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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 6/21/2012 2:49:35 PM   
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the source has asked that we keep there private for the time being. I feel that if we decide to continue working with them they will be comfortable with us and our project to communicate who they are, the vineyard name and possibly get a name vineyard designate on the label.

BTW - for the 2010 and beyond project, I just noticed a label of cabernet that didnt state the actual name of the vineyard, but did state that the wine was a "Single vineyard wine" so this may be a way to put a little more clarity on our Rutherford, single vineyard label.

Just a thought.

while still keeping THAT secret

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 6/21/2012 3:08:27 PM   
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Are we supposed to keep the Rutherford source secret? I thought it had already been posted.

I understand on the spring mountain source. No problem.p

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 6/21/2012 3:47:14 PM   
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Are we supposed to keep the Rutherford source secret? I thought it had already been posted.

I understand on the spring mountain source. No problem.p



I has been posted, but I have a contract and a relationship with Andy B that I do not want to compromise. If you want to know what kind of a mess I could get into, take a look at the beating that Billo@ Rasa received when one vineyard got wind of where their fruit was going on the WA Barrel adoption thread. So lets let sleeping dogs lie. I will let folks know the source of the Spring Mtn fruit as soon as I am able.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 6/21/2012 4:01:30 PM   
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Sleeping dogs can bite you in the arse if you wake them. Got it. 'tis a shame tho. Personal labels saying blank blank vineyard would be cool, but to be avoided if it threatens the source.

I haven't read thru the entire WA thread, so I missed any difficulties.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 6/21/2012 4:28:20 PM   
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What you do with the wine as the final owner is beyond what I have control over.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 6/21/2012 8:25:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: smigdiggler


quote:

ORIGINAL: RadoDejarmer

Are we supposed to keep the Rutherford source secret? I thought it had already been posted.

I understand on the spring mountain source. No problem.p



I has been posted, but I have a contract and a relationship with Andy B that I do not want to compromise. If you want to know what kind of a mess I could get into, take a look at the beating that Billo@ Rasa received when one vineyard got wind of where their fruit was going on the WA Barrel adoption thread. So lets let sleeping dogs lie. I will let folks know the source of the Spring Mtn fruit as soon as I am able.


I personally think it is a shame that a vineyard owner objects to their fruit being included in a project on the basis that CellarTracker users are involved but then again, I am not in their shoes.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 6/21/2012 8:32:32 PM   
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I believe it has more to do with the thought of the wine being sold to an end client for a less than desirable retail price. The thought from the source is that it devalues the wine and could compromise the overall value of the fruit. Therefore if the vineyard designate or growers name is not on the label, devaluation would not occur.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 6/21/2012 8:59:40 PM   
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I believe it has more to do with the thought of the wine being sold to an end client for a less than desirable retail price. The thought from the source is that it devalues the wine and could compromise the overall value of the fruit. Therefore if the vineyard designate or growers name is not on the label, devaluation would not occur.


Yeah, I get it from a purely business view, but still, I wouldn't want to alienate a group like this.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/1/2012 6:56:11 PM   
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I also understand that they want to protect the value of their fruit.

The barrel projects, while possibly not unique, must be rare in the wine world. While I agree that we are the "end client", simple wine buying consumer doesn't not really fit. We partner to buy fruit, buy barrels, and consult with a winemaker to produce and age the wine. This makes us more like a wine producer than a retail store customer or wine club member. The difference between the CT groups and other wine producers is that we choose to consume all of the wine that we produce.

I don't see how the wine that we produce can effect the value of X vineyard wine, when none of our wine reaches the market.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/3/2012 12:45:06 AM   
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I also understand that they want to protect the value of their fruit.

The barrel projects, while possibly not unique, must be rare in the wine world. While I agree that we are the "end client", simple wine buying consumer doesn't not really fit. We partner to buy fruit, buy barrels, and consult with a winemaker to produce and age the wine. This makes us more like a wine producer than a retail store customer or wine club member. The difference between the CT groups and other wine producers is that we choose to consume all of the wine that we produce.

I don't see how the wine that we produce can effect the value of X vineyard wine, when none of our wine reaches the market.


I don't think Beckstoffer needs to worry about his market. If one of his clients chooses not to buy his grapes (and what choice do they really have), 10 more are lined up to grab their allotment. The reality is that a group I am involved with buys 30 tons from Beckstoffer's Rutherford plots, and we would by more if he would let us. If only we could get our hands on some of his To-Kalon... Andy can pick and choose who he sells to and we all pay pretty much the same per ton, whether the juice ends up in bottles that sell for $30 or $150.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/3/2012 1:07:04 PM   
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Andy can pick and choose who he sells to and we all pay pretty much the same per ton, whether the juice ends up in bottles that sell for $30 or $150.


I'd like the CT Barrel project to remain one of those whom Andy B. sells to.
If keeping quiet on where the grapes/juice comes from is a stipulation - my lips are sealed.
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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 1:14:18 AM   
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Oh, I agree completely. The CT barrel project needs to play by the rules. I just think the charade that occurs (not just with the CT project) is humorous, because it suggests that the grape is the wine. Of course quality fruit is hugely important, but so is the winemaker, the barrel, the toasting, the blending and all other aspects that go into a quality product. Beckstoffer sells his GIII grapes to at least 20 different major wineries. I don't think Schrader, for example, is worried about, let's say, Stag's Leap accessing GIII grapes, even though the price difference is about $100 per bottle. This is the business that Beckstoffer is in and everybody knows it.

If the CT project loses their juice, I think the most likely cause is a year with low yields. AB has numerous contracts that are based on tonnage, so if yields are particularly low, the little guys are the ones that lose out.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 1:55:23 AM   
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Am I alone in thinking that having 'your' grapes in the CT Barrel wine is rather an honor, and one that could in the long term increase a wineries reputation globally?

I hope the CT Barrel project becomes a permanent feature - personally I'm in it for the long haul.

Roll on 14th July!

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 4:30:27 AM   
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An interesting anecdote...

I recently had a conversation with a winemaker who has a significant level of control over who gets the fruit from a rather famous vineyard in Washington State.

I told him about the custom crush project in Napa and how it had been extended to Walla Walla. He was extremely intrigued by the entire concept--not that it was a custom crush project (those are a dime a dozen) but how we all "met" online and how this has all played out over the past few years. He was very interested as this wasn't just a bunch of telecom or I/T gajillionaires trying to make a wine with "names" attached to impress their friends, but rather a group of normal folks looking to make a great QPR wine without hubris. He is a friend of Billo's and was intrigued as to how he was selected as the winemaker for a project with "partners" from all over the globe.

He is very interested in talking to us through Billo about using "his fruit" for next years project. He sees the benefit in that us CT'ers collectively have about 25,000 bottles of his wines in our cellars and it would be good "PR" and just general good will. It's a very organic approach to doing business, one that should allow him to see continued success. I'll get with Scott later this year and give him the details.


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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 4:44:00 AM   
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You deserve a glass!

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 4:54:09 AM   
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An interesting anecdote...

I recently had a conversation with a winemaker who has a significant level of control over who gets the fruit from a rather famous vineyard in Washington State.

I told him about the custom crush project in Napa and how it had been extended to Walla Walla. He was extremely intrigued by the entire concept--not that it was a custom crush project (those are a dime a dozen) but how we all "met" online and how this has all played out over the past few years. He was very interested as this wasn't just a bunch of telecom or I/T gajillionaires trying to make a wine with "names" attached to impress their friends, but rather a group of normal folks looking to make a great QPR wine without hubris. He is a friend of Billo's and was intrigued as to how he was selected as the winemaker for a project with "partners" from all over the globe.

He is very interested in talking to us through Billo about using "his fruit" for next years project. He sees the benefit in that us CT'ers collectively have about 25,000 bottles of his wines in our cellars and it would be good "PR" and just general good will. It's a very organic approach to doing business, one that should allow him to see continued success. I'll get with Scott later this year and give him the details.



This is very encouraging. It is nice to see a vineyard owner that sees the value in having their fruit showcased through a project like this to a group of enthusiasts. Cant speak for others but I am fairly certain that I will end up being very loyal to the producers (winemakers and vineyard owners) that are part of these projects. I could understand if a vineyard owner was hesitant to supply fruit if they didn't know or have confidence in the winemaker but to just object on the basis that they don't want their fruit to be a part of a project because of the resulting per bottle cost to the participants doesn't make much sense to me. I know QPR has been mentioned a number of times in connection with both projects but I have a feeling that QPR is not the primary motivator of the majority of the core participants. At least, for me, it is a nice bonus but my participation is more about being a part of the community and fellowship aspect of it.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 6:58:29 AM   
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Oh, I agree completely. The CT barrel project needs to play by the rules. I just think the charade that occurs (not just with the CT project) is humorous, because it suggests that the grape is the wine. Of course quality fruit is hugely important, but so is the winemaker, the barrel, the toasting, the blending and all other aspects that go into a quality product. Beckstoffer sells his GIII grapes to at least 20 different major wineries. I don't think Schrader, for example, is worried about, let's say, Stag's Leap accessing GIII grapes, even though the price difference is about $100 per bottle. This is the business that Beckstoffer is in and everybody knows it.

If the CT project loses their juice, I think the most likely cause is a year with low yields. AB has numerous contracts that are based on tonnage, so if yields are particularly low, the little guys are the ones that lose out.


Geppetto,

The AB contracts are based on rows of vines. (going from memory...We are in block B1B and we are contracted to take all the fruit from rows 17-20) We can request whatever farming practices we desire, within a certain limit. i.e. leaf pulling, thinning, etc. but when it comes time to pay the bill, its determined by tonnage. So if a lean year happened, as 2011 was. we wouldnt get shut out, we would just get less. Now if they don't allow us to sign a contract next year, then we are shut out.

BTW - if we are short and there are rows available, they try to sell on the spot, when the fruit is picked. at the point of harvest, tonnage is tonnage.

I didnt want the group to think they would get pushed out if things got lean, if we have a contract, we will get some fruit.


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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 7:19:18 AM   
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This is all very exciting but also very confusing for a limey.

Are we saying the vineyard is a secret or we're just not allowed to talk about it? I don't even know what vineyard we are talking about

And happy Down-With-The-Brits day to all of you over there in the colonies. How have the last couple hundred years been going for you out there?

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 7:52:30 AM   
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I'd like the CT Barrel project to remain one of those whom Andy B. sells to.
If keeping quiet on where the grapes/juice comes from is a stipulation - my lips are sealed.
Mum's the word.


I agree 100%. What is in the bottle is the most important.

I am just trying to wrap my brain around the desire to either keep sites secret or not to sell to us at all.  Logically for me, the argument that it could devalue the fruit, just doesn't add up.

That being said, if you are trying to build a reputation for your vineyard(presumably so you can sell all your fruit or raise the price), then you don't want a large majority of your fruit detached from the market at large(and the critic's tasting glass). You would have to be a pretty small vineyard for the CT projects to make a significant dent.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 7:55:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: annerk

An interesting anecdote...

I recently had a conversation with a winemaker who has a significant level of control over who gets the fruit from a rather famous vineyard in Washington State.

I told him about the custom crush project in Napa and how it had been extended to Walla Walla. He was extremely intrigued by the entire concept--not that it was a custom crush project (those are a dime a dozen) but how we all "met" online and how this has all played out over the past few years. He was very interested as this wasn't just a bunch of telecom or I/T gajillionaires trying to make a wine with "names" attached to impress their friends, but rather a group of normal folks looking to make a great QPR wine without hubris. He is a friend of Billo's and was intrigued as to how he was selected as the winemaker for a project with "partners" from all over the globe.

He is very interested in talking to us through Billo about using "his fruit" for next years project. He sees the benefit in that us CT'ers collectively have about 25,000 bottles of his wines in our cellars and it would be good "PR" and just general good will. It's a very organic approach to doing business, one that should allow him to see continued success. I'll get with Scott later this year and give him the details.



Wunderbar.  It is nice to know some are interested, instead of running away.  Would this be Rhone, Bordeaux, or either varietals?

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 7:56:40 AM   
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Geppetto,

The AB contracts are based on rows of vines. (going from memory...We are in block B1B and we are contracted to take all the fruit from rows 17-20) We can request whatever farming practices we desire, within a certain limit. i.e. leaf pulling, thinning, etc. but when it comes time to pay the bill, its determined by tonnage. So if a lean year happened, as 2011 was. we wouldnt get shut out, we would just get less. Now if they don't allow us to sign a contract next year, then we are shut out.

BTW - if we are short and there are rows available, they try to sell on the spot, when the fruit is picked. at the point of harvest, tonnage is tonnage.

I didnt want the group to think they would get pushed out if things got lean, if we have a contract, we will get some fruit.



Great to know!

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 7/4/2012 8:41:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: annerk

An interesting anecdote...

... a friend of Billo's and was intrigued as to how he was selected as the winemaker for a project with "partners" from all over the globe.

He is very interested in talking to us through Billo about using "his fruit" for next years project. He sees the benefit in that us CT'ers collectively have about 25,000 bottles of his wines in our cellars and it would be good "PR" and just general good will. It's a very organic approach to doing business, one that should allow him to see continued success. I'll get with Scott later this year and give him the details.



Tell him I'm desparate to own some great West Coast wines, 6,000+ bottles of wine and just a single Napa representative!!!
Lot's of upside.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 9/12/2012 3:53:04 PM   
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*bump*

Might be time for an update on the progress of the vineyards and fruit. Seems like we are 2-3 weeks away from harvest IIRC.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 9/12/2012 4:18:50 PM   
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actually just got a reading from the mountain fruit today 21 brix, seeds beginning to brown slightly. tasting good, but need some more time in the sun....has a few weeks to go. will be checking on the GIII fruit this week as well.

Thanks for the Reminder GG. Second deposit payments are due by Oct. 1st.

Payments of $296.75 should be made out to Elde Vin LLC and mailed to Elde Vin LLC 22 Audubon Way Novato, Ca 94945.

If you're not sure whether you have a payment due, please PM me.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 9/12/2012 4:47:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: smigdiggler

actually just got a reading from the mountain fruit today 21 brix, seeds beginning to brown slightly. tasting good, but need some more time in the sun....has a few weeks to go. will be checking on the GIII fruit this week as well.

Thanks for the Reminder GG. Second deposit payments are due by Oct. 1st.

Payments of $296.75 should be made out to Elde Vin LLC and mailed to Elde Vin LLC 22 Audubon Way Novato, Ca 94945.

If you're not sure whether you have a payment due, please PM me.

Cheers,
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Dave I thought, and it was stated in the first part of this thread that Nov 1st 2012 was the due date. Am I the only one who thought this? I'm in for half, but I need to send a check to prasm asap if Oct. 1st is the required date. I had the check planned to be cut on Oct. 1st 2012 and then mailed by the bank. If things are different then I will try to get the check sent tomorrow.

This is a cut from post number 1.

Total price for the 3 case project is $1187.00
Deposit Due by June 15th - $593.50
Second Payment due by Nov 1, 2012 - $296.75
Final Payment due by March 1, 2013 - $296.75

< Message edited by champagneinhand -- 9/12/2012 4:49:02 PM >


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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 9/12/2012 7:08:24 PM   
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You're right, we were late this season getting the contract finalized. My bad the OP is updated to reflect nov 1


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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 9/12/2012 7:17:15 PM   
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thanks
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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 9/12/2012 8:43:03 PM   
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thanks
I wasn't panicked but I wasn't prepared

Hang in there on the other thing.


That's were I was at. As it seems to be the season to grab up on reduced priced wines. Treasury event is coming, I am sure there is more besides JJB, PA state store, Gary's(NJ) just finished there 25% off sale. Not to mention the big road trip. Hoping an outcome unlike "Deliverance," when traversing the Appalachians.

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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 9/12/2012 9:15:49 PM   
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sorry everyone about the quick trigger. The contract was October but I gave you guys an extra month since we started so late. Well atleast I got everyones attention I wonder what I will get in my SS bag if I get one of you guys as my SS.



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RE: ADOPT A BARREL 2012 VINTAGE - 9/12/2012 9:49:55 PM   
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sorry everyone about the quick trigger. The contract was October but I gave you guys an extra month since we started so late. Well atleast I got everyones attention I wonder what I will get in my SS bag if I get one of you guys as my SS.




We will have to do thorough research on ancient healing recipes for liver issues as long as it doesn't consist of Rhino horn or Tiger parts. I know some people in China town that would ship. Either that or a low ABV dessert wine, that you can will to your smiglets to drink once they hit 21, like a BA riesling or SGN Pinot Gris from Alsace. Something that is tasty but not so hard on the liver. Tokaji, can be opened and have just a small <2oz. pour per day and it will go for weeks in the refrigerator without the need for Argon gas. I am sure the same goes for the other low ABV dessert wines as well.

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