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RE: Italia - 5/5/2017 3:12:51 PM

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Holy crap! Reading through this thread for the first time...I am jealous! Next trip I would be happy to go with you as your caddy, I can carry bags for you and I work for wine

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RE: Italia - 5/7/2017 2:47:10 AM

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OK, it's been too long since I've updated this (or my blog for that matter), but it's been nuts. Totally nuts. In the ~ 50 days I've been here, I think I have tasted north of 2000 wines; about 50-60 that thrill, thrill, thrill, with another hundred not too far behind. That said, it's been the people I've met that have proven the most memorable.

Taking the day today to plan the next installment of the trip: Campi Flegrei (near Naples), Avellino/Taurasi/Benevento, then a quick couple of days in Vulture region. After, I'll head up to Umbria/Liguria for 3-4 days, before I wind down the trip with the last few weeks in Aosta/Barolo/Barbaresco/Dogliani and Valtellina.

So far, it's been a great success, notwithstanding a few small setbacks (read: nearly 20 days of National holidays/weekends that don't allow for appts, ).

Today I am in Barbaresco, this evening a dinner at a winemaker's house in Roero, and Tuesday I'll be at Castello di Monsanto in Chianti before I end the week with 3 (more) days in Montalcino.

Anyone that's a fan of Produttori del Barbaresco, you need to go LONG on 2014 PdB Barbaresco. Really long. The same for 2013 Ceparello. (with more to follow...at some point)

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RE: Italia - 5/7/2017 12:03:07 PM

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it's been the people I've met that have proven the most memorable.

Right on, Tim. I think there is often a 'patience' in their lives that has such good results; North America, on the other hand, feels rushed to me.

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RE: Italia - 5/10/2017 3:21:23 PM

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+10 on the Produttori Barbaresco. What a GREAT QPR as well.

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RE: Italia - 5/10/2017 3:32:53 PM

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OK, it's been too long since I've updated this (or my blog for that matter), but it's been nuts. Totally nuts. In the ~ 50 days I've been here, I think I have tasted north of 2000 wines; about 50-60 that thrill, thrill, thrill, with another hundred not too far behind. That said, it's been the people I've met that have proven the most memorable.

Taking the day today to plan the next installment of the trip: Campi Flegrei (near Naples), Avellino/Taurasi/Benevento, then a quick couple of days in Vulture region. After, I'll head up to Umbria/Liguria for 3-4 days, before I wind down the trip with the last few weeks in Aosta/Barolo/Barbaresco/Dogliani and Valtellina.

So far, it's been a great success, notwithstanding a few small setbacks (read: nearly 20 days of National holidays/weekends that don't allow for appts, ).

Today I am in Barbaresco, this evening a dinner at a winemaker's house in Roero, and Tuesday I'll be at Castello di Monsanto in Chianti before I end the week with 3 (more) days in Montalcino.

Anyone that's a fan of Produttori del Barbaresco, you need to go LONG on 2014 PdB Barbaresco. Really long. The same for 2013 Ceparello. (with more to follow...at some point)

ciao

Grazie como sempre.

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RE: Italia - 5/10/2017 11:55:04 PM

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Have been reading a bit on Roero of late. Any frugal-type (< $15-$20, say) recommendations? Red or White?

From you or other CTers, of course!

Salute!

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RE: Italia - 6/10/2017 9:46:33 AM

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My time here is nearly at an end. 48 hours from now, I will have left Barolo area and moved to Milan; 16 hours after that, I will be on a flight to Newark, and the day after that, back in Colorado. It's truly been an amazing trip, a deep discovery. progress, or, at least, change

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RE: Italia - 6/10/2017 10:37:25 PM

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Congrats on a safe and successful trip, Tim - one that many of us dream of in our wine filled sleep. Safe travels back to Colorado and we hope to see you this fall in Denver (if you are around at the time).

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RE: Italia - 6/12/2017 3:26:19 AM

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Anyone (lurkers?) want to meet for an aperitivo in Milano this afternoon/evening?

My flight tomorrow is in to Newark. After looking at all the natural beauty of Italia since March, I don't even know if I can bring myself to open my eyes and see Newark - it could hurt, a lot!

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RE: Italia - 6/12/2017 4:46:16 AM

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Anyone (lurkers?) want to meet for an aperitivo in Milano this afternoon/evening?

My flight tomorrow is in to Newark. After looking at all the natural beauty of Italia since March, I don't even know if I can bring myself to open my eyes and see Newark - it could hurt, a lot!

If it were humanly (or even inhumanly) possible...
So glad you are safe and had another successful trip.

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RE: Italia - 6/12/2017 5:50:35 PM

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I have thoroughly enjoyed following your adventures via Facebook, Tim. I appreciate you sharing the experience.

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RE: Italia - 9/8/2017 10:56:19 AM

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Che grandi viaggi Tim. Sono geloso ma siamo stati in Piemonte pochi anni fa. Che bel posto, no?. Perche non vai a Valpollicalla? Siamo appena ritornato ricentemente di Italia en Giugno. Nostra vacanze era primariamente in Croatzia ma eravamo una settimana in Lago Di Garda, Valpolicella e Venezia ma non mi piace molto Venezia. Sovrafollata. Nostra soggiorno era a Sant'Ambrosio di Valpollicella. Compravamo Amarone in mercato per 18-22 eauro. Ho comprato una bottiglia di Allegrini Amarone 2008 per 55 euro. Che bel prezzo e ottimo.

Una altre cose e vedo che tu abiti in Colorado. Specificamente in Castle Pines. E possibile che il mio moglio e io ci trasferiamo presto a Castle Pines. Depende il mio lavoro ma se succede voglio incontrarti un giorno. Ci parliamo i vini di Italia, cibo di Italia e tutto Italia e condividiamo alcune vino. Grazie la tua informazione di la tua vacanza. Ciao

Riccardo

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RE: Italia - 9/8/2017 11:12:10 AM

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I don't even know if I can bring myself to open my eyes and see Newark - it could hurt, a lot!

Don't forget the smell. That'll augment the experience.

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RE: Italia - 9/8/2017 11:28:34 AM

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Learning just a bit of Italian. It is a quest.

Posso avere una bottiglia di vino bianco? Vino rosso?

Close enough.

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RE: Italia - 9/8/2017 12:02:58 PM

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Learning just a bit of Italian. It is a quest.

Posso avere una bottiglia di vino bianco? Vino rosso?

Close enough.

You're getting the idea. Take some Junior college classes and then a conversational class and you're on your way. I would usually say:

Vorrei una bottiglia di vino rosso (It's the conditional tense of Volere, I would like). Or:

Per favore, puoi portarmi una bottiglia di 2008 Allegrini Amarone..........(can you bring me)

I still say a lot of things wrong. I try and listen to how the Italians talk and then I change if I'm saying it incorrectly. There are usually several ways to say the same thing and even if you say it wrong they will understand you. They will understand that you can't speak the language too. Ha.

When I first started writing in Italian I wrote.......Non posso aspetare (I can't wait) which is completely wrong. I was in Italy and my friends daughter says, We say Non vedo lora which made no sense at the time. Literally translated, I can't see the time? Ohhhkay.

I also mix Spanish and Italian which is crazy. I usually catch myself and just change the word. Lol When we were in Croatia................forget it. Didn't even try and it's incomprehensible.

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RE: Italia - 9/8/2017 6:15:48 PM

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Thanks. Working my way through a Mango Languages course offered free via our local library. Trying to get enough to do a trip to Italia some day. It is on the bucket list. And making decent progress.

Plan to keep at it. Tonight having a Spanish Vino Tinto, though. No Italian.

Cheers & Cin Cin!

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RE: Italia - 1/2/2018 7:20:57 PM

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It's nearly that time again Italia, Francia, Germania, Zurigo! - 2018

our daughter graduates HS this year, so I've got to get back about 3-4 weeks sooner than I normally do. The post (above) outlines a fair amount. Just 21 days remain till departure (and during that time, LA, Chicago and Minneapolis). I'm already tired.

anyone coming to visit me this year (with a shout(s) out to Mr & Mrs borntorhone for their visit last year, and also M of mc2wines's parents and C's, of mc2wines -in laws, those folks rock!)

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RE: Italia - 1/2/2018 9:24:01 PM

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There's just one basic rule.

Don't shout/speak loudly in English - it p***es people off

Anything else is usually seen as trying to be polite, especially interspersed wiyh a couple of the basic please/thankyou phrases that everybody should learn

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RE: Italia - 1/9/2018 4:18:52 PM

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on winebid this week (x3) for $80. opened this past weekend.

Treat yourself. Sure to wow you.

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RE: Italia - 1/9/2018 6:42:01 PM

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on winebid this week (x3) for $80. opened this past weekend.

Treat yourself. Sure to wow you.

I hate it when shops do not direct ship to SC. Neither Winebid nor K&L ship direct but can be shipped through a third party, which of course is more expensive. I guess it saves me money in the end.

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RE: Italia - 1/10/2018 6:29:33 AM

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There's just one basic rule.

Don't shout/speak loudly in English - it p***es people off

Anything else is usually seen as trying to be polite, especially interspersed wiyh a couple of the basic please/thankyou phrases that everybody should learn

This rule should apply at all times everywhere.

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RE: Italia - 1/10/2018 3:31:18 PM

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screaming, under $20 bargain Frappato, please

2015 VDA

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RE: Italia - 1/10/2018 4:26:42 PM

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screaming, under $20 bargain Frappato, please

2015 VDA

Ok, you talked me in to it. I can grab a bottle of 2013 around the corner from the store I'm running closing shift tonight, and then get the 2015 at a favorite local haunt.

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RE: Italia - 1/10/2018 6:15:43 PM

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I just found the thread so maybe this will help on your next trip. I spent a couple of years in Gaeta, north of Naples (sic). Beautiful little town back then and NOT a touristy area. Some good ruins from WWII in the town and great people. Like everywhere in Italy they grow their on grapes. Granted it has been 25+ years since I was there lol but should be worth a stop.

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RE: Italia - 1/10/2018 7:37:30 PM

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thank you, vineline. It's towns like Gaeta that I absolutely live for. I sacrifice pretty much everything I have to experience Italia in its raw form, the way the people live, so I'm in these types of towns (villages, really) all the time. If people are speaking English, you can bet I will not be there.

This year, my tenth year of enjoying 3+ months of my life on the ground, I may decide to visit a tourist spot/city, if only because there are so many state holidays, and I can't get appointments with growers! I may get my very first tourism day there since my first trip in 1991.

Also, this year I may well up my game, as all of my new (4K) video/photo gear showed up today, and I hope I can share the way I've always wanted to - so that others can see what I see every year, it's nothing short of breathtaking, as you, and others, already know.

But in the end, it's the people; it's the simplicity, and not the Duomos, it's not the Roman ruins, or the famous waterways, Simply, the people. And of course, the land, as special as any place on earth; the dirt, recording history, and giving life, enriching, exciting life.

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RE: Italia - 1/11/2018 2:23:54 PM

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another enjoyable (and only $19) Italian Red. This one's a bit different, a blend of Merlot, Cab Sauv, Cab Franc raised in (mostly older) Fr. barriques - and I liked it (at 20 years old).

1998 Sportoletti Villa Fidelia Rosso

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RE: Italia - 1/11/2018 3:37:55 PM

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We also enjoy the Sportoletti Villa Fidelia. I had half a case of the 2001 and a case of the 2007. The 2001s are gone but we still have about half of the 2007s. Great value and a wine that everyone likes.

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RE: Italia - 1/12/2018 7:41:12 AM

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cheers, Scott, those 07s are in a good place now.

Here's the list of what I'll be tasting on 15 April at Opera Wine/VinItaly (just announced, the Wine Spectator choices/lineup - not mine). ItalianWine.blog

La lista dei vini

ABRUZZO
Binomio – Montepulciano d'Abruzzo Riserva 2012
Masciarelli – Montepulciano d'Abruzzo Villa Gemma Riserva 2011
BASILICATA
Elena Fucci – Aglianico del Vulture Titolo 2013
San Martino – Aglianico del Vulture Kamai 2011
CALABRIA
Odoardi – Calabria GB 2013
Vincenzo Ippolito – Cirò Colli del Mancuso Riserva 2012
CAMPANIA
Fattoria Galardi- Campania Terra di Lavoro 2013
Feudi di San Gregorio – Taurasi Piano di Montevergine Riserva 2011
Mastroberardino – Taurasi Radici Riserva 1998
Quintodecimo – Taurasi Vigna Grande Cerzito Riserva 2011
Salvatore Molettieri – Taurasi Vigna Cinque Querce Riserva 2007
EMILIA ROMAGNA
Drei Donà – Sangiovese Romagna Superiore Pruno Riserva 2012
La Stoppa – Emilia Ageno 2012
Tenuta Pederzana – Lambrusco Grasparossa di Castelvetro Cantolibero 2015
FRIULI VENEZIA GIULIA
Gravner – Ribolla Venezia-Giulia Selection 2003
Jermann – Venezia-Giulia Dreams 2013
La Tunella – Friuli Colli Orientali Biancosesto 2014
Livio Felluga – Rosazzo Abbazia di Rosazzo 2012

LAZIO
Falesco – Lazio Montiano 2011
LIGURIA
Cantine Lunae Bosoni – Vermentino Colli di Luni-Liguria Black Label 2014
LOMBARDIA
Bellavista – Extra Brut Franciacorta Vittorio Moretti 2008
Ca’ del Bosco – Franciacorta Cuvée Annamaria Clementi Riserva 2005
Mamete Prevostini – Sforzato di Valtellina Albareda 2013
Nino Negri – Sforzato di Valtellina 5 Stelle Sfursat 2011
MARCHE
Garofoli – Verdicchio dei Castelli di Jesi Podium 2014
Umani Ronchi – Conero Campo San Giorgio Riserva 2011
MOLISE
di Majo Norante – Molise Don Luigi Riserva 2014

PIEMONTE
Aldo Conterno – Barolo Romirasco 2009
Antoniolo – Gattinara Osso San Grato 2012
Braida di Giacomo Bologna – Barbera d'Asti Bricco dell'Uccellone 2015
Cavallotto – Barolo Bricco Boschis Vigna San Giuseppe Riserva 2010
Elvio Cogno – Barolo Ravera 2008
Falletto di Bruno Giacosa – Barolo Falletto Vigna Le Rocche Riserva 2011
Gaja – Barbaresco Sorì Tildìn 2013
Giuseppe Mascarello & Figlio – Barolo Monprivato 2011
Luciano Sandrone – Barolo Le Vigne “Sibi et Paucis” 2008
Marchesi di Barolo – Barolo Sarmassa 1998
Massolino – Barolo Vigna Rionda Riserva 2006
Paolo Scavino – Barolo Rocche dell'Annunziata Riserva 1999 (magnum)
Produttori del Barbaresco – Barbaresco 2011
Prunotto – Barolo Bussia 2011
Renato Ratti – Barolo Marcenasco 2008
Vietti – Barolo Lazzarito 2009
PUGLIA
Gianfranco Fino – Primitivo di Manduria Es 2013
Leone de Castris – Salice Salentino Donna Lisa Riserva 2013
Schola Sarmenti – Primitivo Salento Diciotto 2012
Tormaresca – Aglianico Castel del Monte Bocca di Lupo 2012
SARDEGNA
Agricola Punica – Isola dei Nuraghi Barrua 2011
Argiolas – Isola dei Nuraghi Turriga 2008
Cantina Sociale di Santadi – Carignano del Sulcis Superiore Terre Brune 2010
Dettori – Rosso Romangia 2004

SICILIA
Cusumano – Sicilia Sàgana Tenuta San Giacomo 2014
Donnafugata – Passito di Pantelleria Ben Ryé Edizione Limitata 2008
Feudi del Pisciotto – Terre Siciliane Carolina Marengo 2014
Morgante – Nero d'Avola Sicilia Don Antonio 2013
Pietradolce Etna – Vigna Barbagalli 2013
Planeta – Carricante Sicilia Eruzione 1614 2015
Serraglia – Passito di Pantelleria Carole Bouquet Sangue d'Oro 2015
Tasca d'Almerita – Chardonnay Contea di Sclafani Vigna San Francesco 2014
Tenuta delle Terre Nere – Etna Prephylloxera La Vigna di Don Peppino 2010
TRENTINO ALTO ADIGE
Elena Walch – Alto Adige Beyond the Clouds 2015
Ferrari – Brut Trento Giulio Ferrari Riserva del Fondatore 2000
Tenuta San Leonardo – Vigneti delle Dolomiti San Leonardo 2011
TOSCANA
Altesino – Brunello di Montalcino Montosoli 2011
Antinori – Bolgheri Superiore Guado al Tasso 2013
Avignonesi – Vino Nobile di Montepulciano Grandi Annate Riserva 1997
Biondi-Santi – Brunello di Montalcino Tenuta Greppo Riserva 1997
Boscarelli – Vino Nobile di Montepulciano Il Nocio 2013
Carpineto – Vino Nobile di Montepulciano Vigneto Poggio Sant'Enrico 2009
Casanova di Neri – Brunello di Montalcino Tenuta Nuova 2006
Castello Banfi – Brunello di Montalcino Poggio alle Mura 2012
Castello d'Albola – Chianti Classico Riserva 2013
Castello di Ama – Toscana L’Apparita 2014
Castello di Volpaia – Chianti Classico Riserva 2010
Fattoria di Fèlsina – Toscana Fontalloro 2005
Fontodi – Colli della Toscana Centrale Flaccianello 2009
Il Poggione – Brunello di Montalcino 2010
Le Macchiole – Toscana Messorio 2010
Marchesi de’ Frescobaldi – Brunello di Montalcino Castelgiocondo 2012
Mastrojanni – Brunello di Montalcino Vigna Schiena d'Asino 2010
Mazzei (Castello di Fonterutoli) – Maremma Toscana Tenuta Belguardo 2013
Petrolo – Toscana Galatrona 2011
San Felice – Chianti Classico Poggio Rosso Gran Selezione 2013
Siro Pacenti – Brunello di Montalcino PS Riserva 2010
Ornellaia – Bolgheri Superiore 2012
Tenuta di Trinoro – Toscana 2012
Tenuta San Guido Bolgheri Ssassicaia 2004
Valdicava – Brunello di Montalcino Madonna del Piano Riserva 1988

UMBRIA
Arnaldo Caprai – Montefalco Sagrantino Collepiano 2011
Lungarotti – Torgiano Rubesco Vigna Monticchio Riserva 2010
Tabarrini – Montefalco Sagrantino Colle Grimaldesco 2006
VALLE D’AOSTA
Grosjean Freres – Fumin Valle d'Aosta Vigne Rovettaz 2010
VENETO
Allegrini – Amarone della Valpolicella Classico 2012
Bertani – Amarone della Valpolicella Classico 2008
Bortolotti – Extra Dry Valdobbiadene Superiore 47 U. Bortolotti NV
Cesari – Amarone della Valpolicella Bosan 2001
Gini – Soave Classico Contrada Salvarenza Vecchie Vigne 2014
Leonildo Pieropan – Soave Classico La Rocca 2011
Maculan – Veneto Acininobili 2009
Masi – Amarone della Valpolicella Classico Serègo Alighieri Vaio Armaron 2006
Nino Franco – Dry Valdobbiadene Prosecco Superiore Primo Franco 2006
Prà – Soave Classico Monte Grande 2015
Suavia – Soave Classico Monte Carbonare 2015
Tedeschi – Amarone della Valpolicella Classico Capitel Monte Olmi 2007
Tommasi – Amarone della Valpolicella Classico Ca' Florian 2008
Zenato – Amarone della Valpolicella Classico Sergio Zenato Riserva 2009
Zymè – Veneto Harlequin 2003

should be a few fun wines that day [:)

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RE: Italia - 1/12/2018 8:12:52 AM

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We expect a detailed tasting note on each one of those!

Some really good choices there. What a lineup!

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RE: Italia - 1/12/2018 9:32:07 AM

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