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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/26/2023 7:08:51 PM   
oskiwawa

 

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Status: offline 		Corked and cooked are two totally different things. TCA is stable with temperature. If there are studies that show otherwise, I would love to see them. The reason that mature wines appear to be corked is that the dominant wine traits ( tannin, ripe fruit, etc…. ) recede and time allows the TCA to take over. It has little or nothing to do with storage temperature.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/30/2023 1:56:33 AM   
diphthong

 

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Status: offline 		Corked bottles still instructive in terms of the "body" of the wine...esp if you're unfamiliar with the producer.
Taste it to get the "feel." Spit, rinse out the glass thoroughly and sally forth.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 12/26/2023 11:18:41 AM   
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Opened this to have with Christmas lasagna. I had poured off a glass about an hour before dinner to check in on it, and on PnP there was plenty of fruit and earthy notes happening, but it seemed a touch off. 10 minutes before dinner, the TCA was unmistakable. While completely undrinkable, I used it to give a quick lesson to those who were interested about what a corked wine is and the characteristics. Then it went down the drain, and we had a nice cremant with dinner, instead.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 12/26/2023 12:37:25 PM   
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Opened this to have with Christmas lasagna. I had poured off a glass about an hour before dinner to check in on it, and on PnP there was plenty of fruit and earthy notes happening, but it seemed a touch off. 10 minutes before dinner, the TCA was unmistakable. While completely undrinkable, I used it to give a quick lesson to those who were interested about what a corked wine is and the characteristics. Then it went down the drain, and we had a nice cremant with dinner, instead.


you've heard the saying, right? Do you want to buy a good case of Italian wine? Buy two!

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 12/26/2023 2:38:58 PM   
recotte

 

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ORIGINAL: recotte

2013 Fattoria di Fèlsina Berardenga Chianti Classico Riserva Rancia

Opened this to have with Christmas lasagna. I had poured off a glass about an hour before dinner to check in on it, and on PnP there was plenty of fruit and earthy notes happening, but it seemed a touch off. 10 minutes before dinner, the TCA was unmistakable. While completely undrinkable, I used it to give a quick lesson to those who were interested about what a corked wine is and the characteristics. Then it went down the drain, and we had a nice cremant with dinner, instead.


you've heard the saying, right? Do you want to buy a good case of Italian wine? Buy two!




I should definitely have known better than to not bring a backup bottle. Rookie mistake!

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 12/27/2023 12:51:45 AM   
diphthong

 

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Status: offline 		two bottles in the last two months..a 1982 Cos d'Estournel and an 1985 Brainaire-Ducru.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 12/27/2023 7:46:36 AM   
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two bottles in the last two months..a 1982 Cos d'Estournel and an 1985 Brainaire-Ducru.


Ouch!!!

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/23/2024 5:15:19 PM   
oskiwawa

 

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2017 Camus Pere & Fils Gevrey-Chambertin. Could smell this as soon as the cork was pulled. Down the drain it went.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/27/2024 5:13:58 PM   
mclancy10006

 

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/9/2024 2:41:01 AM   
eyewino

 

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Upon opening, the smell and taste made me think more of smoke taint, but a few hours later it was definitely just severely corked.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/15/2024 11:12:05 PM   
diphthong

 

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Status: offline 		1986 horizontal. Opened 38 bottles. 2 corked.
Victims: Pichon-Lalande
Cos d-Estournel.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/16/2024 3:33:46 AM   
eyewino

 

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ORIGINAL: diphthong

1986 horizontal. Opened 38 bottles. 2 corked.
Victims: Pichon-Lalande
Cos d-Estournel.



Holy smokes! That's a lot of bottles from 38 years ago. Impressive! Favorites?

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/16/2024 9:07:19 AM   
jmcmchi

 

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1986 horizontal. Opened 38 bottles. 2 corked.
Victims: Pichon-Lalande
Cos d-Estournel.




Just over 5%…..about in line with the period norm

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/19/2024 1:50:12 PM   
Mike Evans

 

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1990 Chateau Rayas CdP. What a total shame...


A friend used to have an annual tasting of the top 1989 and 1990 Chateauneufs and three years in a row the 1990 Rayas was corked (though one year a corked bottle was still one of the group's top three wines). We finally got a clean bottle the fourth year.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/20/2024 1:15:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just opened a bottle of Ice Wine. Honestly I didn't even know what an Ice Wine is, or how it's made . Grear dessert wine who loves sweet ones.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/20/2024 6:30:54 PM   
brettlaurvick

 

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Owner didn’t think it was corked, but it definitely was. Glad he drank and enjoyed it

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/26/2024 8:34:32 AM   
Slye

 

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Status: offline 		2009 Cayuse En Cerise Syrah. Ugh. Luckily I had brought a backup, a 2008 En Chamberlin which was singing.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 4/10/2024 5:12:11 PM   
S1

 

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ouch

I've been on a bit of a bad luck streak this year.

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