latta: YES
Littorai: NO
MacDonald: YES
Maison Bleue: YES
Occidental: NO
O'Shaughnessy: NO
Outpost: YES
Paul Hobbs: YES
Reynvaan: NO
Rhys: NO
Seavey: NO
VHR: ?”

Many of the ones we will buy from will be smaller amounts than previous years. All those we’re definitely not buying are wine makers that are well represented in the cellar and I’m happy about those purchases. Reasons for not buying vary from too rigid “club” rules to rising prices or we just have enough.

With regards the latter reason, there’s just lots of great stuff to seek out, especially OW (not really palate shift as we are omnivores and are constantly changing it up).

The question marks will be game day decisions based on the status of our budget. Not sure we wouldn’t buy any of them in the future if/when we get offers 2019 and beyond.

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/24/2018 5:47:04 AM   
BenNoir

 

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quote:

Reasons for not buying vary from too rigid “club” rules to rising prices or we just have enough.


The Clubs can be irritating. I joined because I loved their wines, but then they send me weird varietals or blends I do not like, and do not send me the wines I loved. Plus some clubs send multiple shipments (e.g. 3 bottles 4 times a year) and then hit you with $13/bottle S&H charges.

So I find myself wanting to reduce my winery direct purchases and do a bit more impulse shopping at local stores. Particularly for daily drinkers.

quote:

there’s just lots of great stuff to seek out, especially OW


I agree, there will always be great wine available, often at a friendly tariff. I don't know what OW stands for.

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/24/2018 6:48:26 AM   
dontime

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bennor

quote:

Reasons for not buying vary from too rigid “club” rules to rising prices or we just have enough.


The Clubs can be irritating. I joined because I loved their wines, but then they send me weird varietals or blends I do not like, and do not send me the wines I loved. Plus some clubs send multiple shipments (e.g. 3 bottles 4 times a year) and then hit you with $13/bottle S&H charges.

So I find myself wanting to reduce my winery direct purchases and do a bit more impulse shopping at local stores. Particularly for daily drinkers.

quote:

there’s just lots of great stuff to seek out, especially OW


I agree, there will always be great wine available, often at a friendly tariff. I don't know what OW stands for.

I'd guess "old world".

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RE: OUTGOING!! - 1/24/2018 7:21:41 AM   
mc2 wines

 

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Status: offline 		We've gotten in the habit of an annual trip to Napa so I look at some of our buying as also an investment in that trip. For the wines that we already buy from the list means we don't have to buy anything when there and can try what we've gotten and have a pleasant time. Some places (Colgin, BOND) don't even want to sell you anything during that time!

But yes - there prob does need to be some culling. Trying to buy more ready to drink and auction and of course need the money for the OW stuff as well.

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