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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 8:36:22 AM   
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Not surprising, and reflective of our love for visiting California's Central Coast.




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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 9:12:57 AM   
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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 10:02:05 AM   
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Dr. Bürklin-Wolf 1.2%
Fattoria di Fèlsina 1.2%
Virage Vineyards 1.2%
Produttori del Barbaresco 1.1%
Thomas 1.1%

I am so spread out that buying a case of anything would move it into the top 10. I go wide not deep

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 2:10:54 PM   
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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 2:37:48 PM   
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1. Robert Chevillon
2. Fourrier
3. Armand Rousseau
4. Mugneret Gibourg
5. Sylvain Cathiard
6. Bruno Clavelier
7. Haut Brion
8. VCC
9. Comte Liger Belair
10. Ghisland Barthod


I would like to see one or two German Riesling in the top 10, Willi Schaefer or JJ Prum.



Hi pcln,

Didn't you once have a lot of LLC?

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 2:48:12 PM   
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Sandlands 2.4%
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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 5:30:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ibetian

quote:

ORIGINAL: pclin

1. Robert Chevillon
2. Fourrier
3. Armand Rousseau
4. Mugneret Gibourg
5. Sylvain Cathiard
6. Bruno Clavelier
7. Haut Brion
8. VCC
9. Comte Liger Belair
10. Ghisland Barthod


I would like to see one or two German Riesling in the top 10, Willi Schaefer or JJ Prum.



Hi pcln,

Didn't you once have a lot of LLC?


Yes. But I have stopped buying LLC post 2010 vintage.


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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 9:49:40 PM   
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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 9:50:41 PM   
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Heitz Cellar 2.64%
Truett-Hurst 2.64%
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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/17/2017 10:48:49 PM   
pclin

 

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For the unitiated, LLC is....


Leoville Las Cases - my favorite 2nd growth

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/18/2017 5:56:18 AM   
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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/18/2017 12:15:35 PM   
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Any thoughts on French second wines and French frugal-type wines always appreciated. I don't have enough experience to wisely select from juice >$20, nor is French juice consistent w/my cellar strategy. But daily and weekend drinkers are not in the strategic category. Most French wines I find are in areas like Languedoc, Roussillon, Provence.

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/18/2017 1:14:53 PM   
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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/18/2017 1:57:50 PM   
jmcmchi

 

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Costco has a Guigal Cotes du Rhone (red) and a white from Delas which are both solid. Also a Brocard Chablis at around $16. They also have halves of Carmes de Rieussec at about $10 (second wine of Rieussec) as an intro to Sauternes big names

Generally Languedoc amnd Roussillon are better value than other regions, and you might find a picpoul ( lightish white) as you look around

Unless you like a particular house style, the second wines are going to have a bit of a price uplift because of the grand vin name as compared with a petit chateau. That said, Marquis de las Cases, second of Leoville L C is frequently outstanding

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/18/2017 2:15:41 PM   
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Will check out local Costco soon and add these ideas to my list...


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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/18/2017 8:20:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PinotPhile

Any thoughts on French second wines and French frugal-type wines always appreciated. I don't have enough experience to wisely select from juice >$20, nor is French juice consistent w/my cellar strategy.


Extend your budget $5 and get some Joseph Drouhin Cotê de Beaune Villages. Totally worth it.

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/18/2017 9:05:29 PM   
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Try the Loire Valley for red and white.


Yes. Has become my new go-to when a restaurant or bar is savvy enough to have it and I'm ordering a glass of something. One of the areas where there's still some good value to be had.


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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/18/2017 9:13:41 PM   
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Lancaster Estate 2.7% Bottles (58) / Value $3,362 / Average vintage 2007.2
Audelssa Estate Winery 2.4% Bottles (51) / Value $2,228 / Average vintage 2007.9
Iron Horse Vineyards 1.7% Bottles (36) / Value $1,715 / Average vintage 2009.6
Piña Cellars 1.7% Bottles (35) / Value $2,944 / Average vintage 2008.9
Castello di Monsanto 1.6% Bottles (33) / Value $775 / Average vintage 2008.4
Repris 1.5% Bottles (32) / Value $2,626 / Average vintage 2011.1
Chateau St. Jean 1.2% Bottles (26) / Value $734 / Average vintage 2005.8
Tenuta Sette Ponti 1.2% Bottles (25) / Value $1,057 / Average vintage 2009.4
Scherrer Winery 0.9% Bottles (20) / Value $767 / Average vintage 2007.5
Louis M. Martini 0.9% Bottles (20) / Value $473 / Average vintage 2007.3

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 7:38:28 AM   
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JJ Prum
Boislauzon
Cayuse
Myrat
Dirty & Rowdy
Carl Loewen


The Myrat and Loewen are both on that list strictly by virtue of case+ purchases of one particular wine; all others are listed pursuant to a selection of different bottlings.

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 10:13:22 AM   
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Domaine Huet
Renato Ratti
Ridge
Château Guiraud
Col Solare
Casanova di Neri
Louis Jadot
Antinori
Alvear
Domaine du Pégaü
Pio Cesare
Orma

I could use a stack of BDX in there somewhere, maybe add some Chateau Smith Haut LaFite and push that label up to the top too.

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 12:10:53 PM   
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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 1:17:20 PM   
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Cayuse 2.9% Bottles (110)
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Abeja 2.4% Bottles (94)
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Washington, Check.

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 1:26:43 PM   
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I'm surprised by the bdx, given that I rarely drink those (but I guess that's why they stick around in large numbers).

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 1:35:48 PM   
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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 1:52:29 PM   
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Wow nice!

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Cantemerle
Lilian Ladouys
Produttori del Barbaresco
JJ Prum
Buchegger
Ch. Tour St. Christophe
Ch. Guiraud
Cristom
Huet
Donnhoff

I'm surprised by the bdx, given that I rarely drink those (but I guess that's why they stick around in large numbers).



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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 1:57:03 PM   
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Is it wrong to be head over heels in love with the composition of one's own wine cellar?


Absolutely not! You should love your cellar!

Overall Top 10:
Colgin
Pride Mountain Vineyards
Progeny Winery
Château de Beaucastel
Sine Qua Non
Arkenstone
Château d'Yquem
Reynvaan
Constant
David Arthur

Very Napa heavy, but it's interesting to see the purchasing trend so far in 2017, which means the Top 10 will likely change soon-ish

Top 10 in 2017
Château Rayas
Carter Cellars
Hundred Acre Vineyard
Abreu
Progeny Winery
Château de Beaucastel
Lokoya
Bodegas Vega-Sicilia
Henri Bonneau
Sine Qua Non


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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 2:46:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hankj

Is it wrong to be head over heels in love with the composition of one's own wine cellar?


Absolutely not! You should love your cellar!

Overall Top 10:
Colgin
Pride Mountain Vineyards
Progeny Winery
Château de Beaucastel
Sine Qua Non
Arkenstone
Château d'Yquem
Reynvaan
Constant
David Arthur

Very Napa heavy, but it's interesting to see the purchasing trend so far in 2017, which means the Top 10 will likely change soon-ish

Top 10 in 2017
Château Rayas
Carter Cellars
Hundred Acre Vineyard
Abreu
Progeny Winery
Château de Beaucastel
Lokoya
Bodegas Vega-Sicilia
Henri Bonneau
Sine Qua Non




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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/19/2017 5:28:39 PM   
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Small, frugal cellar here. <150 bottles.


...and a similar cellar size here, if one with a different make-up. Listing just the producers for which I have 4+ bottles, since the list gets much longer when the cutoff is 3.

Croma Vera - helped along by a case purchase of rose for summertime...good wines, and run by friends
Domaine Felettig - Burg is generally out of my range, but I found these at a very good price, opened one, and then went back for more
Tercero - a mix of tasting room purchases & bottles from the recent Wine Exchange sale
Tolo Cellars - remnants from a producer we got to know years back...hits and misses here
CT Barrel Project - a few each of the 2012 & 2014 WA bottles
Field Stone - a few ageworthy bottles we're sitting on from when my MiL worked in the tasting room
Antonio Vallana e Figlio - quality QPR nebbiolo for drinking...um, someday
Terrassous - just reloaded on this inexpensive 6-year rivesaltes after liking the first bottle

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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/20/2017 12:25:32 AM   
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Cognitive dissonance sigh....Frugal, yet so tempting.

It is wine, after all.


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RE: Top 10 Producers in your cellar - 6/20/2017 3:49:06 AM   
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Ridge 2,9%
Produttori del Barbaresco 2,6%
Schäfer-Fröhlich 2,6%
Zind-Humbrecht 2,6%
Georg Breuer 2,3%
Jacques-Frédéric Mugnier 2,3%

Quite a revelation to find the top ten list dominated by Riesling-producers. (50%)

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